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Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 07:35 PM Oct 2016

Trump Campaign Cuts Ties With Ohio GOP Chairman

Source: Huffington Post

With just few weeks until Election Day, GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump is cutting off his campaign’s relationship with the head of the Ohio Republican Party, Matt Borges.

“Chairman Borges does not represent or speak for the candidate and he no longer has any affiliation with the Trump-Pence campaign,” Trump’s Ohio campaign chairman Bob Paduchik said in a letter on Saturday. “I spoke with Mr. Trump on Thursday and he is very disappointed in Matt’s duplicity.”

The move is another example of how fractious and disorganized Trump’s campaign for the White House has been. Ohio is a must-win state for Trump, and feuding with the state’s party chairman ― while having relatively little on-the-ground infrastructure ― is not how any campaign would prefer to spend the runup to Election Day.

In response to the letter, Borges said, “I speak and meet with Bob Paduchik and Trump team members regularly. Interestingly, none of Bob’s concerns were voiced until he shared them publicly today.”

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-ohio-gop-chair_us_5802a169e4b0162c043c7073?section=&



Trump should probably be locked up as danger to himself and others. I am coming to believe more and more he really does want to lost the election.
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Trump Campaign Cuts Ties With Ohio GOP Chairman (Original Post) Stonepounder Oct 2016 OP
Trump TV only happens if he loses and makes millions of his voters paranoid and angry. blm Oct 2016 #1
Question is how well will it compete with Fox News which pretty much already does all that? cstanleytech Oct 2016 #3
The top personalities at Fox have contract clause that permits them to break it if Ailes not there Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #10
Trump would have to get on basic cable. That's not easy. BlueStreak Oct 2016 #15
He'll buy Beck's network SwankyXomb Oct 2016 #31
Beck has not been supportive of Trump BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #32
With what money? hatrack Oct 2016 #41
Doesn't Ailes have a noncompete clause with FOX? nt tblue37 Oct 2016 #26
Could be, but there are ways to work around that. BlueStreak Oct 2016 #35
Yes, like now. He's not officially with the Trump campaign, Hortensis Oct 2016 #37
I bet in reality he has negative net worth BlueStreak Oct 2016 #39
I wouldn't bet a penny you weren't right. Hortensis Oct 2016 #40
The man is an utter, complete fraud BlueStreak Oct 2016 #43
Yes. He should never have come into the spotlight... Hortensis Oct 2016 #44
I wonder if they have a time limit though to exercise that clauses? nt cstanleytech Oct 2016 #30
The election was never about winning for Trump it was about feeding that giant ego of his cstanleytech Oct 2016 #2
Here's where I get confused. Doesn't it it cost a whole lot of money to start Upthevibe Oct 2016 #6
Finding money is easy PSPS Oct 2016 #7
Yes. That makes sense. However, how does "the republican nominee" actually get cash. Upthevibe Oct 2016 #12
His network will get good ratings Yavin4 Oct 2016 #13
Live from Attica State Prison - it's the Donald Trump Show! JBoy Oct 2016 #18
Lol. The billionaire Spencers are funding Trump now and Hortensis Oct 2016 #38
I suspect its within his budget since he would probably be on cable but the real question cstanleytech Oct 2016 #9
Ailes would be on board and he has a "track record" that would interest investors. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #11
Ailes hasw a record as a sex offender. And so will Trump before this is all over. KittyWampus Oct 2016 #24
He's also morbidly obese, and will likely die soon . .. hatrack Oct 2016 #42
Hating Clintons is cottage industry. Charlatans found GOP voter base to be easy pickins for them blm Oct 2016 #29
I really think awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #14
He could have protected his brand with many ways he could have lost less catastrophicly. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #16
Yep. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #23
That means that Trump has no GOTV operations in Ohio Gothmog Oct 2016 #4
‘Trump was so bad, he made the dog throw up’: Ohio GOP chair’s wife can’t stomach Sunday’s debate Botany Oct 2016 #5
Reaction from the Trump campaign.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #25
Trump is a lot of bad things including too stupid to be president Jarqui Oct 2016 #8
I think Trump is losing his mental faculties, seriously, in a non-recoverable manner. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2016 #17
I agree. I think the fact that he is losing and losing badly Stonepounder Oct 2016 #19
Yep, a Messiah-complex plus paranoia wrapped up in a sociopathic narcissistic package! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2016 #20
That's my assessment - and hope. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2016 #21
I don't either. He's dangerous and deranged, and growing worse. I hope he's checked RKP5637 Oct 2016 #22
Do it Trumpers! Punish the GOP IronLionZion Oct 2016 #27
Trump TV won't happen Jon King Oct 2016 #28
"Getting a prime basic cable slot won't happen." BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #33
MSNBC DeminPennswoods Oct 2016 #34
train wreck in progress 0rganism Oct 2016 #36

blm

(113,013 posts)
1. Trump TV only happens if he loses and makes millions of his voters paranoid and angry.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 07:38 PM
Oct 2016

It's his ONLY plan for the future. Which is why he has to dig in deep with his lies and with all the conspiracies he's spouting.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,960 posts)
10. The top personalities at Fox have contract clause that permits them to break it if Ailes not there
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:48 PM
Oct 2016

So Hannity & O'Reilly & van Susteren and others can jump ship at a moment's notice. I think Kelly can too, but may have less interest following Ailes than others.

Ailes is advising Donald J tRump and is available. He of course was canned at Fox with a $40 million handshake after Carlson's harassment lawsuit hit. Kelly supported her.

BumRushDaShow

(128,494 posts)
32. Beck has not been supportive of Trump
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:18 AM
Oct 2016

oddly enough, although if you wave enough $$$ in his face, he would most likely change his mind. But I expect that Trump would grab Breitbart, Alex Jones, and Drudge.

hatrack

(59,578 posts)
41. With what money?
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 12:56 PM
Oct 2016

He can't get a dime in the States.

Russian gangsters, probably. Or some "libertarian" billionaire who likes little orange pets.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
35. Could be, but there are ways to work around that.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:50 AM
Oct 2016

Ailes could turn up as a "consultant" for the Trump Foundation, and just happen to have his offices at the TV studio.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Yes, like now. He's not officially with the Trump campaign,
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 07:03 AM
Oct 2016

and maybe this is why.

I'm wondering, who actually buys the network or produces the program? Trump may be getting rather poor, by his standards, his brand among large developers and luxury hotel customers hurting very badly for instance. And we know he's comfortable being an employee as long as he can imagine himself the boss.

Trump must have become extremely aware that winning the presidency would mean serious money problems. His kids running a business he's extremely familiar with would guarantee problems should he try to augment an extremely paltry presidential salary. A reality that he was probably very slow to accept--and likely hasn't entirely even now.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
39. I bet in reality he has negative net worth
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 09:56 AM
Oct 2016

And those kids don't seem overly bright to me. They don't seem very far removed from the Kardashians or Hiltons. Donald got loads of money and help from his daddy along the way. The kids would be inheriting a bunch of problem properties, I bet we will learn.

I'm sure Donald is smart enough to siphon money out of the failed properties to but into safekeeping before the next bankruptcy, so none of them will be on the bread line. But I seriously doubt this is a thriving enterprise worth many billions of dollars. It is real estate, so it all depends on how the markets ebb and flow. If he had to sell every property in the next 180 days, I bet it would be billions underwater. Given more time, he may be able to finagle a profit here and there.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
40. I wouldn't bet a penny you weren't right.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 10:33 AM
Oct 2016

It's also possible that Donald may also have both leveraged out and depreciated years ahead most of the company holdings so that true worth is far less than a billion. He may not have time or ability, though. November 28 is only the first of 3 large cases related to Trump U, and the damages could be very serious, including to his "brand." Then there are other legal problems, current and potential, and dad's long gone and can't help him.

I have the same impression about the kids. Bet they're smart enough to move as much as possible of their own out.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
43. The man is an utter, complete fraud
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 04:54 PM
Oct 2016

And he is being exposed as such. Look for the whole thing to crumble by year-end 2017.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
2. The election was never about winning for Trump it was about feeding that giant ego of his
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 07:42 PM
Oct 2016

just like almost everything else he has done.

Upthevibe

(8,015 posts)
6. Here's where I get confused. Doesn't it it cost a whole lot of money to start
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:21 PM
Oct 2016

a T.V. Station? It doesn't appear that he has the billions he says he has. And, it seems obvious that people with money wouldn't want to be financially involved with him since he's shown himself to be horrible in business. So, I don't know how this plan of his would even start to work. He's now become a conundrum!

PSPS

(13,580 posts)
7. Finding money is easy
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:34 PM
Oct 2016

At this stage, we know Trump's "empire" is a mirage kept afloat by a pyramid of "loans" (i.e., money being laundered through him.) Russia would gladly underwrite Trump TV as it would give them a media megaphone in the US for their propaganda. No profit is needed. It could run at a loss. Its purpose would be to manipulate public opinion and policy, not make money -- the same business plan behind most of the RW Wurlitzer from Limbaugh to Fox.

Upthevibe

(8,015 posts)
12. Yes. That makes sense. However, how does "the republican nominee" actually get cash.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:53 PM
Oct 2016

I mean he still has to live. It's so damn confusing to me....

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. Lol. The billionaire Spencers are funding Trump now and
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 07:14 AM
Oct 2016

and using him in an attempt to assert control over the future direction of the Republican Party. Kellyanne Conway and Bannon were both brought in by Spencer, and she at least is being paid by him as well as Trump. A really slimy Trump Show or network for political bottom feeders would likely be right up the Spencers alley.

And there are plenty of others, no doubt. The Koch alliance might be interested. Charles Koch's locust mentality is apparently somewhat different from the Spencers' plans, though both toxic to national prosperity and democracy.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
9. I suspect its within his budget since he would probably be on cable but the real question
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:47 PM
Oct 2016

is can he get any major cable companies to carry it because of everything he has said and done he is now extremely radioactive and any cable company that agrees to carry a channel by him risks pissing off and losing alot of customers.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,960 posts)
11. Ailes would be on board and he has a "track record" that would interest investors.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:49 PM
Oct 2016

However, the other side of his track record (sexual harassment) may turn some of them off.

blm

(113,013 posts)
29. Hating Clintons is cottage industry. Charlatans found GOP voter base to be easy pickins for them
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:28 PM
Oct 2016

and are experts at exploiting them every which way but loose.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
14. I really think
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:03 PM
Oct 2016

he is seriously trying to derail. He wanted the publicity, not expecting to get far. I would almost bet that he calls HRC a filthy word in the next debate.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,960 posts)
16. He could have protected his brand with many ways he could have lost less catastrophicly.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:09 PM
Oct 2016

He's sunk and his brand is toxic.

He's an amateur, an idiot, blinded by ego. He's really far gone.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
5. ‘Trump was so bad, he made the dog throw up’: Ohio GOP chair’s wife can’t stomach Sunday’s debate
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 08:07 PM
Oct 2016

While Donald Trump’s core supporters seemed to love last night’s debate performance, it seems that he did little to win over voters who weren’t already with him headed into Sunday’s showdown.

If you want an example of the problems Trump is having with college-educated women, for example, look no further than Kate Borges, the wife of Ohio Republican Party Chairman Matt Borges.

As the Cincinnati Enquirer reports, Borges found herself completely repulsed by Trump’s assertion that his comments about grabbing women’s genitals were just “locker room talk.”

As she watched Trump’s answer in disgust, the family dog just happened to vomit in the house. “Trump was so bad, he made the dog throw up,” she joked as she was cleaning up the mess.

Borges says that what initially turned her off to Trump was the time he made fun of a reporter’s physical disability, which was particularly hurtful to her because her own daughter is autistic. “I don’t think he respects women,” she told the Enquirer. “I don’t think he respects anybody.”

-snip-

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/trump-was-so-bad-he-made-the-dog-throw-up-ohio-gop-chairs-wife-cant-stomach-sundays-debate/



Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
19. I agree. I think the fact that he is losing and losing badly
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:18 PM
Oct 2016

is really causing some sort of psychological breakdown. I caught him the other night where he was talking about the consortium of 'international bankers', 'the media', and 'Crooked Hillary' who were going to come and 'destroy you, they will destroy everything you have, simply destroy you, and I am the only person who can save you'. He also talked about how he knew the campaign would be rough but that he was willing to shed his blood in order to save this country. WTF? That's not a candidate, that is a Messiah-complex.

Really scary dude.

RKP5637

(67,087 posts)
22. I don't either. He's dangerous and deranged, and growing worse. I hope he's checked
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:30 PM
Oct 2016

with metal detectors before debates.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
27. Do it Trumpers! Punish the GOP
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:08 PM
Oct 2016

oh yeah! be a rebel. Don't tread on me. Defeat those establishment republicans who looked down on you for so long. That'll teach them!



Jon King

(1,910 posts)
28. Trump TV won't happen
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:09 PM
Oct 2016

Unless its a niche thing in some markets. Getting a prime basic cable slot won't happen. I don't think his pandering to the base is about that at all. I think he is a reactive rage filled man who is just going off. Some of his brand will be toxic, some hotels can be rebranded but he still gets the money.

He and his kids will live out their lives very well off, with other peoples money. I don't think this is some master plan at all. Just pure anger.

BumRushDaShow

(128,494 posts)
33. "Getting a prime basic cable slot won't happen."
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:49 AM
Oct 2016

The major cable providers now have thousands of channels. There is no problem getting a "slot". With Ailes gone from Fox and potentially advising (the type and amount of time doing such depending on his exit agreement from Fox), there will be an antsy Fox-addicted audience ready to flee Fox to some other entity willing to provide the type of content that they are accustomed to.

Trump has his fingers involved in industries across the spectrum - from entertainment to travel to sports, along with real estate & business. His "business model" is to license his name and there are plenty out there who would love to have access to a cable channel (like Breitbart & Alex Jones). And by having a "Variety" channel covering all types of entertainment including reality shows, it would get viewers. In this case, he could just call it the "T" channel ("Tee" as in a play on his name and one of his loves - golf), which avoids direct use of the name "Trump" but could use his T logo.

The thing with him is that as long as he operated in "his space" (buying hotels and promoting ostentatious entertainment), Americans didn't care about his highly-jaded "past". Running for office became a whole different animal. But once this "lark" is done and he's back in his regular realm of operation, everything that happened before will be forgotten by his groupies.... unless he is finally made to account for his past and lands himself in jail.

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