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Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:58 AM

Gillespie says Romney ‘retired retroactively’ from Bain Capital

Source: The Hill

Democrats have raised questions about when exactly Romney left Bain . Romney has said he left in 1999 to oversee preparations for the Salt Lake City Olympics, but SEC documents show him listed as Bain’s CEO beyond that time.

Gillespie on Sunday sought to clarify the matter, saying that Romney initially thought he would be leaving Bain on a temporary basis, but the challenges of the Olympics led him to “retire retroactively.”

"There may have been a thought at the time that it could be part time, but it was not part time," Gillespie said.

"He took a left of absence and in fact he ended up not going back at all, and retired retroactively to 1999 as a result," he added. He left a life he loved to go to Salt Lake City and help a country he loves more, and somehow Chicago… is trying to make it something sinister." "

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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/237943-gillespie-says-romney-retired-retroactively-from-bain-capital



Just when you think the GOP can't get any more creative in their excuses for Romney...

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Reply Gillespie says Romney ‘retired retroactively’ from Bain Capital (Original post)
highplainsdem Jul 2012 OP
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:00 AM

1. NICE TRY! (HIGH FIVE)

Retroactive. Wow, that's funny as shit!

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Response to madashelltoo (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:04 AM

8. Reminds me of "self-deportation" somehow

lol

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #8)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:04 PM

57. And we all trust Ed, the stellar Enron lobbyist, Abramoff pal, and Bush advisor

Senior Mitt Romney campaign adviser Ed Gillespie = Counselor to President Bush, Enron lobbyist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125156161

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Response to madashelltoo (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:10 PM

59. Kind of like... "double secret probation".

Bwahhhh!!!

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Response to madashelltoo (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 12:07 AM

95. It connects, because every American has retired retroactively at least once in their lives.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:01 AM

2. But he got paid. nt

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:01 AM

3. Well, that settles it.

ROFL.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:02 AM

4. Romney invented Time Travel!

This is so ridiculous.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:03 AM

6. 'retired retroactively’ - LOL!!

That is about the most rediculous thing I have ever heard.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 03:10 PM

71. Hear more.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/business/2007/08/29/ddn083007delphi2.html

As part of a settlement, workers were given retroactive retirement or pay. They weren't retired even after they had been, it seems and they turned out to have been working the time that they were laid off. Completely ridiculous. Happens fairly often. One thing that can't happen is that your retroactive retirement makes you eligible for Social Security or Federal services--private after-the-fact arrangements don't bind the Federal government.

Where I served for a while the CEO was put on forced administrative leave for a year and a half because he deceived the board and misrepresented the organization's finances. When his contract was to be renewed the answer was a firm "no". Retroactively and as part of a settlement, somewhat over a year after his contract wasn't renewed he was deemed to have been put on voluntary leave at his request because his wife was ill and when his contract ended at his request he elected not to renew it. Instead, he simply retired with full benefits when his 30 years were up. That's the story on the organization's books and in its records, and that's the official story if anybody ever asks.

In the case of the first court settlement, it was fairly hostile. In the second, it didn't need to be hostile--what he got was, with the exception of one additional piece of 5-year-old office equipment costing less than $100 when new, exactly what he had been offered the day he was put on leave. Had he accepted no court approval would have been needed. There's reality on the ground and then there's legal fiction. Crucially, redefining his status in this case had absolutely no effect: In both scenarios, he never stepped foot on the property, and while he was still CEO according to his contract all his responsibilities and duties had been delegated to an acting CEO that left the day the new CEO's contract entered into force. Which was the day after this guy's contract expired.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:54 PM

75. self deporting ...

It takes a LOT of work keeping this twit propped up ...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:03 AM

7. Yeah, yeah, yeah

No farcking way, Ed.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:08 AM

9. So we can all retire retroactively now???

Great! Think of the pension money's that are due to retroactive retirees!!

I don't think this spin will benefit Rmoney or Gillespie much ... just a Reagan Retroactive Retread Rmoney Spinmeister.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:09 AM

10. So he retired before he wasn't retired? That's awesome.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:10 AM

11. Jesus people, he was just loving his country

and now you want to make that a crime too?

LOL, just fucking lol with a head slap

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:15 AM

12. Mr. G says that rMoney lied to the Olympics Cmte. He broke his contract and his solemn word.

If he has no problem scamming the Olympics Cmte, he has no problems scamming the rest of us.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:21 AM

13. Then in a manner of good faith he returned all that money too!

If anyone believes any of this I have a beautiful bridge in London for sale. Will consider any offer.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:26 AM

14. Were you working there or weren't you?


Easy question, Mitt. This "I drew a paycheck but retroactively quit," doesn't answer the question.

Besides, are you saying this took 4 years for you to decide?

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:12 PM

45. I too would like to know

What was Romney’s position at Bain? Did he set-up the policies and procedures? The business plan that cut jobs etc or not? If he did then he is still in charge. If people are following your orders even if you are not there to oversee directly you are still in charge, you have just delegated.
Does he still own the company? If it was in his a "blind trust" when he became governor then it was not a "blind trust". Who took control in 1999/2002? What happened before 1999? Did he do hostile take overs before 1999? If so he is Gordon Gecko in real life and he IS the problem not the cure.
We need to answer these questions. He was the sole owner and managed the company. Owned all stock and created the board. How can he not take responsibility? What kind of manager/owner lets people do huge deals without some knowledge.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:36 AM

15. Should have used disappearing ink on those documents then.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:40 AM

16. OKAY! This is getting to be much fun. Republicans come up with such good excuses for their

behavior. "Retired Retroactively" has got to be one that will survive the test of time. Does that mean he also gave the money back?

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:54 AM

38. That's even better than "it depends on what the definition of is, is..."

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:23 PM

87. WORST GOP Talking Point

You have got to read this hilarious diary and comments on DailyKos. Funny stuff!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/15/1110158/-The-Next-Great-Meme-Retroactive-Mitt

Enjoy!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:42 AM

17. Maybe we should retire Mitt proactively from the Presidency, then Ed. How is that?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:42 AM

18. Im thinking back to 2004 with Kerry and even 2008 with Obama and can say with no doubts

that if this kind of bullshit would have hit the media circuit Kerry and Obama would hve been laughed out of contention..Do Republicans really think they can sell this bullshit..Wolf Blitzer is probably rehearsing the script now...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:43 AM

19. Tweets regarding this sham

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southpaw ‏@nycsouthpaw
Conquered nation retroactively consents to invasion, Romney administration announces


southpaw ‏@nycsouthpaw
BREAKING: Ed Gillespie retroactively canceling these morning show interviews. Please stop using them in your tweets.


southpaw ‏@nycsouthpaw
RT @BenLaBolt: If you "retire retroactively" do you return your income and profits from that period?

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Response to Dalai_1 (Reply #19)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:52 PM

94. Great tweets!!

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #94)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:57 AM

98. many on twitter are now using

# retroactively......I would imagine it will be used commonly
in our vocabulary from now on as sarcasm.Of course, those who
are not into politics will think I have lost my mind when I use it
that way!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:52 AM

20. I've heard more cognitive reasoning

from four-year-olds with cookie crumbs on their lips.




rocktivity

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:55 AM

21. I used to work with my hands ...


Is this what happens when someone who doesn't have marketable job skills. It seems Mr Gillespie doesn't have a craft and it seems like he really does not care what others think about him or his own values. He is just another hack, like most of the Mittens Mob.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:56 AM

22. There are different rules for the super rich.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:59 AM

23. I'm temped to nominate Gillespie for a DUzy

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:02 AM

24. So Romney was for retirement from Bain

before he was against it? No wait, Romney was against working for Bain before he was for it?

Ok I think I've got it - "Mitt Romney was against not retiring from Bain before he was for it."


Flip Flopney flips again....

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Response to demwing (Reply #24)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:56 AM

39. I guess it really depends on what your definition of retirement is....

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:15 AM

25. So I can leave my job, be paid for 3 years, THEN 'retire retroactively?'

Sounds great. When do I start?

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Response to Ready4Change (Reply #25)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:07 PM

43. That's the new Romney jobs plan

You know they want to stay focused on job creation. Retroactive retirement is the new Works Progress Administration for the neoliberal order.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:15 AM

26. You knew some disjointed logical explanation was coming.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #26)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:44 PM

63. and it STILL took them 4 days to come up with it...they're in trouble over there, I think lol

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Response to Volaris (Reply #63)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:55 PM

64. Retro is back in fashion.

Who knew?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #64)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:57 PM

76. so I hear. But I think come January, we will thinking of more, shall we say...

FORWARD-looking fashion styles?

Do we have a rim-shot smiley, or is that the closest thing?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:22 AM

27. That Might Make Some Sense

If it would have happened 4 months after the fact, but 4 years later -- give me a break. It sounds like a focus group tested talking point being fed to Gillespie by Frank Luntz.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #27)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:09 PM

44. No focus group could come up with something as nonsensical as "retroactive retirement"

Frank Luntz is cringing right now, because he knows exactly how such a laughable notion will play with ordinary voters.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:24 AM

28. Honestly, this is probably the most plausible explanation I've heard - except for that money detail

pesky isn't it? Something like $400k that he conveniently never returned...

And the comments about having to be in MA for business trips and such.

But yeah, this is probably the best excuse they could come up.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:26 AM

29. Slick Willard

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:32 AM

30. Now they're insulting Chicago?

What delightful lunacy!

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Response to randome (Reply #30)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 06:30 PM

82. Well they can't call Obama Osama anymore, because Obama killed him.

All the other shit doesn't work... birthers are now labeled as lunatics by the majority of the country... so going back to Obama's roots in Chicago is their next tactic. But it's ridiculous because most of the US doesn't have anything against Chicago. We love Chicago, here in the Midwest. The thugs have run out of ways to paint Obama with a broad brush, so they're trying anything left over to see if the can find something that sticks. But it won't, because Obama and his team are to damned smart and have already prepared methods of dealing with any conceivable attack. Look at the beginning of rMoney's campaign earlier this year... he was harping about gas prices. What happened to gas prices? The dropped like a rock when they should have gone up during the summer travel period. Obama's got this.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #82)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:49 AM

104. "We love Chicago, here in the Midwest."

We love you, too.

You're right. There is a bizarre solidarity in the Midwest. Especially between WI and Chicago. Despite our decades old pokin' at each other, you screw with WI and you've got a fight with Chicago. That's our damned backyard. Can't say the same for Indiana. No love there.

Until football season. Then Wisconsin is on their own. Fuck the Packers.

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Response to randome (Reply #30)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:39 AM

103. Uh...yep, that's what they're doin'.

Chicago is the new capitol, dontcha know. I wish them luck with this fight. That's my home city and there are a lot of people there with big mouths that will now find new and improved reasons to take this asshole down. I know I've found a new level of irate after reading this.

Hey, Romney, Gillespie and any other tool that thinks picking on one of the largest cities in this nation, one of the cities that helped BUILD this fucking nation is a good idea...fuck you. Your phony bullshit and lack of a soul would get you kicked to the curb in a minute. And, they'll do it with a grin and a pat on the back.

Love or hate Mayor Emmanuel, I bet he's got that kicked back Chicago grin on his face as we speak.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:34 AM

31. Same goes to his filing taxes in Utah and when he got into trouble running for gov of Massachusetts

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He retroactive filed taxes in Massachusetts in order to "prove" he was a resident of Massachusetts. "I was a resident of Utah before I was a resident of Massachusetts". Don't hold him responsible for anything I don't want to accept. He will sign bills and declare it was only because they sent them to me, I could not help it. Now he can retroactive return to the tax payers the pensions we had to pay for him, stand up Mitt and right the wrongs you have done.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:47 AM

32. Wow! Ed "The Chinless Wonder" Gillespie has really hit a new low here . . .

Fucking unbelievable. He gets paid to go on TV and say shit like this?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:48 AM

33. "Retired Retroactively" ... is that like a Virgin Birther Trial Balloon ?

Yeah, Rmoney is a Born-Again Venture Capitalist Politician trying

to erase his record!

Don't read his lips, read his resume!

The PREPOSTEROUS ARROGANCE of these GOP Talking Heads is OUTRAGEOUS!

Gillespie should retire - RETROACTIVELY!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:51 AM

34. Hah! Did he also collect a pension retroactively?

Methinks yes.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:52 AM

35. Sweet. I'm gonna contact the employer I left in 2003 and see if I can use that.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:52 AM

36. To Mittens and his surrogates

stop the lying please. Once you lie to cover up another lie you lose.

Come forth with your tax returns, at least 12 years like your daddy, and let the American people judge you. Shit you want to represent us than give us, the American people a reason why we should vote for you, although I personally know why the GOP base is voting for you because these "Christians" HATE Pres O so much.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:53 AM

37. What a joke! From Twitter: "Mitt to Bain: I wish I knew how to quit you."

@CharlesMBlow
Retired retroactively? This has to be a joke, right? Right?! Mitt to Bain: "I wish I knew how to quit you."
https://twitter.com/charlesmblow/status/224529690075996160

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:02 PM

40. He left a life he loved



to help starving people?

to dress like Mother Teresa?

to FIND himself?

or

to make a ton of money.... again....?

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #40)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:15 PM

46. Such noble sacrifice on Romney's part

to "leave" the life and wife he loved so he could save America and save the olympics.



Reading over on KOS, it looks like a still untouched but potentially rich vein of more lies and bullshit is directly connected to Romney's "sacrifice" and "service" to America in "saving" the olympics. Who wants to bet that the sacrifice and service ends up being something more like underhanded and self-serving deals? I've got my fingers crossed.

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Response to Jessy169 (Reply #46)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 05:12 PM

79. Wow!

So he really did serve his country without going to Vietnam

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:04 PM

41. The Republican base voters

can now stop denying that Romney told lies about when he left Bain, and switch to explaining to all of us libtards that Romney retired retroactively. That makes complete sense -- to a right-wing loonie -- but none whatsoever to me.

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Response to Jessy169 (Reply #41)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:03 AM

100. +1

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:05 PM

42. A rip in the space/time continuem

You see Mitt met this guy with a Delorean.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:28 PM

47. With his magic IOKIYAR Time Machine! Or did Romney have help from Torchwood? n/t

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:28 PM

48. Was that a Republican spinmeister or a stand up comic talking?

That one ranks up there with Ron Ziegler's declaration that previous White House statements concerning Watergate were "inoperative."

You mean he ran Bain, which made money running businesses into the ground, until 2003 and then retired retroactively to 1999? Is that how he decides his stands on issues, too? He supported a woman's right to choose while running for governor of Massachusetts, and then became pro-life retroactively to to 1980? He supported an individual mandate in healthcare while governor, but then after Congress passed the ACA without a single GOP vote, he opposed it retroactively to 1993? And he supports being kind to animals retroactively to the moment he strapped Shamus onto the roof of his car?

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #48)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:39 PM

52. Big Words!

To anyone foolish enough to be a Teabagger, using big words like "retroactively" is all you need to make it legit.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #48)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:56 PM

65. Even if the general public buys this bullshit (which they wont--not by a long shot)

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it STILL makes him responsible for all those jobs that got outsourced during that period. Which is what he was trying to avoid to begin with. So not ONLY is he trying to be a duplicitous bastard of the first order, he just proved that he's stunningly BAD AT IT.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #65)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 02:15 PM

67. You've noticed what I've noticed about Mitt

For as much as he tells stretchers, he's not very good at it. Maybe he'll bring back Ari Fleischer as White House press secretary.

Don't misunderestimate the American public. Horsepucky! was the overwhelming reaction to Zeigler's famous "all previous statements are inoperative" declaration. If Clinton's "I did not have sex with that woman" was met with a wide outpouring of yawns it was because few cared if he did or didn't, not because anyone believed him when he said he didn't. And who really thought the Frat Boy's mission in Iraq had been accomplished?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:36 PM

49. Good drunk driving defense

"but officer I'm sober retroactively."

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:36 PM

50. I wish DU would stop quoting headlines from the Onion as if they are real!

Oh, wait. No. ... Really?

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Response to MsPithy (Reply #50)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:51 AM

105. !

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:39 PM

51. LMAO

So, after leaving Bain leaderless for three years, and after the 2002 Olympics finished in February, Rmoney discovered that "the challenges of the Olympics led him to 'retire retroactively.' ?"

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:43 PM

53. OMG! Mittens has a Time Machine!

Let's use it to go back to 2000 so we can unsteal the election.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:47 PM

54. Wow. Ed Gillespie really drew the short straw, didn't he....nt

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #54)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:06 PM

58. As a former Enron lobbyist and Jack Abramoff buddy, he either has the highest credibility

or was picked as the best liar

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #58)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:03 AM

101. LOL

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 12:49 PM

55. So, He Is A Robot. He Was Sent Back in Time to Retire from Bain.

And to kill Sarah Connor.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #55)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:42 PM

62. ROTFLMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:04 PM

56. What the fu*%

This makes no sense at all. Retire retroactively ... Really?

So he "works" for a few years after he supposedly retired (signatures prove it) then when he gets caught in a lie, his rescuers come up with this crap.

My kids have better excuses and they are 7 years old.

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Response to bpositive (Reply #56)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:34 PM

74. Too funny - bested by a 7 year old. You know they're in trouble. nt

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:21 PM

60. Do you think Republican voters now wish to deselect him retroactively? (nt)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:25 PM

61. Hey, if Bobby Ewing can survive 'retroactively'

I don't see why Mitt can't rewrite history too, if it suits him.




There's a little similarity ...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 02:15 PM

66. Wonder if the GOP can get another nominee.. retroactively.

How did they end up with the turd in the punchbowl? No one really liked him...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 02:28 PM

68. Yes, he did, or 'tried to,' anyway!

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Cited and discussed here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=166786

I said: He's using 'legal wiggle words' to assert 'truthfully' that he had 'retired from Bain in 1999!'
I'm a lawyer so I'm not mocking legal language, just his 'expectation' that his fancy footwork will go over well with the 'public.'

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 02:30 PM

69. Behold the Power ...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 02:34 PM

70. This election is between "Retroactively" and "Forward." (Please retweet link below!)

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 03:36 PM

72. You don't get a Mulligan with this, Mitt

wtf

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 03:55 PM

73. Ed Gillespie

Don't forget you're talking about Enron Ed Gillespie. Who in their right mind would believe anything he says.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:57 PM

77. I wonder how that works?

Maybe I could use that to "retroactively retire" from the Army.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 05:02 PM

78. Which country would that be????

"He left a life he loved to go to Salt Lake City and help a country he loves more, and somehow Chicago… is trying to make it something sinister".

These assholes are pathetic. How much time did it take for Rmoney to write checks for the Olympics anyway? More tax write offs is ALL he was looking for.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 06:07 PM

80. Obviously this is nonsense

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But can you imagine the love that many CEOs of big corporations have for an idea like this? Think of all the CEOs out there who have made absurd amounts of money and have run their companies into the ground or done all kinds of illegal garbage who would love to be able to say "Oh wait, that's no longer my responsibility...I retroactively retired before it happened." Think Ken Lay would have liked this? How about Carly after her disastrous HP run?

This is the kind of business wrangling horseshit I can actually see the wealthy trying to get through the SEC. Most of these jerks need as many Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free cards as they can get. I hope there is a rule in place that says "if you sign documents as a board member, CEO, CFO, COO, or any other company-leading position or you continue to get paid in one of these positions, you assume all responsibility for that position. No exceptions."

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 06:20 PM

81. Isn't the right phrase "back dating"? n/t

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Response to kiranon (Reply #81)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:11 AM

107. "Retroactive" and "backdating" are distinct concepts

Retroactive is assigning a date in the past to coincide with the actual event.
Backdating is assigning a date in the past prior to the actual event.

You might be saying that romney's problem is not that he retired retroactively but rather he backdated his retirement. I'd agree with that. I have no problem with the concept of "retroactive" and so I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with the concept of "retroactive retirement".

It could be useful to describe romney's retirement as "backdated" instead of "retroactive" but as this thread illustrates there's more than enough misunderstanding of "retroactive" (time machines!?) so that it probably isn't necessary.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 07:02 PM

83. That does not relieve Romney from the appearance of a conflict of interest

and corruption. He should know that.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 07:21 PM

84. Did he actually file any "leave of absence" paperwork (that wasn't also retroactive)?

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Or did he just stop showing up to work but still putting his name on things sometimes.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:06 PM

85. K&R for the sheer hilarity. Ok - I invested in apple retroactively.

Do I get to choose when?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:20 PM

86. Hey, can everyone who voted for GWB rescind their votes retroactively?

You know, so we can undo the damage.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:27 PM

88. If I understand what Romney is saying: Everything was squeky clean until he left to manage

the olympics. Then all of a sudden Bain changed their whole way of doing things - and became villians that helped moved jobs to China, etc

Only people with Freeper mentality would believe this.

No wonder he doesn't want anyone to see his tax returns.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:38 PM

89. Ed's an experienced shoveler of .....

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:50 PM

90. Hey, Robme wasn't the driver of the clown car for nothing.

What else do you expect from the driver of the clown car, people?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:03 PM

91. "Retroactive Retirement”

reads like something written on an Etch A Sketch.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 10:40 PM

92. Well, Romney's religion retroactively baptizes dead people

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 11:50 PM

93. Another one bites the dust...

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Nice try-- at least it's alliterative

I do so look forward to the debates...

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 02:22 AM

96. Hey, Gillespie, Did Romney Also Return All Compensation Received After February, 1999?

Surely, he would have done that, right? Also, what did Romney claim in 2002 to satisfy his residency requirement for his run as Governor -- that he took a temporary leave to run the Olympic Committee. Looks to me like he wants it both ways.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:06 AM

97. He signed legal documents while he was retroactively "retired." That sounds illegal.

I'm beginning to wonder now, what happens if a candidate for President is charged with a felony? No doubt he will continue to campaign while out on bail. He would insist the federal felony charges are just "technicalities" and trumped-up political theater. His legal team would delay the trial until after the election. He won't be elected, but in theory, he could be convicted after taking the oath of office. Then he could pardon himself!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:27 AM

99. It is all the fault of Chicago

" .... somehow Chicago… is trying to make it something sinister."

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:05 AM

102. sounds like he was on leave then

not retired.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:08 AM

106. This Is Great News!

Does this mean I can be a virgin again?

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 10:14 PM

108. Maybe

Mitt should retroactively retire as a Presidential candidate ....

or retroactively release his tax returns.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jul 17, 2012, 12:07 AM

109. "He left a life he loved to go to Salt Lake City and help a country he loves more,

and somehow Chicago...is trying to make it something sinister."

Seems like Ruhpublicans really have it out for Chicagoans, don't they?

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