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JudyM

(29,225 posts)
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:32 AM Nov 2016

Bernie Sanders Just Outsmarted Trump And Made Him Look Clueless On Infrastructure Bill

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Source: Politicususa.com


In a savvy political move, Sen. Bernie Sanders outsmarted the President-elect by reintroducing his own $1 trillion infrastructure spending bill, which offers Democrats an alternative to the Trump plan that Sanders labeled a “scam.”

In a post on Medium, Sen. Sanders wrote: During the presidential campaign, Donald Trump correctly talked about rebuilding our country’s infrastructure. But the plan he offered is a scam that gives massive tax breaks to large companies and billionaires on Wall Street who are already doing phenomenally well. Trump would allow corporations that have stashed their profits overseas to pay just a fraction of what the companies owe in federal taxes. And then he would allow the companies to “invest” in infrastructure projects in exchange for even more tax breaks. Trump’s plan is corporate welfare coming and going.
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The move by Sen. Sanders was politically smart because it provided Democrats with another option to bring to the table. Democrats aren’t going to have to choose whether or not support Trump’s tax cuts as infrastructure spending plan. They can back Sen. Sanders plan that would create new jobs by spending directly on infrastructure projects. Experts have concluded that what Trump calls infrastructure spending is nothing more than a tax cut for the rich.

There are serious questions about whether or not Trump will have the Republican votes in Congress to pass his infrastructure bill. If Trump ends up needing Democrats votes, it will be the legislation of Sen. Sanders that may end up being part of any compromise that is reached.

Bernie Sanders just pulled off a clever move that painted President-elect Trump into a corner and made the prospects of passage for his infrastructure bill much dicier.




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If this works, dems will be able to steal back the glory tRump would otherwise benefit from passing his own infrastructure bill, could help us in the midterms.

(It would be greatly appreciated if we all do our best to not use this thread about Bernie's strong, positive-for-Progressives action to bash him. Can we please try to integrate our strengths instead of being divisive? Thanks in advance )
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Bernie Sanders Just Outsmarted Trump And Made Him Look Clueless On Infrastructure Bill (Original Post) JudyM Nov 2016 OP
K&R!!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #1
This is how you lead an opposition. Ligyron Nov 2016 #2
Go Bernie Go! K&R! Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #3
and what makes you think the MSM will be reporting this? Trump just had a closed door meeting still_one Nov 2016 #4
Yes, we are going to see which media outlets will be kissing up to him, including censoring JudyM Nov 2016 #5
They will all kiss his ass. Scruffy1 Nov 2016 #6
This is a good OP, with good information and it lets everyone know that no one is going to be fooled still_one Nov 2016 #7
Kudos to Sen Sanders. But if his infrastructure bill is passed in any form, it will be the Fla Dem Nov 2016 #8
Rec! progressoid Nov 2016 #9
Thank you, Sen. Sanders! Good news and I'm hoping for success wordpix Nov 2016 #10
Trump doesn't know diddly . . . MrModerate Nov 2016 #11
Bernie earned his nick as the Amendment King cuz he gets shit done Arazi Nov 2016 #15
K & R Duppers Nov 2016 #12
Yay Bernie! Beacon of light in the pig bile darkness! lonestarnot Nov 2016 #13
Thanks once again, Bernie. democrank Nov 2016 #14
Locking... DonViejo Nov 2016 #16
6 and 1/2 dozen Elmergantry Nov 2016 #17

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
1. K&R!!!! n/t
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:37 AM
Nov 2016

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
2. This is how you lead an opposition.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:37 AM
Nov 2016

This infrastructure idea I first heard floated by Tweety, which if true, is one thing I'll give him some credit for.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
3. Go Bernie Go! K&R!
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:39 AM
Nov 2016

still_one

(92,131 posts)
4. and what makes you think the MSM will be reporting this? Trump just had a closed door meeting
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:43 AM
Nov 2016

with the press, and the lines were drawn very clearly what he expects from them. An interesting side note from that meeting is the way CNN characterized it, verses the Washington Post and the NY Times:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028296782

This OP is the perfect vehicle to utilize the written media or social media to propagate the message, because by all initial appearance, the broadcast media has been compromised.

One last side note, Mr. Trump was supposed to meet with the NYTimes today but cancelled that meeting, along with a tweet slamming the NYTimes.

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
5. Yes, we are going to see which media outlets will be kissing up to him, including censoring
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:47 AM
Nov 2016

both topics and angle and, of course, no photos of his double chin.

Scruffy1

(3,255 posts)
6. They will all kiss his ass.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:52 AM
Nov 2016

That's what they know how to do. The media will not save us.

still_one

(92,131 posts)
7. This is a good OP, with good information and it lets everyone know that no one is going to be fooled
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:53 AM
Nov 2016

Fla Dem

(23,650 posts)
8. Kudos to Sen Sanders. But if his infrastructure bill is passed in any form, it will be the
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:25 AM
Nov 2016

Republicans who will get the credit. It will be passed by a Republican House, a Republican Senate and signed by a Republican President. Additionally, the Rethugs will probably tack on some anti Democratic amendment or bill that benefits them, causing some Dems not to vote for the underlying bill. We (Dems) will get no credit for anything for the next 4 years.

And the press will hail this as a remarkable Trump achievement fulfilling one of his campaign promises.

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
9. Rec!
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:29 AM
Nov 2016

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
10. Thank you, Sen. Sanders! Good news and I'm hoping for success
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:33 AM
Nov 2016
 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
11. Trump doesn't know diddly . . .
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:33 AM
Nov 2016

About getting anything done in Congress. And outside of Pence, he doesn't seem to be bringing in anyone who does.

Is Speaker Ryan just going to grab ahold of the agenda and start cramming bills through Congress to Trump's desk? Will Ryan even take Trump's calls?

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
15. Bernie earned his nick as the Amendment King cuz he gets shit done
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:44 AM
Nov 2016

in Congress.

Go Bernie

Duppers

(28,118 posts)
12. K & R
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:34 AM
Nov 2016

Thank you, Judy.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
13. Yay Bernie! Beacon of light in the pig bile darkness!
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:35 AM
Nov 2016

democrank

(11,092 posts)
14. Thanks once again, Bernie.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:39 AM
Nov 2016

Bring the fight to the fascist, and don`t stop.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
16. Locking...
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:56 AM
Nov 2016

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Elmergantry

(884 posts)
17. 6 and 1/2 dozen
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:57 AM
Nov 2016

Of the other. Sanders would lay the companies for infrastructure work whilst trump would pay using tax cre dits. Not enough info here to see why one plan is better than the other.

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