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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 12:30 PM

Lars77 (3,032 posts)

Breaking: Deadly blast hits Israeli tour bus in Bulgaria

Source: BBC

An explosion has killed at least three people on a bus carrying Israeli tourists in the Bulgarian city of Burgas, Bulgarian officials say.

More than 20 people were also injured when the bus exploded at Burgas airport, by the Black Sea.

Witnesses told Israeli TV that someone boarded the bus and a huge explosion immediately followed.

Reuters news agency says Burgas airport has now been closed and flights are being diverted to Varna.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18892336

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32 replies	Author	Time	Post
Breaking: Deadly blast hits Israeli tour bus in Bulgaria (Original post)	Lars77	Jul 2012	OP
What the hell is wrong with people?	uppityperson	Jul 2012	#1
The prime suspects are Iran and Hisballah.	Fozzledick	Jul 2012	#2
I would have to agree	permatex	Jul 2012	#11
Why not Al Qaeda or Neo Nazis?	KeepItReal	Jul 2012	#15
Iran has been trying repeatedly for months, looks like they finally succeeded.	Fozzledick	Jul 2012	#19
Waiting for facts isn't an option?	KeepItReal	Jul 2012	#27
Al Qaeda, maybe	permatex	Jul 2012	#20
Bulgaria and Iran have good relations and are trading partners.	MADem	Jul 2012	#32
Most suicide bombers are Sunni, not Shiite	FarCenter	Jul 2012	#29
You REALLY want an answer ?	zellie	Jul 2012	#6
Sure, what is an answer?	uppityperson	Jul 2012	#7
sure. got the guts to post your answer? do it, babe.	cali	Jul 2012	#8
I actually dont have an answer....	zellie	Jul 2012	#9
Anyone planning to tour Bulgaria?	aquart	Jul 2012	#3
Bulgarian TV says 7 dead; Netanyahu blames Iran	muriel_volestrangler	Jul 2012	#4
Of course he does. He wants war with Iran sooner rather than later. Scary times	Windy	Jul 2012	#26
Cause of explosion remains uknown.	dipsydoodle	Jul 2012	#5
But we do know Iran was responsible?	Comrade Grumpy	Jul 2012	#16
Its conventional to blame what are regarded as being the usual suspects.	dipsydoodle	Jul 2012	#22
Yes, that's what I figured.	DLnyc	Jul 2012	#18
Maybe it's them shady motorcycle assassins who were killing Iranians.	Poll_Blind	Jul 2012	#10
that was beneath you.	cali	Jul 2012	#12
You're right, Cali. You judge the blood of innocents differently.	Poll_Blind	Jul 2012	#13
uh, no dearie, I don't. what you're doing is classic projection.	cali	Jul 2012	#17
So what are you aghast about then? Or are you just generally aghast of everything?	Poll_Blind	Jul 2012	#23
oh please. n/t	cali	Jul 2012	#24
Come on, your entire commentary in this thread to me has been ambiguous and contentless.	Poll_Blind	Jul 2012	#25
Thoughts and prayers for the victims (n/t)	leftynyc	Jul 2012	#14
Today is the 18th anniversary	Mosby	Jul 2012	#21
And 9/11	dipsydoodle	Jul 2012	#28
Apparently, the bus was full of Israeli teenagers.	oberliner	Jul 2012	#30
horrible	rollin74	Jul 2012	#31

Response to Lars77 (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 12:50 PM

uppityperson (74,809 posts)

1. What the hell is wrong with people?

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 12:53 PM

Fozzledick (2,102 posts)

2. The prime suspects are Iran and Hisballah.

They've made their agenda obscenely clear.

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Response to Fozzledick (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:29 PM

permatex (1,299 posts)

11. I would have to agree

Iran and Hezbollah have made it crystal clear that they want to destroy Israel, so my money would be on one of them, although they are, for all intents and purposes, one and the same.

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Response to Fozzledick (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:38 PM

KeepItReal (5,329 posts)

15. Why not Al Qaeda or Neo Nazis?

You have some facts the rest of us don't?

Just asking for some clarification

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Response to KeepItReal (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:49 PM

Fozzledick (2,102 posts)

19. Iran has been trying repeatedly for months, looks like they finally succeeded.

Last edited Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:53 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

8:24 P.M.: Several internet sites in Bulgaria reports that government authorities ignored warnings and alerts by Israeli and Russian sources over a possible attack

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7:50 P.M.: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: "Iran is responsible for the terror attack in Bulgaria, we will have a strong response against Iranian terror."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/7-reported-killed-in-terror-attack-against-israelis-in-bulgaria-1.452013

Three Israelis were killed and many injured when a suicide bomber blew up an Israeli tourist bus at the airport of the Bulgarian city of Burgas on Wednesday, the 18th anniversary of the Iran-sponsored attack on the AMIA Jewish center in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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Israel has been concerned Hezbollah would try to attack Israelis overseas in in connection with the fourth anniversary of the assassination of Hezbollah military commander Imad Mughniyeh, attributed to the Mossad.

Israel had asked Bulgaria, for example, to increase its security over Israeli tour groups in the capital city of Sofia. According to Sofia News Agency, a Hezbollah plot was earlier uncovered by local security agencies, which warned Israel.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=277989

The flight from Tel Aviv had just come in Wednesday and a large group of Israeli tourists had been picked up by three buses at Burgas airport when one of them exploded and caught fire. At least six Israelis tourists and the Bulgarian tour guide were killed on the spot and 27 injured, four critically. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak accused Iran of the attack on the Israeli tourist bus and pledged a strong response. Israeli security would reach the perpetrators, they said.

The blast is suspected to be part of the joint Iranian-Hizballah terror campaign in the past year against Israeli targets that were thwarted in various other countries, including Thailand and Kenya, Georgia, India and Azerbaijan.

http://www.debka.com/article/22190/Seven-Israelis-killed-dozens-injured-in-bus-explosion-in-Bulgaria

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Response to Fozzledick (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:10 PM

KeepItReal (5,329 posts)

27. Waiting for facts isn't an option?

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I'll hold for some on-site investigative results and not some politician's opinions and saber rattling.

State-sponsored terror can be proven. If it is Iran, I'm sure the evidence will be produced.

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Response to KeepItReal (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:49 PM

permatex (1,299 posts)

20. Al Qaeda, maybe

Neo-Nazis, could be, who knows at this point.

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Response to KeepItReal (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 05:54 PM

MADem (87,233 posts)

32. Bulgaria and Iran have good relations and are trading partners.

This is not to say the GoB had any involvement in this matter; but it would not be unusual for Iranians to be present in Bulgaria, owing to diplomatic and trade relationships. They wouldn't necessarily stick out much if at all.

Iran might be looking for payback owing to Israel's recent involvements in Iran which had a goal to throw monkey wrenches into Iran's nuclear ambitions.

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Response to Fozzledick (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:24 PM

FarCenter (13,533 posts)

29. Most suicide bombers are Sunni, not Shiite

Last edited Wed Jul 18, 2012, 03:43 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Beiruit Marine Barracks is a notable exception, but that was an attack on a military target.

ON EDIT: This may not be a suicide bomb attack, and the fact that someone got on just before the explosion may be coincidental.

Israel: Iran behind bus bomb attack that killed seven tourists in Bulgaria

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/18/israel-iran-bomb-tourists-bulgaria

The bomb, placed in the trunk, was detonated not far from Burgas airport, said Dimitar Nikolov, the city's mayor. At least 40 people were on board when it exploded.
...

Initial reports claimed the explosion was caused by a suicide bomber, after eyewitnesses reported seeing a person board the bus before it blew up.
...

The Bulgarian interior minister, Tsvetan Tsvetanov, was quoted on national radio BNR as saying the police were investigating two possible causes of the blast: that an explosive device was put in the bus before the tourists boarded or that the explosives were in the tourists' luggage.

However, the attribution to the Iranians is being driven mostly by the fact that it is the anniversary of the attack on the Argentinian Jewish center. Israel has many enemies, and lots of them can read calendars.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:12 PM

zellie (437 posts)

6. You REALLY want an answer ?

not sure it would go over to big.

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:13 PM

uppityperson (74,809 posts)

7. Sure, what is an answer?

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:15 PM

cali (81,172 posts)

8. sure. got the guts to post your answer? do it, babe.

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:22 PM

zellie (437 posts)

9. I actually dont have an answer....

just sayin this is a controversial topic.

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Response to Lars77 (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:04 PM

aquart (67,682 posts)

3. Anyone planning to tour Bulgaria?

Doesn't seem to be a good idea.

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:05 PM

muriel_volestrangler (65,827 posts)

4. Bulgarian TV says 7 dead; Netanyahu blames Iran

7:50 P.M.: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: "Iran is responsible for the terror attack in Bulgaria, we will have a strong response against Iranian terror."
...
6:56 P.M.: According to Bulgarian news, 18 Israelis have been evacuated to a local hospital. Hospital sources say they expect more to arrive.
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6:54 P.M.: Death count reaches seven, according to Bulgarian television.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/7-reported-killed-in-terror-attack-against-israelis-in-bulgaria-1.452013

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:07 PM

Windy (5,901 posts)

26. Of course he does. He wants war with Iran sooner rather than later. Scary times

Especially with Cheney in Washington yesterday.

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:06 PM

dipsydoodle (33,146 posts)

5. Cause of explosion remains uknown.

Last edited Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:10 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

"We don't know if it was a terror attack," said Paul Hirschson, an Israeli foreign ministry spokesman. "We do know it was an explosion." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/18/bulgaria-bus-explosion-three-dead

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:46 PM

Comrade Grumpy (3,729 posts)

16. But we do know Iran was responsible?

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:57 PM

dipsydoodle (33,146 posts)

22. Its conventional to blame what are regarded as being the usual suspects.

Some like to maintain that convention.

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:49 PM

DLnyc (1,982 posts)

18. Yes, that's what I figured.

It doesn't make too much sense that it would be known so quickly what happened and who, if anyone, is responsible.

But many people don't have time for information and evidence.

So much war, so little time.

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:26 PM

Poll_Blind (23,476 posts)

10. Maybe it's them shady motorcycle assassins who were killing Iranians.

PB

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:29 PM

cali (81,172 posts)

12. that was beneath you.

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and yeah, I know you don't care what I think.

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Response to cali (Reply #12)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:32 PM

Poll_Blind (23,476 posts)

13. You're right, Cali. You judge the blood of innocents differently.

And that's all on you, Madam.

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:48 PM

cali (81,172 posts)

17. uh, no dearie, I don't. what you're doing is classic projection.

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something you sadly engage in far too often.

And that is factual.

Edited to add just for you, dear:

I have never made a snarky comment such as yours in this thread about any Palestinian or Iranian being killed. Never.

YOU with all your self-righteous cant, have- and many a time.

I think it's disgusting.

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:00 PM

Poll_Blind (23,476 posts)

23. So what are you aghast about then? Or are you just generally aghast of everything?

Israeli tour bus appears to be target of terror act, Iran is the natural suspect. I post a quip reminding everyone that Iran has been a target of a number of assassinations and terror activities of which Israel is the natural suspect- and all of a sudden you deem that that comment somehow crosses the line of decency?

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #23)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:01 PM

cali (81,172 posts)

24. oh please. n/t

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Response to cali (Reply #24)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:02 PM

Poll_Blind (23,476 posts)

25. Come on, your entire commentary in this thread to me has been ambiguous and contentless.

Chose a position, explain your position or shoo!

PB

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:36 PM

leftynyc (10,487 posts)

14. Thoughts and prayers for the victims (n/t)

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:55 PM

Mosby (3,029 posts)

21. Today is the 18th anniversary

of the Iran-sponsored bombing of the Jewish center in Argentina.

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:13 PM

dipsydoodle (33,146 posts)

28. And 9/11

was the anniversary of the CIA inspired coup in Chile 1973.

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:58 PM

oberliner (22,354 posts)

30. Apparently, the bus was full of Israeli teenagers.

Witness Gal Malka told Israel's Channel 2 TV that she saw someone board the bus before it exploded. She said the bus was full of Israeli teenagers.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0718/Bus-full-of-Israeli-youth-explodes-in-Bulgaria-killing-at-least-three

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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 03:16 PM

rollin74 (701 posts)

31. horrible

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