Bali tourism rocked as Islamic law banning alcohol to be introduced
Source: Daily and Sunday Express
Tourist hotspot Bali is to ban alcohol under a draconian Islamic laws which would ruin the islands economy, experts warn.
The Indonesian island could soon be deserted if a controversial new bill is passed, prohibiting the production, sale and consumption of alcohol.
If approved in Indonesia, anyone flouting the ban faces 10 years behind bars.
The move affect all of Indonesias 34 provinces, including popular destination Bali, famed for its scenery and nightlife.
Industry experts have warned that the move would effectively kill the tourist trade.
And even if the resort managed to secure an exemption, it would force the price of alcohol to skyrocket.
Haired Sukamdani, of the Indonesian Hotel and Restaurant Association, said: No matter how beautiful the country is, if they cant find alcohol, they [tourists] wont want to come here.
The Idyllic island welcomes around four million visitors each year, including more than 100,000 Brits, and is heavily dependent on the tourism industry.
Read more: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/709831/Bali-alcohol-ban-Islamic-law-tourist-beach-Indonesia?platform=hootsuite
It might make it better for us non-drinkers. We could have the whole island to ourselves.
Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)masmdu
(2,535 posts)Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)bringing economic disaster
RKP5637
(67,083 posts)msongs
(67,347 posts)ErikJ
(6,335 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.
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Skittles
(153,104 posts)ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Cant tempt their pedophile marrying men. Thank the Old Testament for all this shit. Mohammed got most of it from the OT.
Lucky Luciano
(11,248 posts)Megahurtz
(7,046 posts)And all Religion needs to stay out of Government business.
Ford_Prefect
(7,867 posts)or the seemingly intended consequence of destroying Bali's economy. Dry resorts are not as much fun as you might think. As a non-drinker I have seen both.
Without a transition plan and the severity of offending the law being such I doubt Bali will survive at all. You may as well plow under all the hotels and bungalows since there will be no-one to afford living in them or to pay for other services on the island. A lot of people gonna have no jobs there too.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)The Saudis began funding Wahhabi schools all over the place with all their petro wealth 40yrs? ago. Now ISIS is biting them in the butt for it.
Ford_Prefect
(7,867 posts)where there are and have been a multitude of religions and cultures living together for some time.
Pax Victoria may have taken many things from that part of the world but it also left a heritage of common law entitling all.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)They have it there, except their Wahhabist wackos direct their insanity at different things than the middle east wackos.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,262 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,867 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,262 posts)And so I don't know what "but I suppose one extreme begets another?" means, either.
Ford_Prefect
(7,867 posts)see also
http://abcnews.go.com/US/Media/oklahoma-pass-laws-prohibiting-islamic-sharia-laws-apply/story?id=10908521
It was overturned by a federal court in 2013 as unconstitutional. The point remains that religious extremism seems to beget more of the same insanity. As such I suspect Indonesia is in for a period of difficulty and financial decline similar to that in Oklahoma and Kansas where religious dogma has determined public policy much to the detriment of the local economy and the citizens of those states.
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2013/08/16/oklahoma-ban-on-sharia-law-unconstitutional-us-judge-rules/
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Way to bite off your nose to spite your face. Malaysia tried this. . .and Kota Kinabalu is now pretty much dead compared to Langkawi and Penang.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)I was just reading about it tonight what a great place it is.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Redang is great too.
romanic
(2,841 posts)Ugh
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)If the Islamic texts/traditions didn't call for prohibition, there would be no Islamic fundamentalist forcing this view on other people. The deficit is in Islam, not the people who have been indoctrinated into Islam.
Coventina
(27,052 posts)However, when they then create legislation that dictates those beliefs and behaviors to those OUTSIDE of the Islamic faith, we have a major problem.
Democat
(11,617 posts)You may be able to have the whole island to yourself if they ban gays too, but that doesn't make it better.
patsimp
(915 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)would be considered? Wahabists aren't exactly known for pluralism and tolerance.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,315 posts)... as long as the women wear "burkinis".
And, of course, say goodbye to bacon.
Nitram
(22,755 posts)The Balinese are Hindi. Sounds like Javanese Islamic fundies is punishing Bali for being non-Muslim (with an extremely successful tourist trade).
Coventina
(27,052 posts)I seriously believe that the days of vaunted "tolerance" in Indonesia are all but over.
Nitram
(22,755 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)on the Human Rights Council. I know for sure that Saudi Arabia is on it.
christx30
(6,241 posts)including Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Albania, UAE.
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/Pages/CurrentMembers.aspx
Saudi Arabia's membership on the committee makes me question the validity of the HRC.
Coventina
(27,052 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Democat
(11,617 posts)As long as they aren't Christians. That's the way some on DU think.
Nitram
(22,755 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I'd love to see an accurate example of your unsupported allegation, else I might be left to conclude you're simply advancing a position to have something, anything to argue against, which seems a most corpulent waste of time, regardless of what "some on DU think..."
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Coventina
(27,052 posts)Nitram
(22,755 posts)Coventina
(27,052 posts)there is inevitably someone who points to Indonesia as being a tolerant, liberal example of a Muslim-majority country.
It's a pattern that's existed for years.
Nitram
(22,755 posts)Coventina
(27,052 posts)It is racist, misogynistic, and violent to its core.
On edit: Let me clarify that I am speaking here of the philosophy. As individuals, we each decide on our own whether to practice the intolerance taught by our particular belief system (if our belief system teaches intolerance).
Throd
(7,208 posts)EX500rider
(10,798 posts)You mean Islam, which translates as "submission".....where would anyone get that idea....lol...
Today, apostasy is a crime in 23 out 49 Muslim majority countries.
Yes, that sounds very tolerant..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy#Islam
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)is inherently intolerant.
Grey Lemercier
(1,429 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,341 posts)Nitram
(22,755 posts)Oneironaut
(5,479 posts)Anywhere fundie Islam or any other fundie religion touches begins to rot, like a spreading cancer.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"any other fundie religion touches begins to rot, like a spreading cancer..."
Almost as silly as attempting to appease a government, a nation or an economic philosophy... each also being wholly imaginary, faith-based constructs, and each with a shared, final agenda.
Though I realize we each of us maintains the pretense that some imaginary things are somehow more real than others, and base our daily lives on these secular sky daddies as well. Bias requires as much of us.
packman
(16,296 posts)Monday thru Sat. 12 midnight you can get as drunk as you want - come Sunday it's THE LORD'S DAY. No booze sold - get thee to a church and pray. And this is a big step forward for this conservative county because until recently it was dry but the idiots running the county discovered they could make a few dollars more allowing the evil liquid.
EX500rider
(10,798 posts)tymorial
(3,433 posts)You just can't buy. It was this way here in Rhode Island until 10 years ago (or so).
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)they put red cones and tape on the booze aisles (beer and wine) on Sunday with a sign saying "No liquor sales allowed on Sunday".
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)dembotoz
(16,784 posts)can not afford to do much of anything