Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:32 PM
Liberal_in_LA (28,703 posts)
Romney says he will release no more than two years of federal tax returnsLast edited Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:33 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Source: Ballot Box
Mitt Romney on Friday said he will release only two years of tax returns. “We've complied with the law,” Romney told CNN. “The law requires us to put out a full financial disclosure. That I've done. I know there will always be calls for more, people always want to get more, and, you know, we're putting out what is required plus more that is not required, and those are the two years that people are going to have.” “That's all that's necessary for people to understand something about my finances,” Romney added. Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/237879-romney-will-release-only-two-years-of-tax-returns There must be something really juicy in the prior tax returns.
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| Liberal_in_LA | Jul 2012 | OP | |
| Marrah_G | Jul 2012 | #1 | |
| russspeakeasy | Jul 2012 | #15 | |
| roguevalley | Jul 2012 | #23 | |
| wordpix | Jul 2012 | #28 | |
| Lionessa | Jul 2012 | #2 | |
| handmade34 | Jul 2012 | #3 | |
| Lionessa | Jul 2012 | #18 | |
| SDjack | Jul 2012 | #4 | |
| Grassy Knoll | Jul 2012 | #5 | |
| eggplant | Jul 2012 | #7 | |
| Trillo | Jul 2012 | #6 | |
| DCKit | Jul 2012 | #8 | |
| justice1 | Jul 2012 | #9 | |
| Smilo | Jul 2012 | #10 | |
| oberliner | Jul 2012 | #11 | |
| Bjorn Against | Jul 2012 | #27 | |
| wordpix | Jul 2012 | #29 | |
| sofa king | Jul 2012 | #36 | |
| Shankapotomus | Jul 2012 | #41 | |
| DaveJ | Jul 2012 | #12 | |
| WinstonSmith4740 | Jul 2012 | #13 | |
| Iliyah | Jul 2012 | #14 | |
| MustBeTheBooz | Jul 2012 | #17 | |
| JBoy | Jul 2012 | #16 | |
| bupkus | Jul 2012 | #19 | |
| Rosa Luxemburg | Jul 2012 | #20 | |
| Canuckistanian | Jul 2012 | #21 | |
| rocktivity | Jul 2012 | #22 | |
| yardwork | Jul 2012 | #24 | |
| aint_no_life_nowhere | Jul 2012 | #25 | |
| Mnemosyne | Jul 2012 | #26 | |
| slingsam | Jul 2012 | #30 | |
| Ian David | Jul 2012 | #31 | |
| DallasNE | Jul 2012 | #32 | |
| alp227 | Jul 2012 | #33 | |
| leftynyc | Jul 2012 | #34 | |
| Volaris | Jul 2012 | #39 | |
| leftynyc | Jul 2012 | #46 | |
| Volaris | Jul 2012 | #48 | |
| sofa king | Jul 2012 | #35 | |
| DCBob | Jul 2012 | #37 | |
| sofa king | Jul 2012 | #47 | |
| cali | Jul 2012 | #38 | |
| bye | Jul 2012 | #40 | |
| fishwax | Jul 2012 | #43 | |
| Moosepoop | Jul 2012 | #44 | |
| PATRICK | Jul 2012 | #42 | |
| cstanleytech | Jul 2012 | #45 | |
| hughee99 | Jul 2012 | #49 |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:33 PM
Marrah_G (22,446 posts)
1. coward
Response to Marrah_G (Reply #1)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 08:06 PM
russspeakeasy (5,734 posts)
15. Nope, crook .
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Response to russspeakeasy (Reply #15)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:03 PM
roguevalley (32,811 posts)
23. tax evasion and fraud. I smell it.
Response to roguevalley (Reply #23)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:38 PM
wordpix (12,478 posts)
28. I do, too
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I would have no problem putting out my own tax forms so why does he?
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:34 PM
Lionessa (3,894 posts)
2. He doesn't even need a shovel. He's digging fine just as he is.
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I really don't think he's going to make it through the nominating process. I think there's going to be a republican coup that puts someone like Chris Christy, or Jeb Bush, a fresh face, booting RP to curb. That's what I think.
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Response to Lionessa (Reply #2)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:39 PM
handmade34 (9,491 posts)
3. yup...
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been saying that for weeks now
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Response to handmade34 (Reply #3)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 08:28 PM
Lionessa (3,894 posts)
18. Or contrarily have found
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that having just enough "power" to get nothing changed is working just fine and lining their pockets quite well. What is there really left to aspire to. They don't need to lead, they just need to get everything to stay right on the course it is on.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:39 PM
SDjack (1,066 posts)
4. rMoney is a crook. n/t
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:40 PM
Grassy Knoll (4,275 posts)
5. If you think about it, Obama Only Released....
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2 Birth Certificates.
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Response to Grassy Knoll (Reply #5)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:43 PM
eggplant (975 posts)
7. rotflmao. +1. n/t
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:43 PM
Trillo (7,230 posts)
6. "full financial disclosure" means only the last two years?
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:50 PM
DCKit (18,326 posts)
8. I'm thinking he still had those offshore accounts three years back.
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You know us common people wouldn't understand.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:50 PM
justice1 (711 posts)
9. I had to produce income tax returns for a 20 year FBI background check, for a McAirline job.
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I don't think it's to much to ask, of someone who wants to be POTUS.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:54 PM
Smilo (1,886 posts)
10. State - I want your state tax returns for the last few years Mittens. n/t
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:58 PM
oberliner (22,150 posts)
11. What do you think he is hiding?
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That he managed to pay next to no taxes some years or something even beyond that?
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Response to oberliner (Reply #11)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:34 PM
Bjorn Against (8,216 posts)
27. He is hiding the fact that he was not living in his son's unfinished basement in 2010
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Mitt Romney voted for Scott Brown in the Massachusetts special election in 2010, the problem is he did not own a home in Massachusets in 2010 which would make him ineligible to vote. Romney claimed his primary home was his son's unfinished basement so that he could vote, if his tax returns were to show that he was living anywhere other than his son's unfinished basement it would be proof that he committed felony voter fraud. That is why he can't release his returns.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9397 |
Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #27)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:42 PM
wordpix (12,478 posts)
29. I am guessing he had offshore accounts somewhere, if not in Bain's name then in another's
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He does not want it disclosed that he's got millions stashed here and there all over the world except in the US, where he'd have to pay taxes on the interest, dividends or whatever.
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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #27)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 09:01 AM
sofa king (8,707 posts)
36. Wouldn't that be a hoot?
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Mitt Romney, the only documented case of voter fraud in 2010.
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Response to sofa king (Reply #36)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:40 AM
Shankapotomus (2,317 posts)
41. LOL...Please let this happen..
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I would be chuckling insanely to myself all the live long day for the next four years if this happened.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:58 PM
DaveJ (4,934 posts)
12. How much worse can it be?
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Last edited Fri Jul 13, 2012, 08:02 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) We already know Romney stores his money offshore.
We already know Romney eliminated jobs for personal profit. We already know Romney made every effort to avoid U.S. taxes. None of this bothers Repungant-can voters at all. They actually like it. In many way he was betting against America. But but I feel there must be something more. I can't fathom how disgusting it might be, only his ilk probably is capable of whatever sicko things he did. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:59 PM
WinstonSmith4740 (740 posts)
13. Simply more evidence of the flat-out arrogance...
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born of money and the access to power it brings. We're the "little people". We don't deserve to know whats going on, since we can't understand it anyway, along with the "college kids, baby-sitters, and nails ladies".
By the way gentlemen. This is what it felt like back in the 70's whenever women wanted to be kept in the loop in business, and our bosses patted us on the head and told us not to "worry your pretty little head about this stuff". |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:59 PM
Iliyah (2,359 posts)
14. I guess Mittens is
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relying on stealing the elections with his cohorts, i.e., gov goppers and their legislators.
Welcome to your 2nd term, Pres O. He definitely has something to hide and yes, he knew and controlled Bain and yes he knows what is happening with his offshore tax haven accounts. He is not presidential material. |
Response to Iliyah (Reply #14)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 08:27 PM
MustBeTheBooz (55 posts)
17. "He is not presidential material."
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Agreed. But, I seem to remember sometime around say, 12 years ago, another obviously not ready for prime time candidate declared on his campaign plane, and I'm going off of memory here, "We're gonna win Florida. I can guarantee that." And the rest is recent history.
The money, the media, the perfectly legal lies and propaganda, the money (yeah, I said it twice), the electronic voting machines, the money (that's three!), and purged voter rolls have got me worried. Talk me down! If I hadn't seen it in 2000 with Bush, and then again in 2010 with the Red Tide, I would give the system and American voters more credit. But I worry... Must be the booze. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 08:26 PM
JBoy (7,464 posts)
16. Clearly, there's enough "bad" in the older returns that make
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running this gauntlet of crossfire the preferred alternative for him.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 08:36 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (22,020 posts)
20. How about all tax records?
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:02 PM
Canuckistanian (42,204 posts)
21. I'm REALLY intrigued about what could be in that return from 3 years ago
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Why the cutoff? He was long gone from Bain at that point.
What is he hiding? |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:03 PM
rocktivity (36,630 posts)
22. WE DID IT -- HE'S BLINKED!
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Last edited Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:29 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) But two years won't do it -- we need 1999 through 2002, at the VERY least!
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:12 PM
yardwork (37,075 posts)
24. Drip Drip Drip
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:22 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (18,936 posts)
25. Can you imagine having THIS in the White House?
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We'd always be suspecting the President is a fraud, a tax cheat, and maybe worse.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:26 PM
Mnemosyne (16,184 posts)
26. Can we pick which years? nt
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 11:01 PM
slingsam (223 posts)
30. I aso think....he should show us his certificate of live birth!
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 11:04 PM
Ian David (68,441 posts)
31. I bet he filed his taxes IN KENYA!!! n/t
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:36 AM
DallasNE (2,960 posts)
32. But He Is Not Releasing Any State Returns
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And that is telling as well. Especially if he filed some years in New Hampshire.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:47 AM
alp227 (20,488 posts)
33. Too bad Mitt's dad isn't here to give him a stern lecture.
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George W. Romney, an Eisenhower Republican who was a governor of Michigan during the '60s, actually released 12 years of tax returns when he ran for president in '68. In 1992, Bill Clinton did the same. In contrast, in 1980, Reagan released only his 1979 taxes. Also in 1976, "Jimmy Carter and President Gerald Ford both released their 1975 tax returns and it was noted that an investment tax credit signed into law by Ford resulted in a significant tax windfall for a peanut warehouse owned by Carter." (Source for all this: Politifact)
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 07:00 AM
leftynyc (10,337 posts)
34. While his returns may be perfectly legal
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and he took those deductions that were available to someone with his wealth, the real message that should be loud and clear is that he (I'm almost sure) pays an effective tax rate that is less, maybe less than half, of that of someone in the middle class. It's the question of fairness that shows in the return he's already shown and will be in the one for 2011. I don't think it's prudent to claim there is illegality there if we don't know that for sure, but the unfairness of the tax code should be pounded into every citizen's head.
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Response to leftynyc (Reply #34)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:06 AM
Volaris (1,583 posts)
39. Ins't reformation of the Tax Code something The Pres. is saying he wants done in the Second Term?
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what an excellent way to make The President's argument FOR HIM! Thanks, Mittens! As my neighbor the 'bagger would say.."That's mighty white of ya."
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Response to Volaris (Reply #39)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 05:37 PM
leftynyc (10,337 posts)
46. Something needs to be done
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I'd even be okay with leaving the top tier at 36% IF, and only if, they get rid of all all the loopholes and subsidies. But that's precisely why mittens wont release more returns. It must be even worse than the one where he paid something like 15%. Maybe even paid no taxes....and that that may be legal is simply as wrong as can be.
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Response to leftynyc (Reply #46)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:46 PM
Volaris (1,583 posts)
48. I agree, and the last thing Romney wants
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Last edited Sun Jul 15, 2012, 04:50 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) is ANY discussion on the differences between the 1% and the 99%. He knows it would not only kill his campaign in this particular cycle, but it would stop the gravy train to all his 1%-er compatriots, and that CANNOT be allowed to happen, even if it means Mittens has to be the sacrificial lamb.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 09:00 AM
sofa king (8,707 posts)
35. So we get to keep asking, "what's under the rock?"
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The crime is always larger than the cover-up. It is both fair and rational to assume that in cases where one is evading the release of documents which would answer a particular question definitively, which is what Romney is doing.
It is also perfectly reasonable to point that out ad nauseum. It is not a personal attack. It is correctly pointing out evasive behavior which is almost certainly concealing a darker secret, one which the American people require to be answered if they are to make an informed decision. If this were merely a question of alienating the public by disclosing how wealthy he is, Romney could have easily taken on a Daddy Warbucks persona five years ago, thrown some money around to carefully selected demographics, and turned his wealth into a political asset. He did not, and he did not even try. So Mitt is definitely hiding something, and it is something big enough that he is willing to take a torpedo in the side to avoid disclosing it. Naturally, I and several million other Americans like me suddenly want to know what that is. Not good for Mitt. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 09:40 AM
DCBob (14,773 posts)
37. We need a hacker or insider who can get those returns.
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McCain's got em... right? Maybe some former McCain staffer will be a "good samaritan".
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Response to DCBob (Reply #37)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 08:56 AM
sofa king (8,707 posts)
47. I'm not sure I like that idea.
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Floating his returns early might potentially damage the chances of successful criminal prosecution later. Romney's taking a lot of damage for this already, but he's not coming off the ball.
That means to me that he stands to lose considerably more than he already has by disclosing the documents. I've really come to dislike the fellow and I'd rather see him get his ass whipped and go to jail than just see him get his ass whipped even harder. So I say let him hold back while the CID assembles a case against him. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 09:45 AM
cali (80,254 posts)
38. good luck with that, mitty.
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:27 AM
bye (1 post)
40. The hypocrisy
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of this thread and this website are interesting to say the least. Nothing but a lurker to this site of which I stumbled onto last week. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this the same game oBama played just 4 years ago? Maybe rMoney, mittens, or mitty will release the remaining returns after they have been thoroughly and properly doctored.
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Response to bye (Reply #40)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 11:32 AM
fishwax (25,094 posts)
43. for the record, Obama put his tax returns on the internet during the primaries four years ago
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"Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this the same game oBama played just 4 years ago?"
In what way? Obama's campaign released years of tax returns (dating back to 2000, iirc) in April of the campaign season. Very nice of you to register in order to call the thread and website hypocritical, but your information and speculation are simply wrong. |
Response to bye (Reply #40)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 11:43 AM
Moosepoop (1,486 posts)
44. OK, I'll correct you since you're wrong (but you knew that).
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No, President Obama did not hesitate to release his tax returns when he was first running for president four years ago -- in fact, he was the first of the candidates at the time to do so, releasing his returns from 2000 forward in March of 2008.
I have no clue what your reference to "doctored" returns is supposed to be about. You simply made it up as you did the notion that Obama "played the same game" as Romney four years ago. By your user name and the content of this first post of yours, I'm assuming that you don't anticipate being here long. You are most likely correct on that, at least. Bye. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:48 AM
PATRICK (11,723 posts)
42. Romney pleads the fifth on financial disclosure
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Last edited Sat Jul 14, 2012, 10:51 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) This would be a nice meme resolution to the impasse(stonewalling too impolite, too reminiscent of retro-Nixon days when it mattered?). The meme would leave both sides frozen honestly in place so we can move on to a) a nice campaign meme("dummying" up) b) a nice slew of routine criminal investigations c) the real importance of the underlying issues(job destruction profiteering, offshore accounts, etc.).
Bravo to a rare instance of the Dems successfully pushing, against media fraud and pressure and GOP favoritism, for an attack meme with legal teeth in it. Maybe they might recall the power of the law and dissemination of truth needs responsible champions. This isn't the Grassy Knoll. This is a candidate for the presidency with the simple records refusing to clear things up. The answers are there. Whether it is the principle involved or the guilt, Romney is hiding the evidence. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 05:28 PM
cstanleytech (5,316 posts)
45. Well there are two other options for why Mitt could be doing this.
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#1 Mitts using it to build up a story with the media like Bush did with his service record and then he releases it so it makes the media look like gullible fools and it will then pretty much quash any future news flat.
#2 Mitts trying to take the eye off someone else like perhaps his wife and her taxes? After all if the media and the public are focused on Mitt then they wont be looking into other places as much where the bodies are really buried in Mitts closet. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Sun Jul 15, 2012, 05:46 PM
hughee99 (10,114 posts)
49. Presidential candidates should release at least 10 years of tax and medical records.
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So the people can be sure that they're not hiding anything recent, at least.
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