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riversedge

(70,189 posts)
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:08 PM Jan 2017

GOP Voted To Ban Congressional Budget Office From Calculating Obamacare Repeal Costs

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Source: bipartisanreport.com





By Caleb R. Newton -
January 6, 2017


In one of the inaugural moves of the just-assembled new Congress, House Republicans have reportedly voted to forbid the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) from calculating the addition to the deficit that will be prompted should ObamaCare be repealed.

Minnesota’s U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison – who is currently in the running to become the next DNC Chairperson – wrote on Twitter early Thursday morning:

‘House GOP rules package bars CBO from counting spikes in deficit spending spurred by an ACA repeal.’


....................Disturbingly, one of the most recent CBO reports – which was published in 2015 – detailing the estimated addition to the deficit that would be prompted by repealing ObamaCare, says that the repeal would add $353 billion to the federal deficit over the next 10 years.

The same report says that repealing ObamaCare would add $137 billion to the national debt over that time frame...............................


Read more: http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/06/gop-voted-to-ban-congressional-budget-office-from-calculating-obamacare-repeal-costs/




How can this even happen!!!
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GOP Voted To Ban Congressional Budget Office From Calculating Obamacare Repeal Costs (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2017 OP
Fuck this shit. Paladin Jan 2017 #1
Or at least loud DFW Jan 2017 #12
Because they dont want the public to be fully informed thats how this can happen. cstanleytech Jan 2017 #2
Fascism has started... pbmus Jan 2017 #3
NAZIS: the lot of them! Chasstev365 Jan 2017 #4
I thought the CBO was supposed to be non-partisan and apolitical? George II Jan 2017 #5
"I thought the CBO was supposed to be non-partisan and apolitical?" BumRushDaShow Jan 2017 #6
You can not keep people from doing math. But you can make the math bigger news McCamy Taylor Jan 2017 #7
How are citizens supposed to make informed choices if the government censors Tanuki Jan 2017 #8
Republicans don't want people to make informed choices. they love low information voters. jg10003 Jan 2017 #14
Low information voter. . .why not call them what they are? Willfully pig ignorant assholes Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #24
I was referring to Trumps statement "I love the low information voters" jg10003 Jan 2017 #25
Because he can't say "I love willfully pig ignorant asshole rubes. Which is what he, and I, mean. Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #26
Its dark in here. milestogo Jan 2017 #9
They are absolutely unbelievable aren't they? Ligyron Jan 2017 #10
Yes, it's beginning.... Useless in FL Jan 2017 #11
They're not even pretending any more NastyRiffraff Jan 2017 #13
The insurance companies, health care providers and big pharma TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #15
Who cares angrychair Jan 2017 #16
I will fight and resist as much as I possible can. riversedge Jan 2017 #18
Unfortunately, they're bringing the rest of us down with them n/t aggiesal Jan 2017 #19
True angrychair Jan 2017 #21
Lie, Cheat and Steal-----the Repug motto. Doitnow Jan 2017 #17
These people will do it... Percy Cholmondeley Jan 2017 #20
So THIS is populism - right? Blue Idaho Jan 2017 #22
Funny thing -- the CBO probably wouldn't even calculate the real cost. byronius Jan 2017 #23
bipartisanreport is not a reliable or mainstream news site OKNancy Jan 2017 #27

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
1. Fuck this shit.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:14 PM
Jan 2017

The blowback on this from Democratic legislators better be loud and effective.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
12. Or at least loud
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:49 PM
Jan 2017

So loud that the right wing MSM can't ignore it even if their Republican masters want them to (and, oh how they do).

The Republicans are saying, in essence, "we are going to fuck things up badly. We know it in advance, and we therefore hereby forbid the government agency in charge of keeping track of this to do so. It is from now on illegal to report on how badly we are going to mess things up, because if the public finds out, we may not have enough schemes to throw the next election our way."

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
2. Because they dont want the public to be fully informed thats how this can happen.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:15 PM
Jan 2017

Hopefully someone will challenge them on this in the courts if it passes as overreach on their part because this rule is not in the best interest of the american people its a rule meant to keep the public uninformed of the Republicans actions.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
3. Fascism has started...
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:15 PM
Jan 2017

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
4. NAZIS: the lot of them!
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:16 PM
Jan 2017

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. I thought the CBO was supposed to be non-partisan and apolitical?
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:17 PM
Jan 2017

This reminds me what Reagan and Congress did soon after taking office in 1981. His "promise" was to reduce unemployment and inflation (the so-called "misery index&quot

To accomplish that they cut the number of weeks that people could receive unemployment benefits (the gauge of "unemployment" back then) and removed energy prices from the calculation of inflation. BOOM! Instantly unemployment dropped a few points and the inflation rate dropped as well. Of course the number of people not working continued to increase along with true inflation.

Smoke and mirrors.

BumRushDaShow

(128,855 posts)
6. "I thought the CBO was supposed to be non-partisan and apolitical?"
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:25 PM
Jan 2017

They are. I can't tell you how many times they were told to score the various drafts and/or other iterations of the ACA "bills" that were being generated and revised by multiple committees in both chambers of Congress during 2009 - 2010... through to the final piece that got signed in March 2010. It had to be close to a dozen.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
7. You can not keep people from doing math. But you can make the math bigger news
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:33 PM
Jan 2017

by trying to ban it.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
8. How are citizens supposed to make informed choices if the government censors
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:36 PM
Jan 2017

an ever-increasing range of topics, from gun violence to climate change to reproductive health and now the basic economics of healthcare? Just because Fox "News" consumers prefer to muddle through fact-free lives is no reason for the rest of us to have to do so. The creeping fascism has reached criminal proportions.

jg10003

(976 posts)
14. Republicans don't want people to make informed choices. they love low information voters.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:54 PM
Jan 2017
 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
24. Low information voter. . .why not call them what they are? Willfully pig ignorant assholes
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 11:37 PM
Jan 2017

More proof Jefferson and Jackson were wrong about the "common man." We are now ruled by mobocracy.

jg10003

(976 posts)
25. I was referring to Trumps statement "I love the low information voters"
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 03:46 AM
Jan 2017

I was referring to Trumps statement "I love the low information voters"

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
26. Because he can't say "I love willfully pig ignorant asshole rubes. Which is what he, and I, mean.
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 04:27 AM
Jan 2017

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
9. Its dark in here.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:37 PM
Jan 2017

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
10. They are absolutely unbelievable aren't they?
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:39 PM
Jan 2017

I have to wonder if this type of information ever gets through to their deplorables.

What am I saying? Even if it did they'd easily believe it was that "fake news" Fox and Rush have been talking about.

Zeus help us all...

Useless in FL

(329 posts)
11. Yes, it's beginning....
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:47 PM
Jan 2017

Fascism is here....

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
13. They're not even pretending any more
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:53 PM
Jan 2017

The road to fascism begins with supressing "inconvenient" facts.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
15. The insurance companies, health care providers and big pharma
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:06 PM
Jan 2017

need to start complaining. Their desires are much more important to the GOP than the desires of the voters.

angrychair

(8,695 posts)
16. Who cares
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:07 PM
Jan 2017

Really. Who cares. This is what America wants. Stop fighting it. It's easier if you just let happen.
Not going to fight the will of America.

People voted or didn't vote and this has happened.
I dont like it but I'm more than happy to give those that voted or didn't vote the apoplectic hellscape they desperately desire.

"Does it hurt?"
"It's as easy as falling asleep"

riversedge

(70,189 posts)
18. I will fight and resist as much as I possible can.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:52 PM
Jan 2017

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
19. Unfortunately, they're bringing the rest of us down with them n/t
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:56 PM
Jan 2017

angrychair

(8,695 posts)
21. True
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:20 PM
Jan 2017

It's not going to change unless people want it too. By compromising and working with trump and republicans, Democrats are getting pulled into the mud with them.

They will be as on the hook for what comes as republicans.
By doing nothing and letting votes pass on 100% republican participation, what happens as a result of those votes is owned by them alone. They are the impact of their actions alone.

I will not empower or aide them nor will I stand in their way. They will own it.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
17. Lie, Cheat and Steal-----the Repug motto.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:46 PM
Jan 2017
20. These people will do it...
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:11 PM
Jan 2017

If it's dirty, and sleazy, and shows no regard for anyone but their own reelections and for the very rich who hire them, today's modern republicans will do it. One would almost think they don't expect history to say anything about them, but they're wrong if they think that. Their descendants will not be proud of what they've done, and what they will do, when history is written of this time.

Blue Idaho

(5,048 posts)
22. So THIS is populism - right?
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:36 PM
Jan 2017

They can keep trying to hide the truth - but as our national debt starts to skyrocket and the economy craters the truth will out.

byronius

(7,394 posts)
23. Funny thing -- the CBO probably wouldn't even calculate the real cost.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:41 PM
Jan 2017

I remember figures from the 1970's motorcycle helmet law legislation that added in the total lost value of the citizen lives to the accident and hospitalization numbers --

Add estimated total value of the lives that will be lost because of this -- for instance, the kid who loses his mother to preventable cancer that might have been able to finish college with her guidance and who might have invented the effing warp drive or the effing replicator --

And it goes into the catastrophic quadrillions.

Not that these vampires give a shit. They're into the death angle. Love them some death and misery.

And for this, they shall be judged.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
27. bipartisanreport is not a reliable or mainstream news site
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 06:51 AM
Jan 2017

It is very biased. The bias is left, but it is still not a real news site. It has a reputation for click-bait headlines.
It's just fine to post this in GD. But LBN is for unbiased mainstream news.

Do not post from this site or politicususa either.

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