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TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:12 AM Sep 2016

Tony Blair Says Iraq War Helped Give Rise to ISIS

Source: New York Times

LONDON — Tony Blair, the former British prime minister, suggested on Sunday that the United States-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, which removed Saddam Hussein from power, helped give rise to the Islamic State, even as he said it was “hard to apologize for removing Saddam.”

Mr. Blair, whose decision to involve Britain in the military mission made him deeply unpopular at home, told CNN that “there are elements of truth” to the view that the war in Iraq helped pave the way for the Islamic State.

The militant group emerged as an offshoot of Al Qaeda in Iraq, which fought the American presence there, before separating from the organization. It now controls vast swaths of territory in Iraq and Syria, and is also known as ISIS or ISIL.

“Of course, you can’t say those of us who removed Saddam in 2003 bear no responsibility for the situation in 2015,” Mr. Blair said in an interview with Fareed Zakaria broadcast on Sunday. “But it’s important also to realize, one, that the Arab Spring which began in 2011 would also have had its impact on Iraq today, and two, ISIS actually came to prominence from a base in Syria and not in Iraq.”

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/26/world/europe/tony-blair-says-iraq-war-helped-give-rise-to-isis.html?_r=0

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Botany

(70,490 posts)
2. Too late Tony
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:21 AM
Sep 2016

Tony Blair along with George W Bush and Dick Cheney started ISIS will be on your headstone.

Remember in 2003 when France warned us that if we started a war in Iraq then the
"blowback" from such actions would be nasty?


TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
4. I think there is room on Paul Bremer's tombstone as well
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:38 AM
Sep 2016

The policy of ostracizing all the medium and low level public servants because they were Baathists lead to a totally destabilized Iraq. The people as well as the NCOs of the armed forces were people that needed to be brought on board, but hey bUSH and company were only interested in moving control from Sunni to Shia.

The whole thing was a S.N.A.F.U. from the pre-invasion to the present.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
5. In late Feb. early March 2003 I heard Joe Wilson on NPR as I was driving west in .....
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:44 AM
Sep 2016

..... my pick up under I 71 and he said something like the following (loose quote)
"We can be in Baghdad in under 1 week and that will be when I troubles will start.
Iraq has 105 different sides and they all hate each other. How are we going to governor
that?"

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
7. Oh did the poodle admit he made a boo boo
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 01:50 PM
Sep 2016


But then excused it because hey, the park would have gone to crap anyways. And besides there's always someone else in future that will come and clean up the mess I helped make.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
9. He ought track down the supporters of that war...
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 02:40 PM
Sep 2016

...and give them a piece of his mind. Since there aren't any pieces of his soul left.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. Yes Poodle, we all STILL know you have the blood of innocents on your hands.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 02:44 PM
Sep 2016

Nobody forgot, nobody is ever going to forgive you either. That stain never washes off Tony, you creepy shithead...you need to stand trial for war crimes.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
12. Tony Can't go Out in Public!
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 06:02 PM
Sep 2016

So glad that Tony can't really go out in public anymore, the anger is palpable everywhere. If this nasty little man had not supported Bush, we might have a better world. Words cannot describe the contempt I have for this man.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
13. OOOOH if he had not would've been great maybe saved a lot of lives.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 06:07 PM
Sep 2016

But do you think we would have liberty muffins for breakfast? (I know they're not English)

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