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MBS

(9,688 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:41 AM Dec 2016

Israel threatens to give Trump 'evidence' that Obama orchestrated UN resolution

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Source: The Guardian

Israel has escalated its already furious war with the outgoing US administration, claiming that it has rather hard evidence that Barack Obama was behind a critical UN security council resolution criticising Israeli settlement building, and threatening to hand over the material to Donald Trump. . .. The claims have emerged in interviews given by close Netanyahu allies to US media outlets on Monday after the Obama administration denied in categorical terms the claims originally made by Netanyahu himself.

. . .
Doubling down on the claim a few hours later the controversial Israeli ambassador to Washington, Ron Dermer, went even further suggesting it had gathered evidence that it would present to the incoming Trump administration.We will present this evidence to the new administration through the appropriate channels. If they want to share it with the American people, they are welcome to do it, Dermer told CNN.. . . Dermer is a controversial figure in Washington, blamed by the Obama administration for organising the invitation for Netanyahu to address the US Congress in the midst of Israels campaign against the Iran nuclear deal. His comments on CNN seem to represent an even more egregious breach of protocol, not least over the vague sourcing of the evidence alluded to by Keyes and Dermer. Indeed, Israel was accused by unnamed US officials in a Newsweek article two years ago of very sobering alarming even terrifying levels of espionage targeting the US refuted as a malicious fabrication aimed at harming relations by then foreign minister Avigor Lieberman.

Last year, however, US officials again accused Israel of spying, this time on the Iran nuclear talks, with one telling the Wall Street Journal: It is one thing for the US and Israel to spy on each other. It is another thing for Israel to steal US secrets and play them back to US legislators to undermine US diplomacy. Dermers threat on CNN to hand information to Trump would seem to replicate some of those concerns.

Israels threat to present evidence on a sitting president, and one of Israels closest ally, to an incoming presidential team and to do it so publicly appears almost unprecedented.
The moves appear part of a high risk and even more highly partisan strategy on Netanyahus part, tying the future of Israel to a highly unpredictable Republican president-elect with no experience of public office and who comes from the very fringes even of the party he stood as candidate for. The US has already denied the claim made by Israel in the strongest terms. . .


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/26/israel-un-resolution-settlements-obama-trump?



Outrageous.
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Israel threatens to give Trump 'evidence' that Obama orchestrated UN resolution (Original Post) MBS Dec 2016 OP
Welp, there go Obama's hopes for reelection. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2016 #1
Oh noes! He will be impeached!!11 forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #7
So what? vlyons Dec 2016 #2
My thoughts exactly! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #4
Same here n/t They_Live Dec 2016 #19
Bring it Bibi jpak Dec 2016 #3
Soon to be Convict Bibi. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #5
and this does exactly what? the threat of a ninny. nt Javaman Dec 2016 #6
Please proceed! leftofcool Dec 2016 #8
I find it interesting that a bribe investigation is opened after this. GusFring Dec 2016 #9
Why has this Israeli Ambassador not been summoned to the State Department maxrandb Dec 2016 #10
How can anybody that claims to be our ally do so much to attach the leader of that country lancelyons Dec 2016 #11
EXACTLY. MBS Dec 2016 #13
Israel keeps doing this people are going to hate the jews Backwoodsrider Dec 2016 #12
This is what I hate Netanyahu most for. MBS Dec 2016 #14
If there is any light at the end of the tunnel I cant see it Backwoodsrider Dec 2016 #16
Pretty much my view these days, too. MBS Dec 2016 #17
Special investigators on their way to Hawaii at the moment randr Dec 2016 #15
Well, um, the US SHOULD "orchestrate" . . FairWinds Dec 2016 #18
Reveal away, nutty Netty and Likud. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #20
Democrats don't have to kowtow to AIPAC anymore HopeAgain Dec 2016 #21
Locking... DonViejo Dec 2016 #22

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
1. Welp, there go Obama's hopes for reelection. nt
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:44 AM
Dec 2016

forgotmylogin

(7,521 posts)
7. Oh noes! He will be impeached!!11
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:57 AM
Dec 2016

I know our President isn't like this, but I like to picture him doing the Christopher Walken dance around the office pre sabotaging sTrump.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. So what?
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:48 AM
Dec 2016

When did it become a crime to lobby for a UN resolution? What the Israelis and Trumsters and RWers fail to recognize is that what's so, is also - so what?

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
4. My thoughts exactly!
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:51 AM
Dec 2016

They_Live

(3,224 posts)
19. Same here n/t
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:14 PM
Dec 2016

jpak

(41,756 posts)
3. Bring it Bibi
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:50 AM
Dec 2016

douchebag

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
5. Soon to be Convict Bibi.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:51 AM
Dec 2016

Javaman

(62,504 posts)
6. and this does exactly what? the threat of a ninny. nt
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:56 AM
Dec 2016

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
8. Please proceed!
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:01 AM
Dec 2016
 

GusFring

(756 posts)
9. I find it interesting that a bribe investigation is opened after this.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:02 AM
Dec 2016

Almost like we had evidemce of our own and sent it to Israel.

maxrandb

(15,298 posts)
10. Why has this Israeli Ambassador not been summoned to the State Department
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:13 AM
Dec 2016

and removed from our country?

Let Trump invite him back in after his coronation, but this level of disrespect, duplicity, depravity and anti-American BULLSHIT should not be tolerated.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
11. How can anybody that claims to be our ally do so much to attach the leader of that country
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:17 AM
Dec 2016

How can anybody that claims to be our ally do so much to attach the leader of that country. This is absolutely stupefying that Netanyahu would stoop to this level.

This guy doesnt partner with United States. He uses them for whatever he wants.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
13. EXACTLY.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:33 AM
Dec 2016

(FYI, you might want to fix that typo: I assume you meant "attack" rather than "attach"?
)

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
12. Israel keeps doing this people are going to hate the jews
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:30 AM
Dec 2016

They are playing with fire

MBS

(9,688 posts)
14. This is what I hate Netanyahu most for.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:36 AM
Dec 2016

And what I fear most.

I'm a strong supporter of Israel's right to exist, but I'm also a fierce opponent of Netanyahu's meddling in the Iran deal, in his openly shameless partisan support for the Republican party, and more. He has caused so much damage to his country, and to US relations with his country. Is there any hope of an end to him and his party's hold over Israeli politics?

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
16. If there is any light at the end of the tunnel I cant see it
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:52 AM
Dec 2016

I keep telling myself "God has this" as I see the world drive off the cliff with strong men Trump. Bibi and Putin etc asking for more speed.

stay safe

MBS

(9,688 posts)
17. Pretty much my view these days, too.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:03 PM
Dec 2016

randr

(12,409 posts)
15. Special investigators on their way to Hawaii at the moment
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:50 AM
Dec 2016
 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
18. Well, um, the US SHOULD "orchestrate" . .
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:08 PM
Dec 2016

anti-settlement resolutions at the UN.

As one can see in the posts above, lots of
Israel supporters are trying to save that
country from itself.

How does it help Israel for the US to support
its getting a total pass on international law?

(A good friend of mine was on two of the Free
Gaza flotillas, and witnessed Israeli contempt for
international law, as well as IDF thuggery, up close
and personal.)

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
20. Reveal away, nutty Netty and Likud.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:38 PM
Dec 2016

Dermer has always been a swinish repug political operative.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
21. Democrats don't have to kowtow to AIPAC anymore
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:51 PM
Dec 2016

Time to move on folks, nothing to see here..

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
22. Locking...
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 01:16 PM
Dec 2016

Over 12 hours old. Published Monday 26 December 2016 18.59 EST, posted at DU Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:41 AM EST

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