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EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:33 PM Jan 2017

Adviser contradicts Trump: Russians hacked the US

Source: CNN

A top adviser to President-elect Donald Trump said Monday he thinks the Russians were involved in election-related hacking of the US -- a very different view than that held by the incoming administration.

Former CIA director James Woolsey, an adviser to Trump on national security issues, told CNN's Jim Sciutto that determining who was behind the hacks is difficult, but that he believes the Russians -- and possibly others -- were involved.

"I think the Russians were in there, but it doesn't mean other people weren't, too," he said. "It's often not foolproof to say who it is because it is possible and sometimes easy to hide your tracks. There's lots of tricks."

Asked if Trump is playing the media with his comments on who was culpable, Woolsey said it was a "possibility," noting that Trump is an "expert in weaving around" on issues like this.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/02/politics/digital-fingerprints-russia-hacking/

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Laurian

(2,593 posts)
2. Ha! "Expert in weaving around"....
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:40 PM
Jan 2017

He gives Trump too much credit. He's just a bumbling idiot in my opinion.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Notice the timing and spacing of
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:47 PM
Jan 2017

Trump's so called Advisors comments and agreements about Hacking. Building a case for plausible deniability. More Media Cover for Trump. This bullshit balloon is about to burst.

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
6. But Glenn Greenwald Said There Is No Proof...
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:28 PM
Jan 2017

...and if Trump himself and Greenwald repeatedly say this, then people will start to believe it. Sort of like denying climate change.

brush

(53,743 posts)
7. How the worm has turned. During the Snowden defection Greenwald was hailed by many . . .
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:58 PM
Jan 2017

as a liberal stalwart.

Others knew better.

Now he's shown his true colors.

TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
8. A Tale of Ukraine, Crimea Crisis and Glenn Greenwald
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:11 PM
Jan 2017

Glenn Greenwald reflexively takes an anti-U.S. position in his reporting vis-a-vis other countries. In other words, it is like false equivalency on steroids where Greenwald will almost always adopt a U.S. government contrarian view. Not surprisingly, Greenwald is frequently quoted on Russia Today, a media outlet that is directly backed by the Russian Government:

https://www.rt.com/usa/368214-greenwald-washington-post-russia/

Of course, if the U.S. government itself directly funded a media outlet, Greenwald would lose his mind. But, since it is Russia, Greenwald gives Russia a free pass.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nikolas-kozloff/a-tale-of-ukraine-crimea_b_5060692.html

What’s wrong with condemning all human rights abuses instead of picking and choosing in a partisan manner? Greenwald however embraces Chomsky dogma with a moralistic fervor, remarking sternly that reporters who report on abuses committed by non-U.S. governments represent “an abdication of one’s primary duty as a journalist.” Going somewhat off the rails, Greenwald adds that such reporters are “cowards.” Here Greenwald seems to be referring to the likes of CNN which to be sure goes easy on U.S. foreign policy. One need not endorse the pro-U.S. bias of the mainstream media, however, to bring independent judgment to bear on world events.

Having bought into the authoritarian left’s dogmatic playbook, Greenwald is ill-equipped and compromised when it comes to discussing anti-U.S. despots. Bizarrely, he criticizes media outlets which attack Bashar al-Assad, whose regime is “said to be slaughtering its own citizens” [emphasis mine]. Come again? Is Greenwald actually questioning whether Assad has launched a genocidal offensive against the Syrian people? Like other axiomatic left commentators, the journalist seems to be soft-pedaling Assad simply because the Syrian leader happens to be on the receiving end of U.S. foreign policy [we’ve been here before with Greenwald, who has also been evasive when it comes to addressing the role of repressive former Soviet satellites like Belarus].

Not surprisingly, Greenwald also hems and haws when it comes to Russia, a nation which has backed up the brutal Assad regime in Syria, not to mention the likes of Alexander Lukashenko in Belarus. In his Guardian column, Greenwald at first condemns Putin for his clamp down on punk rock group Pussy Riot. True to form, however, the journalist cannot help but pivot reflexively once again, remarking that the western media is hypocritical. Even as it condemns repression in Russia, Greenwald writes, the media turns a blind eye to clamp down on the likes of the Occupy movement at home. Committing a key mistake, Greenwald then writes that U.S. abuses are “much more consequential” than violations in Russia. For good measure, Greenwald then seems to venture down a slippery slope, implying that Pussy Riot may have gotten what it deserved since the rock band engaged in culturally provocative acts.

Some of Greenwald’s fellow journalists seem to be growing weary of such somersaults. Take for example reporter Thomas Ricks, who asked Greenwald to comment over Twitter about Vladimir Putin’s aggressive acts. Nonsensically, Greenwald again changed the subject and invited Ricks to denounce Peruvian police corruption and American drone strikes. Exasperated, Ricks remarks “I am no longer going soft on Greenwald,” adding that if his colleague has any moral beliefs, then now would be the time to speak out against Putin.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
10. I'd think repubs would be quick to get on the "russia hacked"
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:11 AM
Jan 2017

bandwagon, thus taking the spotlight off of their voter intimidation & vote suppression laws.

If it weren't for the whole "russia hacked" thing, we'd probably be asking "did the repubs hack?" instead.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
11. Yes, but I saw Woolsey about a week and half ago and he was supporting Tromp, saying that he
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:23 AM
Jan 2017

Trump is independent and that expertise and learning (sorry - I was shocked and did not write down what he was saying because of the stupidity of those words) may help Trump may be able to make better decisions than others because of his independence. When I heard that, I knew he was angling for position in the Trump administration.

Woolsey is an asshole--and maybe he wants his nest to be feathered even beyond the Trump administration.

Expertise is important--whether you are dealing with male deliverers, water technicians, police officers, etc. There is no god damn way that making it up as you go along is going to work in this complex world.

xor

(1,204 posts)
13. teehee you said male deliverers..
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:53 PM
Jan 2017

cowboys4angels?


That whole "I know everything" BS from Trump has really been getting on my nerves. I actually figured that would have faded and maybe he would have decided to act more like a real person and president, but clearly it's not possible for him.

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