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HAB911

(8,867 posts)
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 09:40 AM Jan 2017

Refugees Detained at U.S. Airports, Prompting Legal Challenges to Trumps Immigration Order

Source: New York Times

President Trump’s executive order closing the nation’s borders to refugees was put into immediate effect Friday night. Refugees who were in the air on the way to the United States when the order was signed were stopped and detained at airports.

The detentions prompted legal challenges as lawyers representing two Iraqi refugees held at Kennedy Airport filed a writ of habeas corpus early Saturday in the Eastern District of New York seeking to have their clients released. At the same time, they filed a motion for class certification, in an effort to represent all refugees and immigrants who they said were being unlawfully detained at ports of entry.

Mr. Trump’s order, which suspends entry of all refugees to the United States for 120 days, created a legal limbo for individuals on the way to the United States and panic for families who were awaiting their arrival.

Mr. Trump’s order also stops the admission of refugees from Syria indefinitely, and it bars entry into the United States for 90 days from seven predominantly Muslim countries linked to concerns about terrorism. Those countries are Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/us/refugees-detained-at-us-airports-prompting-legal-challenges-to-trumps-immigration-order.html?emc=edit_na_20170128&nl=breaking-news&nlid=50533710&ref=cta

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Refugees Detained at U.S. Airports, Prompting Legal Challenges to Trumps Immigration Order (Original Post) HAB911 Jan 2017 OP
they left out Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Qatar Ford_Prefect Jan 2017 #1
They left out all the countries where Trump has business interests underpants Jan 2017 #5
Such a steaming pile of BS. lark Jan 2017 #6
What no Afghanistan? Maybe they didn't know how to spell it? KewlKat Jan 2017 #20
I don't believe I ever experienced pure hate until this week. sinkingfeeling Jan 2017 #2
+1,000,000 KewlKat Jan 2017 #21
Hate and fear wins the day.. mountain grammy Jan 2017 #3
He just put our troops in Iraq into extreme danger. Not to mention Americans working all over the appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #4
As a note - this new State Department needs to put out Warnings and Advisories BumRushDaShow Jan 2017 #8
He essentially just decaptitated the State Department... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #15
They have advisories/warnings up until 1/25 BumRushDaShow Jan 2017 #19
Disgusting... riversedge Jan 2017 #7
This is a horrific nightmare and the NYT article is chilling. Raine1967 Jan 2017 #9
I sure thought it was going to take a bit longer to get us to this point. LisaL Jan 2017 #10
I find myself in Shock -- again. Raine1967 Jan 2017 #11
Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do. EL34x4 Jan 2017 #28
Donald Trump anti-refugee order: 'green-card holders included in ban' live Homeland Security appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #12
Lawyers are telling Muslims not to leave the country. If they do, they can't return, even if they appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #13
Prudent advice. EL34x4 Jan 2017 #14
This makes me sick to my stomach... llmart Jan 2017 #16
I have a grand daughter that is teaching in Europe and one that is career military appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #18
I know... llmart Jan 2017 #22
When even Dick Cheney, king of waterboarding, is against this, you know it is bad enough appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #25
Also, 6 refugees were stopped from boarding a flight from Cairo to JFK. pangaia Jan 2017 #17
Yeah, but Clinton and Trump are 100% the same, amirite?? Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #23
Plus infinity ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #24
What a heartless SOB LisaM Jan 2017 #26
Experts Warn President Trumps Refugee Ban Could Backfire: ISIS 'Rubbing Their Hands With Glee' OKIsItJustMe Jan 2017 #27

lark

(23,061 posts)
6. Such a steaming pile of BS.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:07 AM
Jan 2017

He exempted countries where he does business, welcome to trumpland and so very sad to see America being destroyed bit by bit on a daily basis. Hope the appeal wins!

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
20. What no Afghanistan? Maybe they didn't know how to spell it?
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:35 PM
Jan 2017

Are there any drumpf businesses in Afghanistan? Oh right, who would know since he WON'T RELEASE HIS TAXES.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
21. +1,000,000
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:36 PM
Jan 2017

Sadly I feel the same way. We have to channel the hate in a positive way to get the effer out!

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
4. He just put our troops in Iraq into extreme danger. Not to mention Americans working all over the
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:05 AM
Jan 2017

world. I have a granddaughter working in Europe and that ass just put her in danger of retribution.

BumRushDaShow

(128,464 posts)
8. As a note - this new State Department needs to put out Warnings and Advisories
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:33 AM
Jan 2017

due to this. But I doubt the appointee-in-waiting or his master gives a shit (I expect the career folks are fuming).

BumRushDaShow

(128,464 posts)
19. They have advisories/warnings up until 1/25
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:32 PM
Jan 2017

But theoretically, appointees are expected to submit resignations so what happened there (and pretty much everywhere else in the federal government) is par for the course.

The non-appointees usually have SOPs to follow to initiate stuff like this. Working for the government myself, I know that our agency has folks all around the world and they definitely need the heads-up.

But then again, we have experienced a coup d'etat so the response in the various agencies will probably be variable.

riversedge

(70,084 posts)
7. Disgusting...
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jan 2017












Refugees Detained at U.S. Airports, Prompting Legal Challenges to Trump’s Immigration Order


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/opinion/president-trumps-war-on-women-begins.html

By NICHOLAS KULISH and MANNY FERNANDEZJAN. 28, 2017


Photo
The wife of an Iraqi citizen who was detained at Kennedy Airport. She was at her sister’s home in Houston on Saturday. Credit Michael Stravato for The New York Times







President Trump’s executive order closing the nation’s borders to refugees was put into immediate effect Friday night. Refugees who were in the air on the way to the United States when the order was signed were stopped and detained at airports.

...............................................

It was unclear how many refugees and immigrants were being held nationwide in the aftermath of the executive order. The complaints were filed by a prominent group including the American Civil Liberties Union, the International Refugee Assistance Project at the Urban Justice Center, the National Immigration Law Center, Yale Law School’s Jerome N. Frank Legal Services Organization and the firm Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton.

The lawyers said that one of the Iraqis detained at Kennedy Airport, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, had worked on behalf of the U.S. government in Iraq for 10 years. The other, Haider Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshawi, was coming to the United States to join his wife, who had worked for a U.S. contractor, and young son, the lawyers said. They said both men were detained at the airport Friday night after arriving on separate flights...............

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
9. This is a horrific nightmare and the NYT article is chilling.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:48 AM
Jan 2017

My god -- in less than a week he took us to this very dark place.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
10. I sure thought it was going to take a bit longer to get us to this point.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:52 AM
Jan 2017

So Trump exceeded my expectations.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
28. Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 05:12 PM
Jan 2017

Foreign travelers and green card holders have had nearly three months to prepare for this.

Did people think he was kidding?

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
12. Donald Trump anti-refugee order: 'green-card holders included in ban' live Homeland Security
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 11:49 AM
Jan 2017

Donald Trump anti-refugee order: 'green-card holders included in ban' – live
Homeland Security reportedly confirms permanent residents will be included in temporary ban amid widespread condemnation
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/jan/28/world-digests-donald-trumps-order-to-ban-refugees-from-muslim-countries

So, if you are Muslim, work in this country and were traveling when he signed the damn order, you cannot return home.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
13. Lawyers are telling Muslims not to leave the country. If they do, they can't return, even if they
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jan 2017

live here.

llmart

(15,532 posts)
16. This makes me sick to my stomach...
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:33 PM
Jan 2017

Universities all over this country have permanent residents as faculty members.

This is not going to go well.

However, there are so many ignorant people in this country that they have no clue how these terrible policies affect our country.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
18. I have a grand daughter that is teaching in Europe and one that is career military
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jan 2017

and has been to both Iraq and Afghanistan numerous times. This ban scares me to the souls of my feet. He is putting so many lives and so many livlihoods in danger there is nothing cute or safe about it.

llmart

(15,532 posts)
22. I know...
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:45 PM
Jan 2017

and this is why we've got to stop focusing on the stupid stuff he does to distract us such as his tweeting, etc. and comics making fun of him, and be diligent about fighting and resisting and NEVER LETTING UP until this national nightmare is over.

I know some of these faculty members personally and I'm worried that if they try to go home over a semester break to visit family, do research, etc. what happens then if they can't get back into the country? I highly doubt trump and his ignorant supporters even understand what this means and how it affects all walks of life. If you could see some of the resumes of our non-citizen faculty members and the research they have been involved in or the years of experience they have, you'd see how honored we should be to even have them in our country. But Americans are so arrogant in thinking that the US is superior in all things. Well, we're not.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
25. When even Dick Cheney, king of waterboarding, is against this, you know it is bad enough
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:59 PM
Jan 2017

to destroy the country.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. Yeah, but Clinton and Trump are 100% the same, amirite??
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:49 PM
Jan 2017

I want just one fucking duer who said that in the past year to apologize... You own this shit

OKIsItJustMe

(19,937 posts)
27. Experts Warn President Trumps Refugee Ban Could Backfire: ISIS 'Rubbing Their Hands With Glee'
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 04:01 PM
Jan 2017
http://time.com/4651729/president-trump-refugee-suspension-backfire/
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Experts Warn President Trump’s Refugee Ban Could Backfire: ISIS 'Rubbing Their Hands With Glee'[/font]

[font size=3]President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Friday that temporarily bans new U.S. visas for citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries, in an act the administration says is designed to prevent “terrorist attacks by foreign nationals.”

Yet counterterrorism experts say that the policy could backfire by providing more fodder for propaganda and recruiting by jihadist groups that aim to demonize the United States.

In interviews, analysts and former counterterrorism officials said the proposed immigration restrictions would reinforce the jihadists’ binary worldview in which a monolithic West conspires to oppress Muslims across the planet. According to the executive order, the new president’s policy will suspend new visas for people from seven nations: Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. The executive order targets citizens of those countries almost indiscriminately, a policy that experts say fuels a narrative of American victimization of Muslims, in which jihadist groups market themselves as the resistance to that domination.

“There is no doubt in my mind that, wherever they are, propagandists for groups of the likes of the Islamic State will be looking at what’s happening and rubbing their hands with glee. Because this is exactly the kind of world they want to inhabit. It’s a world that reifies their ideology,” says Charlie Winter, a senior research fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation and Political Violence in London.

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