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highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:51 PM Dec 2016

McMullin: 'Trump is not a loyal American'

Source: The Hill

Former conservative independent presidential candidate Evan McMullin on Saturday accused President-elect Donald Trump of not being "a loyal American."

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“It must be clear that Donald Trump is not a loyal American and we should prepare for the next four years accordingly," McMullin wrote on Twitter.

McMullin argued that with the selection of Tillerson, "Trump has identified a potential secretary of state unlikely to oppose Trump's alignment with Putin."

He also accused Trump of "purposely dismantling barriers that protect our nation from dangerous Russian subversion, which he has also welcomed."

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Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/309830-mcmullin-slams-trump-over-russia-tillerson-reports

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McMullin: 'Trump is not a loyal American' (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 2016 OP
I'm with Evan on this one. roamer65 Dec 2016 #1
lets see how many are left in that party. mopinko Dec 2016 #4
I have to believe the republican electors are conversing a LOT right now. roamer65 Dec 2016 #5
I'd rather have Evan McMullin in the WH as well. Ilsa Dec 2016 #6
I have heard him speak and he is really a good guy leftofcool Dec 2016 #12
+1 Dawson Leery Dec 2016 #13
i hope so. mopinko Dec 2016 #7
I hope so, mopinko. roamer65 Dec 2016 #25
This is where the Kasich movement comes from rpannier Dec 2016 #8
Hard to say what way the House will go. roamer65 Dec 2016 #10
Right rpannier Dec 2016 #21
Anybody other than Clinton is unacceptable. duffyduff Dec 2016 #29
At this point it's not ever going to happen rpannier Dec 2016 #30
Anybody other than the popular vote winner is unacceptable. duffyduff Dec 2016 #28
All electors are partisan rpannier Dec 2016 #31
roamer, you may be able to answer this canetoad Dec 2016 #16
The TX elector Chris Suprun has said that contact is occurring. roamer65 Dec 2016 #18
Thx for the response canetoad Dec 2016 #19
Yup. He said that precise thing in an interview the other day. roamer65 Dec 2016 #20
No kidding ailsagirl Dec 2016 #2
The Nation is not going to like this. Dawson Leery Dec 2016 #3
not sure it's that simple AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #11
that's not the argument eShirl Dec 2016 #17
We demand that our US Presidents Up-Hold the Constitution! Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #9
He is a disgrace to the title bdamomma Dec 2016 #15
The Founding fathers would spit on Trump flamingdem Dec 2016 #14
They, like other intelligent people, would not have gotten within spitting distance of asswipe! FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2016 #27
No doubt at all. Lots of sticky, hot tar, then a roll through some gravel should work. Judi Lynn Dec 2016 #33
A trump tar baby flamingdem Dec 2016 #34
drumpf is loyal to drumpf. Whoever has the most to offer him for his Cha Dec 2016 #22
Can you imagine area51 Dec 2016 #23
McCarthy was probably a Russian agent. roamer65 Dec 2016 #24
He may be a murderer, or a spy. We'll never know because Pres-elect doesn't even get a basic securit Sunlei Dec 2016 #26
Our biggest problem is DT! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #32

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
4. lets see how many are left in that party.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:08 PM
Dec 2016

they might just surprise us. it sure gives the never trumpers some serious cover.
wonder how many electors are not cheeto worshippers? dont see any reason to believe there are none, since they were picked early on in the process, i think.

did you see this?
http://www.mediaite.com/online/joe-walsh-goes-on-tweetstorm-against-russian-hackers-and-no-one-can-believe-it/

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
5. I have to believe the republican electors are conversing a LOT right now.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:16 PM
Dec 2016

If they can't vote for Hillary, I hope Hillary steps forward and "unbinds" her electors to vote freely.

This is about preserving the American republic.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
6. I'd rather have Evan McMullin in the WH as well.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:19 PM
Dec 2016

I told friends that if I was a Republican, I'd vote for him, and not consider it throwing away my vote. Anything to stop trump.

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
7. i hope so.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:22 PM
Dec 2016

there have to be a few never trumpers in there. have to.

times like this bring forth strange heroes sometimes.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
8. This is where the Kasich movement comes from
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:44 PM
Dec 2016

He seems to be their rallying point, which is understandable
He stood opposed to Trump from the beginning, while people like Rubio and Cruz eventually caved
It will be interesting to see what happens
No matter what, the blood-letting will be something
If they vote Il Douche he will likely come in at about 40% popularity, with large opposition from within his own party -- Russia being the biggest issue
If the electors were to keep him under 270, then I am guessing that enough of the Republicans in the House would go with Kasich or someone else -- a Republican
The administration would struggle early on with the angry Trumpolini faithful, but could right the ship enough
Trump would be a disaster, but his throngs of fascist faithful will not abandon him

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
10. Hard to say what way the House will go.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:19 PM
Dec 2016

Each state Reps caucus and decide which candidate they will vote for as a state.

The first of the 3 candidates to get to 26 states is the next POTUS.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
21. Right
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:46 AM
Dec 2016

Anyone who thinks it'll be Clinton is probably fooling themselves since more states have larger Republican congressional delegations, so they will clear 26 states. It's who they ultimately vote for that would be at issue

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
29. Anybody other than Clinton is unacceptable.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:27 AM
Dec 2016

It negates the votes of 65 million people. It is just like what the USSC did with Bush II.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
30. At this point it's not ever going to happen
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 07:57 PM
Dec 2016

The majority of electors are Republican
Republicans control the majority of states in the House
She isn't going to get it

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
28. Anybody other than the popular vote winner is unacceptable.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:25 AM
Dec 2016

The Republicans in the EC are partisan chickenshits.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
31. All electors are partisan
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 07:59 PM
Dec 2016

That's nothing new
They are a slate chosen by the party
They aren't just some group of people chosen by a non-partisan group based on some special knowledge or ability

canetoad

(17,152 posts)
16. roamer, you may be able to answer this
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 12:17 AM
Dec 2016

Do the electors converse, make alliances and otherwise collaborate on their votes?

Not being in the US, I've tried to find some clarity on this but no luck. I've wondered, do they vote in a metaphorical vacuum or is there conversation between them before the electoral vote?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
18. The TX elector Chris Suprun has said that contact is occurring.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 12:24 AM
Dec 2016

He's the one planning to Dump Trumpf. He confirmed that other electors are getting deluged by correspondence. So contact is inferred from that statement as well.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
11. not sure it's that simple
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:48 PM
Dec 2016

Being pro-Russia, Pro-China or Pro-Cuba does not automtically make someone anti-American.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
27. They, like other intelligent people, would not have gotten within spitting distance of asswipe!
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:57 AM
Dec 2016

I'm waiting for Bill Clinton to say that personally he likes the guy, he's a member of the "club" now and the rest of us can go to hell!!!

Cha

(297,154 posts)
22. drumpf is loyal to drumpf. Whoever has the most to offer him for his
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:29 AM
Dec 2016

greedy enterprises.

Be great if all this Russian hacking business ruined his deals.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
24. McCarthy was probably a Russian agent.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:52 AM
Dec 2016

Common practice of Russian intelligence is to infiltrate the ranks of their most vehement opposition. The Cubans learned well from them, so you can bet many strident anti-Castro folks are on their payroll.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
26. He may be a murderer, or a spy. We'll never know because Pres-elect doesn't even get a basic securit
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 06:39 AM
Dec 2016

a basic security check or background check.

All immigrants have a security check a thousand! times harder than trump. He gets nothing, not one basic check. Republicans don't seem to care at all.

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