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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:25 AM Feb 2017

Kobach: I've Told The President How To 'Go After' Voter Fraud

Source: Talking Points Memo



By MATT SHUHAM Published FEBRUARY 13, 2017, 9:52 AM EDT

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach said Monday that he has advised President Donald Trump on how to “go after” voter fraud. White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller cited Kobach as an expert on voter fraud issues in an interview Sunday.

During an appearance on "Fox and Friends" Monday, Kobach said that he had not been in touch with Vice President Mike Pence about his potential commission on voter fraud, but that he had spoken to the President about it. “I’ve actually spoken with the President himself about this problem, and we've talked about various ways you can go after this problem, you can find those people who are criminally voting illegally,” Kobach said. “And, by the way, many of the people in Kansas have been voting in multiple elections we have found. So yes, there is a way to go after it, and I think the federal government will do it.”

Trump claimed in late November that he would have won the popular vote "if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally." The President cited no evidence supporting the claim. Trump has reportedly brought up what he claims is massive illegal voting in several instances since the election.

Kobach in the interview referenced “115 cases of known non-citizens who either got on our voter rolls in Kansas or who attempted to get on our voter rolls.” And, based on a “statistical analysis,” he said, there could be “as many as 18,000 cases of aliens on our voter rolls or people who attempted to get on the voter rolls and are not citizens,” in Kansas.

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Initech

(100,063 posts)
1. The GOP chasing after voter fraud is like the Wiley Coyote Vs. The Road Runner.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:44 AM
Feb 2017

They don't know what they're going to do if they legitimately find someone committing voter fraud, and they use all kinds of crazy quick-fix methods to find people committing voter fraud. And every single time it blows up back in their faces big time.



Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
2. People who abuse statistics make me crazy
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:48 AM
Feb 2017

"115 cases of known non-citizens who either got on our voter rolls in Kansas or who attempted to get on our voter rolls" So how many actually registered to vote?

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
5. This goes back a long way
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:04 PM
Feb 2017

Back when laissez-faire was called liberalism, the 1890s, William Graham Sumner
ranted about the "Forgotten Man". Nixon had is Silent Majority. So these
conservative types always have their view that progressives are wrong,
people are cheating or not voting, and if they can just get their views across
the real people will surface and put conservatives in power.

What a bunch of paranoid arrogant stiffs.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
7. Trying to get on the rolls or even "on the rolls" doesn't meant they were able to vote.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:23 PM
Feb 2017

These people are every bit as manic as 45. I am sure that there are people who pick up motor voter registration forms who do not understand what the requirements are to vote. Many need IDs and pick up the forms when getting their IDs. However, sending in a form and being put on voter rolls is a far cry from being able to vote. Proof of citizenship is a requirement for getting an ID in most places. Correct me if I am wrong.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
9. That POS JOKE from Kansas has been spewing that 18,000 number for YEARS......
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:43 PM
Feb 2017

So what happened on his BIG voter fraud investigation in Kansas? He found three or four people who had moved to Kansas from bordering States and thought they could vote again. These were WHITE people,not the bad hombre's he always CLAIMS are voting illegally in Kansas. Read this about his voter suppression in Kansas. Now he's "teaching" Trump and others how to pull the same voter suppression.

This guy is a FRAUD and an embarrassment to all of us living in Kansas.

TOPEKA

An unknown number of potential Kansas voters were blocked from casting ballots in the November election because a glitch in the state’s voter registration website prevented them from fully registering.

More than 40,000 people cast provisional ballots in November’s general election in the state’s 10 biggest counties. The majority of those ballots were counted, but 13,717 were not for a variety of reasons.

Secretary of State Kris Kobach told the House Elections Committee on Wednesday that the most common reason was that the person was not registered to vote. About 74 percent of the uncounted provisional ballots fell into this category.

http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article127299149.html

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
10. I do not trust his statistics.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:47 PM
Feb 2017

How did he come up with those numbers? And how were they able to determine how many non-citizens attempted to register to vote? Is it possible that they were U.S. citizens who had similar names as non-citizens, so they were counted as "illegal" voters? That's what happens with his Interstate Crosscheck scheme. People in different states with similar (not necessarily identical) names are listed as registered in multiple states and removed from the voter rolls. Very few, if any, have been found to have actually voted in two different states. But that's Kobach's evidence of "voter fraud."

rainy

(6,091 posts)
11. With crosscheck what happens to the voter
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 12:48 PM
Feb 2017

when they try to vote? Are they told they are double registered? Given a provisional ballot? Why don't we hear about the thousands who tried to vote and couldn't? They should be demanding, in large numbers, to know why they are not registered any longer.

Turbineguy

(37,319 posts)
12. !8,000?
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 02:28 PM
Feb 2017

Wow, dude, it's gotta be more than that

(looks in ass) I found 1.2 million. And that's just in Abilene.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
13. Kansas Illustrates How Racism Is Used To Oppress the White Working Class
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 08:13 PM
Feb 2017

Republican policies Kansas have been devastating to the middle class. Yet, Kobach is still seen as one of the up and coming stars of the Republican party given his efforts to combat voting fraud by immigrants...in Kansas. Kansas is one of the less diverse states in the United States with relatively few immigrants, legal or illegal, yet Kobach has made a name for himself by chasing the willo'wisp of voter fraud by non-citizens in, once again, Kansas of all places.

While we are at it, why don't we fight against oil drilling in Hawaii?

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