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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 12:37 AM

alp227 (21,018 posts)

Hillary Clinton says Afghanistan 'major non-Nato ally'

Source: BBC

The United States has given Afghanistan the status of "major non-Nato ally".

The designation, which includes countries such as Australia, Egypt and Israel, gives preferential access to US arms exports and defence co-operation.

The announcement was made by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on an unannounced visit to Kabul.

She was due to meet President Hamid Karzai, a day ahead of a major conference of Afghanistan's foreign donors in Japan.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18750732

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Hillary Clinton says Afghanistan 'major non-Nato ally' (Original post)	alp227	Jul 2012	OP
Get them to give up their nukes.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2012	#1
You have the wrong backward country, You mean Pakistan.	crimson77	Jul 2012	#9
Already covered.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2012	#10
Wow.	bemildred	Jul 2012	#2
Whatever the Obama admin has up their sleeve, they are keeping close to their vest	may3rd	Jul 2012	#14
The main effect is to make it easier to buy arms from the US	FarCenter	Jul 2012	#3
There's another perspective	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2012	#4
The story is about Afghanistan, not Pakistan	FarCenter	Jul 2012	#7
Sorry. I saw another story of Pakistan opening up our ability to use their roads again.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2012	#8
A lot of opium grows in that nation...	may3rd	Jul 2012	#15
So what happens when the Taliban become part of the Afghan government?	Comrade Grumpy	Jul 2012	#5
If you count the NATO troops there...	sofa king	Jul 2012	#6
Afghan woman publicly executed near Kabul ( Let freedom ring )	may3rd	Jul 2012	#11
Not one word in this article about women's rights.	Brigid	Jul 2012	#12
Exactly, in fact have you heard of this story about the Taliban executing a woman for adultery?	alp227	Jul 2012	#13
..If we can't change our friends view on life .....we must change ourselves	may3rd	Jul 2012	#16
Umm . . .	Brigid	Jul 2012	#19
Oooh, yes.	Brigid	Jul 2012	#18
An Obama Administration FAIL	earthside	Jul 2012	#17
Maybe she means Frenemies!	Marrah_G	Jul 2012	#20

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 03:07 AM

Spitfire of ATJ (7,881 posts)

1. Get them to give up their nukes.

Then do the same in India.

Those two countries need to go back to their old rivalry of seeing who can design the silliest headgear.

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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:59 PM

crimson77 (305 posts)

9. You have the wrong backward country, You mean Pakistan.

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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 07:57 PM

Spitfire of ATJ (7,881 posts)

10. Already covered.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 08:19 AM

bemildred (67,764 posts)

2. Wow.

Are we doubling down on Afghanistan? Or just pretending to?

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Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:19 AM

may3rd (593 posts)

14. Whatever the Obama admin has up their sleeve, they are keeping close to their vest

I wonder when the Syrians invite us in to play poker

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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 10:40 AM

FarCenter (13,550 posts)

3. The main effect is to make it easier to buy arms from the US

The donors conference in Tokyo is looking to get major funding for Afghanistan from 70 donors.

The objective is undoubtedly to funnel most of this back into the US arms industry. Arms accounts for a large fraction of US manufacturing output. War is a racket.

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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:24 PM

Spitfire of ATJ (7,881 posts)

4. There's another perspective

It tells Pakistan they don't need to become allies with Iran and thus share their nukes with Iran in return.

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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:32 PM

FarCenter (13,550 posts)

7. The story is about Afghanistan, not Pakistan

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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:44 PM

Spitfire of ATJ (7,881 posts)

8. Sorry. I saw another story of Pakistan opening up our ability to use their roads again.

And thought this was linked.

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Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:22 AM

may3rd (593 posts)

15. A lot of opium grows in that nation...

just putting in my two cents

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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:39 PM

Comrade Grumpy (3,739 posts)

5. So what happens when the Taliban become part of the Afghan government?

It's either that or continuing civil war. And remember, we are trying to negotiate with them as Western forces skedaddle.

Will the Taliban then become a "major non-NATO ally," too?

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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:16 PM

sofa king (8,767 posts)

6. If you count the NATO troops there...

... they ARE a NATO country.

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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:26 PM

may3rd (593 posts)

11. Afghan woman publicly executed near Kabul ( Let freedom ring )

Time to cut and run. They love allah more than their own children anyway

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/07/201277222459392722.html

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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 11:04 PM

Brigid (10,744 posts)

12. Not one word in this article about women's rights.

Last edited Sat Jul 7, 2012, 11:05 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Women's rights are being sacrificed on the altar of -- what, exactly? Diplomacy? It's sickening. Why do we need a primitive rockpile like that for an ally?

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Response to Brigid (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 11:30 PM

alp227 (21,018 posts)

13. Exactly, in fact have you heard of this story about the Taliban executing a woman for adultery?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014161145

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Response to alp227 (Reply #13)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:26 AM

may3rd (593 posts)

16. ..If we can't change our friends view on life .....we must change ourselves

and accept our friends for what they are..... Maybe be more like them

/sarc

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Sun Jul 8, 2012, 12:08 PM

Brigid (10,744 posts)

19. Umm . . .

No.

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Sun Jul 8, 2012, 12:05 PM

Brigid (10,744 posts)

18. Oooh, yes.

And some wonder why I think of the Afghans as a bunch of backward barbarians.

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Sun Jul 8, 2012, 10:02 AM

earthside (4,665 posts)

17. An Obama Administration FAIL

More military commitments to failed states is ultimate a 'FAIL' for the United States and working and middle class taxpayers.

For those on the far reactionary right, where is the appeasing socialist in this kind of policy decision?
And, for those who argue that Pres. Obama is a progressive ... well, this is a pretty rightwing foreign policy action.

Needless to say, I am very disappointed that the Obama administration has done this -- we are never getting out of Afghanistan.

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Sun Jul 8, 2012, 12:13 PM

Marrah_G (22,708 posts)

20. Maybe she means Frenemies!

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