Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:15 AM
maddezmom (131,279 posts)
Texas governor rejects two provisions of health lawLast edited Tue Jul 10, 2012, 08:03 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Source: Reuters
Reuters) - Texas Governor Rick Perry said on Monday his state will not implement a Medicaid expansion or health insurance exchange, two provisions of the federal healthcare law upheld last month by the U.S. Supreme Court. "I will not be party to socializing healthcare and bankrupting my state in direct contradiction to our Constitution and our founding principles of limited government," Perry said in a statement. "I stand proudly with the growing chorus of governors who reject the Obamacare power grab. Neither a 'state' exchange nor the expansion of Medicaid under this program would result in better 'patient protection' or in more 'affordable care,'" Perry said. "They would only make Texas a mere appendage of the federal government when it comes to health care." Some other states with Republican governors, including Wisconsin, Louisiana and Florida, also have said they would say no to the two provisions, with the hope that November elections will result in Republicans winning the White House and enough seats in Congress to repeal the law. Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/09/us-usa-health-texas-idUSBRE8680O220120709 Perry's Medicaid plan would pass on $76 billion in federal funds for Texas ¬snip¬ State and federal Republican officials praised his move, saying the legislation could eventually leave the state holding the bag for billions in additional spending. But the hospital industry and patient-care advocates say taxpayers will have to continue footing the bill for uninsured people, who will seek medical care when they're the sickest and most expensive to treat. The hospital industry in Texas, which has agreed to more than $14 billion in reimbursement reductions that accompany the federal law, is a big supporter of the legislation for many reasons, said Steve Love, president of the Dallas-Fort Worth hospital council. Only about half the adult population in Texas receives health insurance through an employer, because many Texans work in industries such as food service, retail and agriculture that don't provide coverage, Love said. Read more here: http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2012/07/10/2137473/perrys-medicaid-plan-would-pass.html#storylink=cpy
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| maddezmom | Jul 2012 | OP | |
| railsback | Jul 2012 | #1 | |
| HockeyMom | Jul 2012 | #2 | |
| joeglow3 | Jul 2012 | #4 | |
| awoke_in_2003 | Jul 2012 | #22 | |
| Posteritatis | Jul 2012 | #11 | |
| cstanleytech | Jul 2012 | #3 | |
| Igel | Jul 2012 | #16 | |
| LiberalFighter | Jul 2012 | #20 | |
| leftyohiolib | Jul 2012 | #5 | |
| kentauros | Jul 2012 | #34 | |
| kestrel91316 | Jul 2012 | #6 | |
| Kingofalldems | Jul 2012 | #7 | |
| still_one | Jul 2012 | #9 | |
| amfortas the hippie | Jul 2012 | #31 | |
| still_one | Jul 2012 | #35 | |
| LibDemAlways | Jul 2012 | #8 | |
| coalition_unwilling | Jul 2012 | #10 | |
| Posteritatis | Jul 2012 | #12 | |
| Igel | Jul 2012 | #17 | |
| onenote | Jul 2012 | #18 | |
| lobodons | Jul 2012 | #13 | |
| uwep | Jul 2012 | #14 | |
| bluestateguy | Jul 2012 | #15 | |
| sakabatou | Jul 2012 | #19 | |
| Deep13 | Jul 2012 | #29 | |
| amfortas the hippie | Jul 2012 | #32 | |
| sakabatou | Jul 2012 | #33 | |
| muntrv | Jul 2012 | #21 | |
| Javaman | Jul 2012 | #23 | |
| Canuckistanian | Jul 2012 | #24 | |
| tammywammy | Jul 2012 | #26 | |
| They_Live | Jul 2012 | #25 | |
| magic59 | Jul 2012 | #27 | |
| Deep13 | Jul 2012 | #28 | |
| bonzotex | Jul 2012 | #30 |
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:23 AM
railsback (836 posts)
1. Texas has the worst health care in the States
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Of course Perry would reject it.
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Response to railsback (Reply #1)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:28 AM
HockeyMom (10,821 posts)
2. Florida has horrible health care too
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I am from NY and the difference is night and day.
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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #2)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:32 AM
joeglow3 (3,317 posts)
4. They blame it on "teh illegals".
Response to joeglow3 (Reply #4)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:36 PM
awoke_in_2003 (18,751 posts)
22. Fascists
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always have a scapegoat.
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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #2)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:54 AM
Posteritatis (17,454 posts)
11. Hey now, tuberculosis currently adores Florida's health care! (nt)
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:28 AM
cstanleytech (5,508 posts)
3. What two faced talking out of their ass hypocrites!! They claim they will abide by the scotus ruling
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Last edited Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:30 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) yet when now thats its not the ruling they thought the deck was stacked with scotus that they were counting on they now say they are going to opt out.
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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #3)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 01:02 PM
Igel (17,637 posts)
16. Don't see the legal problem.
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SCOTUS threw out the penalty for not accepting the Medicaid expansion. It was optional under the law, not illegal if you paid the penalty.
The law itself says that states don't have to set up the exchanges. If they choose not to, the Federal government will. Abiding by the terms of the law and the SCOTUS decision doesn't mean selecting one option over the other--just doing what the law, as interpreted by the SCOTUS, says. I can see lots of other problems with Perry's decision. Just not a legal one. |
Response to Igel (Reply #16)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 01:46 PM
LiberalFighter (31,155 posts)
20. Good News!! That Perry won't implement state exchanges. Seriously IMO
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Unless I am mistaken, the more states that let the federal government implement the exchanges the better it will be for everyone. And gets it closer to universal health care. Closer than what is initially intended under the law.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:38 AM
leftyohiolib (3,287 posts)
5. why dont people who spell the word the like this-teh- spell they like tehy
Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #5)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:30 PM
kentauros (22,206 posts)
34. You'd have to ask a neuroscientist.
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Or a rocket surgeon.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:39 AM
kestrel91316 (45,693 posts)
6. So now medical insurance equals socialization?
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Teh stoopit. It burns.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:40 AM
Kingofalldems (11,198 posts)
7. Of course this is a coordinated tactic by the republicans
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They could not care less about anyone's health.
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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #7)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:47 AM
still_one (31,431 posts)
9. It is the misinformed, many racist, and extremely poor judgement of the voters in Texas and Florida
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who keep electing these people
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Response to still_one (Reply #9)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 06:13 PM
amfortas the hippie (46 posts)
31. i try
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i really really try.
It's the tea in their ears. |
Response to amfortas the hippie (Reply #31)
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 12:32 PM
still_one (31,431 posts)
35. I am sure you do try to make them understand. I don't know what it takes to clean out their ears
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:46 AM
LibDemAlways (12,955 posts)
8. What about "the Supreme Court has ruled, you have an
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obligation to enact the law in its entirety" don't these assholes understand?
I hope the voters start wising up and firing a bunch of these losers' asses. |
Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #8)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:53 AM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
10. I hope Obama sends in the 82nd Airborne to occupy the Texas
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statehouse and remind Texas who won the Civil War.
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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #8)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:55 AM
Posteritatis (17,454 posts)
12. A bunch of states have started thinking nullification's a thing again, apparently. (nt)
Response to Posteritatis (Reply #12)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 01:04 PM
Igel (17,637 posts)
17. This is in accordance with the law
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Just as the "mandate" isn't obligatory--you don't have insurance, you pay the tan and no law's been broken--so also the Medicaid expansion always was. You don't accept it, you pay a penalty. SCOTUS chucked the penalty; now if you don't accept the Medicaid expansion, you pay nothing.
The exchange will be set up by the Feds. That's what the law says. It's what it's always said, and saying "no" is one of the options for staying in compliance with the law. |
Response to Igel (Reply #17)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 01:14 PM
onenote (22,032 posts)
18. +1
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I wish folks would make the effort to understand what the law requires before posting.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:14 PM
lobodons (668 posts)
13. Pre-meditated Murder
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Perry and his fellow Gov.'s should be brought up on pre-meditated murder with special circumstances (multiple incidents) for denying constituents medicaid and health insurance.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:34 PM
uwep (38 posts)
14. Rick "Good Hair" Perry lacks the ability to Read.
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Perry only has to read the ACA to understand that the state would make out very well, but I guess that is asking too much. This hypocritical governor does not have the common decency to take care of the poor and indigent of his state. He hold religious meetings and pretends that he is holy, but keeps the people in his state in poverty. Just look at where Texas stands on all social issues compared with other states. His "at will" state has created the most poverty jobs in this country.
Does anyone know how to educate this state on the ACA? The republicans are keeping the population of this state dumb ed down. They control the media in the major cities and their media spouts the party line. How many people is this governor going to kill. |
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 12:52 PM
bluestateguy (40,060 posts)
15. Then fly in the boys from Washington to set up the exchange
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And make sure the Texas insurance exchange covers abortions too. They could have excluded abortion coverage had they set up their own exchange, but since they chose not to, too bad. |
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 01:22 PM
sakabatou (29,253 posts)
19. "I will not be party to socializing healthcare..."
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To which I'm sure he's paid into Social Security or gets money from it.
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Response to sakabatou (Reply #19)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 07:42 AM
Deep13 (37,395 posts)
29. I'm sure TX can find another governor if his conscience forces him to resign. nt
Response to sakabatou (Reply #19)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 06:15 PM
amfortas the hippie (46 posts)
32. he got a
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new knee, on my dime, not too long ago.
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Response to amfortas the hippie (Reply #32)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 06:57 PM
sakabatou (29,253 posts)
33. Scumbag hypcrite
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:07 PM
muntrv (8,430 posts)
21. Rick Perry: "Don't get sick! If you do, die quickly!"
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 03:13 PM
Javaman (40,858 posts)
23. that's really amusing little ricky, you already bankrupted the state. nt
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 03:58 PM
Canuckistanian (42,279 posts)
24. WTF is with this "patient protection"?
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I hear RWers using this term all the time. What are they "protecting" patients FROM?
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Response to Canuckistanian (Reply #24)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 07:22 PM
tammywammy (18,522 posts)
26. Doctors and health care apparently.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 06:40 PM
They_Live (820 posts)
25. yet he will socialize 3+ million security expense for his
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failed presidential campaign bid, among other corporate welfare schemes.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:42 AM
magic59 (429 posts)
27. Any state that doesn't implement ACA will take an economic crap
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Its simple, they will lose businesses and workers. These T-bagging govs are economic terrorists.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 07:40 AM
Deep13 (37,395 posts)
28. Wow, too bad the totally Constitutional law is Federal, not state. nt
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 08:29 AM
bonzotex (798 posts)
30. Since it can't be said enough....
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...Rick Perry is an asshole.
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