Clinton: Half of Trump’s supporters fit in ‘basket of deplorables’

[EricMaundry]

Source: Washington Post

Hillary Clinton said Friday that “half” of Donald Trump’s supporters could be grouped in “the basket of deplorables” at a fundraising event in New York City.

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the 'basket of deplorables'. Right?” Clinton said to applause and laughter from the crowd of supporters at an LGBT for Hillary fundraiser where Barbra Streisand performed. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it.”

“And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up,” she added.

Clinton then noted, as she has several times in the past, that Trump has “given voice” to white supremacist and anti-Semitic voices on the Internet.

“He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric,” Clinton said. “Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/09/clinton-half-of-trumps-supporters-fit-in-basket-of-deplorables/

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According to the New York Times, the Trumpies are not amused.

WASHINGTON — The Latest on the 2016 presidential campaign (all times EDT):

12:30 a.m.

Donald Trump's campaign manager is objecting to Hillary Clinton's depiction of half of his supporters as a "basket of deplorables."

Clinton was speaking at an LGBT fundraiser in New York City Friday night when she described those supporters as "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it." But she stressed that the rest of the Republican nominee's supporters are people who feel let down by the government and the economy and are "just desperate for change," and said those people need sympathy.

Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway quickly responded on Twitter, writing, "One day after promising to be aspirational & uplifting, Hillary insults millions of Americans."

Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill tweeted that Clinton was referring to "alt-right" voters who "appear to make up half his crowd."

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/09/09/business/ap-us-campaign-2016-the-latest.html?_r=0

[oberliner]

1. Aspirational and uplifting

That's what Trump's campaign is all about?

[Perseus]

45. Dissagree

Hillary should be trying to win those people, not get them to hate her more. These people are dangerous, get them on your side, that should be the strategy.

[vlyons]

46. The Deplorables

alas they are also irrredeemable. Their moral compass is broken, assuming they ever had one. They are depraved people, motivated by greed, envy, and hatred. They are not happy people. They create immense suffering for themselves and for others. Hey! Let's call a thing, a thing!

[pangaia]

53. Do you know any of 'them?' Maybe so. I don't kow. How many?

How many of trumps 'bad basket' supporters fit this description? I don't know.

[cstanleytech]

88. I do.

My younger brother and two of his friends would fit right into that basket.
Dont get me wrong though, I still love my brother and I understand why he is the way he is since he actually was born with a case of very mild retardation but the other two? One owns and operates a business and the other is a retired military officer and both together have been a bad influence on him.

[pangaia]

139. "retardation?" my goodness..

[cstanleytech]

144. Its very minor it mainly causes him to be easily led astray by people he trusts as well as

he has some problems controlling his temper and can be down right irrational at times but like I said he is still my brother and I still do care for him regardless of the warts I just dont try to talk to him about politics or anything like that as he just will start shouting and ranting.

[pangaia]

145. I haven'y heard the term 'retarded' in decades.

I find it quite offensive.

[cstanleytech]

149. It like many words depends on the context of which its used. nt

[pangaia]

153. I beg to differ with you.

[cstanleytech]

157. Hey, I am not going argue with you because everyone is entitled have their own opinion on things

like my older brother loves hard boiled eggs in his salad where as I just dont care for it.

[vlyons]

121. Yes dear, I do know some, and they are deplorable

I live in rural east Texas, and already, I see Trump yard signs up and down my road. I am surrounded by KKK groups, some of the heaviest concentrations of KKK in the country. These people have not the slightest embarrassment to say the N-word. They want to lynch Muslims and Mexicans and Jews. They call HRC the C-word and B-word. Some want Texas to secede from the union, because they claim the the N-word in the white house wants to take away their guns. There are ugly-minded vulgar people in this country, and they teach their deplorable crap to their children. Home schooling is very big with the crowd.

[cstanleytech]

137. " Home schooling is very big with the crowd." Of course it is since if their kids went to a public

one they might actually learn not to be racist, bigoted assholes.

[vlyons]

154. They don't want their kids socializing with Hispanics and AAs.

Plus they don't want their kids learning anything about evolution, civil rights, or sex education. A lot of them drop out at about 16 or 17 yrs, drink like a fish, and do meth. Very sad.

[pangaia]

141. "dear?" Oh my.

[Siwsan]

128. I know several and they are awful people

They are willfully ignorant and irredeemable. I don't waste my time dealing with them, anymore. Put them all on an island, and before long they'd start turning on each other. Not that I think that would be a bad thing.

[angrychair]

132. Easy

All. Of. Them.

Anyone that self-identifies as a "Republican" isn't worth my time and effort and I couldn't give two shits if they live or die.
The republican/teapublican party are nasty, evil racist self-centered, black-hearted narcissistic assholes. Fuck them.

I am more than willing to change my mind on individuals when they change their mind on their politics.

[pangaia]

140. You " couldn't give two shits if..." any republican... " live(s) or die(s). "?

Wow..

[angrychair]

146. They are welcome to change

More than willing to change my opinion on individuals.
But as an atheist and with LGBT family and friends and family and friends that are people of color, I know that everything about the republican/teapublican party is meant to harm or attack me and those that matter most to me, why should I give a shit about their welfare or opinion of me?

[pangaia]

148. Maybe take pity on them.

[vlyons]

155. The Republican party is a vast criminal enterprise.

[doc03]

152. I know many of them and I would say close to 90% fit that description n/t

[DonCoquixote]

55. I agree

part of the reason these deplorables have been able to do such damage is because some think we need to appease them to survive. As Bill himself knows, you never, ever, ever win these people over, and they see your extending a hand to them as weakness. If Hillary wins, she needs to make it a point to make the GOP have to wear the rotting carcass of it's failure around it's neck, so that it will never be allowed to forget 2016, a year that should do down in INFAMY.

Obama already tried the "malice toward none, charity towards all" thing, and they nearly made him play the role of Abe Lincoln. Hell, we know that if he were shot today, Ann Coulter and Ted Nugent would pop champagne. Now, should be the time where the right finally learns to choke under our heel.

[LiberalFighter]

94. Agreed about the appeasement part.

It is what happened with the Republican Congress appeasing the teabaggers. The Republican leaders didn't have a backbone to stand up to them.

[sarae]

59. These people are never going to vote for Hillary.

They're constantly chanting "Lock Her Up" and making misogynist memes about her – there's no way they'll ever come around. I think she was right to shine a spotlight on them. The media needs to stop normalizing these people; they need to acknowledge that a large percentage Trump supporters are white supremacists and xenophobes.

[Perseus]

78. Maybe not, but you also don't want them to multiply

and every action creates a reaction. In my opinion, it is better to not even acknowledge them, if you trigger their hate even more you are going to pay for it, and we will all pay for it, so leave them alone, let them be, don't encourage their hate more, it will bring undesirable results.

These are not people who think about consequences, just like Trump, they don't think about what can happen or why it happened. In this case I feel the best politics towards those people is to ignore them, with that comment all she did was throw gasoline in the fire, wrong move, and a move at Trump's level, not worth it.

[lucca18]

107. So true.

I can see that's all the Media will be talking about this week; and
not the deplorable statements that Trump has made time and time again.

[William Seger]

151. But they can't talk about it very much

... without mentioning the rather obvious reasons why Clinton said that. That seems to be the desired result.

[Coolest Ranger]

113. You would feel differently

if they right up in your face and calling you the n word all the time

[vlyons]

124. That's why Hitler rose to power in the 1930s.

"Good Germans" stood by and did and said nothing.

[chowder66]

126. They are multiplying anyway and they are already triggered by Trump, his cronies and each other

They certainly are not shy about their hatred and anger.
They are trying to be the new evangelicals, the new tea party or what have you.
They are fair game in my opinion.

If the hateful don't think about the consequences then maybe those that are not hateful will.

The hateful supporters shouldn't be upset about it and should welcome it. This is how they want to be perceived anyway....at least until it hurts them where it counts (trouble with jobs, customers, relationships, law, etc) then some tend to change their tune.
They shout about how proud they are of their hatred of others, their white nationalism, their harmful rhetoric (is it rhetoric?) to kill or imprison the female nominee that has not broken the law. The list goes on against entire races, religions, sexes, it never ends.

I don't think it's a Trump level move. THE Trump level move is to lie about 'entire groups' he has attacked our sitting President and he has done this over and over against nearly all groups. He's throwing hatred (and red meat) out as though they are prizes on a game show and the contestants are glad to compete for those prizes.

Jesus he even insulted uneducated people which some of the haters are and they don't even hear it.

Ignoring them isn't working and this may not either but it could just nudge some less hateful people to pay closer attention.

[cstanleytech]

138. They already do multiply as every year there are more to replace the old ones and there isnt

anything that can he done currently to stop it so we need to cut them off at the knees as far as getting into office and that means the Democrats need to take the gloves off and call out these bigoted assholes hard and fast before they can get into office.

[oberliner]

83. People chanting "Lock her up" and "Trump that bitch" are not going to be won over by Hillary

Not matter what she says or does.

[LiberalFighter]

92. That group is beyond redemption. They will never be on her side.

[Coolest Ranger]

111. It's not going to happen

if you honestly think she's going to win you over let me have what you are drinking. These folks are the pure definition of hate. They hate her, they hate women and they hate black people, FACT.

[treestar]

156. Trying to win those people?

Really?

[ehrnst]

163. In what universe would Trump supporters support Hillary?

Do you think Obama ever won over the hearts and minds of tea partiers?

On the other hand, she now has the opportunity to answer why she said that by re-iterating that Trump attracts the worst of our society, and republicans who can't stand Trump's racism get to hear yet again that they will be casting their lot with a racist.

[Cary]

165. Right. Like that's actually going to happen

The radical right has to die off, as they are doing right now.

[OKNancy]

2. I see some handwringing going on about this comment, but

1. these people wouldn't vote for her anyway
2. every poll and survey of Trump Republicans show it's true
3. as far as I see the comments have energized Democrats.

What I see in my readings around the internet and on twitter, Democrats are very pleased that she is calling out what we all know to be true.

[yallerdawg]

4. Hillary is not giving Trump supporters cover.

You want to support Trump, this is what you support and these are your "people."

[landolfi]

75. THIS ^^^

[LiberalFighter]

97. Agreed. They should never get any cover. They need to be exposed which will mute many of them.

[Coyotl]

5. This is trending #1 and it looks like the wingnuts are dominating the narrative.

But, Trump's troll army cannot dominate the Top News feature on Twitter, and the top news is about a deplorable trump wingnut yelling to a black woman on the subway that niggers should be put back in the fields.

Deplorable Trump supporter yells ‘Put them back in the f-----g fields’ at black woman on subway

[EV_Ares]

23. Your post is right on the mark. Of course there will be some hand-wringing about the remark but

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Trump is a different creature than we have ever seen in campaigns & politics along with those hardcore followers of his. She is right, there is a segment of the population that accepts & loves all of the hateful, racist & unbelievable lies that he spews out daily & so she is correct in what she says. Also, like you said, doesn't matter what he does or says along with what she does or says, they would never vote for her anyway. Of course, she really should just let the trumpsters hate minorities & be racists in peace without having to comment on it.

[LiberalFighter]

96. Agreed. Especially point 3.

[Cary]

166. Yes, yes, yes and yes

There is no reason to go easy on deplorables

[saltpoint]

3. We'll need a bigger basket. I think

the percentage is closer to 'All' than it is to 'Half.'

Arithmetic aside though, HRC nailed it. Trump's supporters behave deplorably and she is completely within zone to call them out for it.

[tavernier]

12. PERFECT!!!

And THAT should be the comeback of all the surrogates on the bobble head shows!

[saltpoint]

13. I love your phrase, "..on the bobble head shows"

and it just hit me that no wonder David Brooks is so incoherent. All that bobbling over so many bobbling years has discombobulated the man. No wonder his mind's such a mess.

[LiberalFighter]

100. I would agree. By minimizing that part it makes it easier for some to reconsider their choice.

If they think they are not in that basket and they don't want to be considered crazy.

[saltpoint]

133. Yes -- I think that's right. Even some

people initially inclined to vote for Trump might want to reconsider if the hit to their self-respect is too great, or if others around them are out front with how much division and violence he tends to incite among his followers.

[SwankyXomb]

6. And when a Trump supporter tells you

they're not part of the deplorables, look them straight in the eye and say, "If you're voting for Trump, then you are."

[LiberalFighter]

102. Exactly.

It should make them wonder why they want to support Trump when he is drawing and supporting the worst in society.

[Abouttime]

7. She's just stating the obvious

And putting it kindly.
Not only are trump supporters deplorable they are also anti-American.
Hillary realizes that she has the weight of the world on her shoulders, the future of our country literally depends on her winning this election.
Voters have a choice this year to either choose making history by electing our first female president or to turn their backs on decades of progress and elect an avowed rascist.

[Augiedog]

8. Kellyanne Conway complains that HRC insults millions of Americans? Well, they need insulting.

They are the dark underbelly of America. Trump has allowed them out into the sunlight where they diminish and embarrass the ideal that is the American hope. Few adjectives do justice to the ugliness that is white supremacy, misogyny, homophobic and religious hate. Insulting them is just a kind form of the justice they truly deserve. I wonder if it's even possible to actually insult people who have no humility in their hate. When they look in the mirror do they see the hate? Or are they truly blind to their own self. Does no sense of honest introspection intrude on their pursuit of an ideology of creepy, nasty, vile and gross ugliness that is a trait of a, sadly, large portion of tRumps followers.

[TexasBushwhacker]

32. Hasn't Trump insulted millions of Americans already? n/t

[Fred Sanders]

36. Well said.

[Lucky Luciano]

9. Glad she called them out without mincing words.

They are worthless.
They are deplorable.
They have no value at all for our society.
They are not capable of learning why they are wrong.
They cannot be redeemed.

[AngryAmish]

30. Deplorable, degenerate and irredeemable.

[femmocrat]

10. Crap.

We understand it, but why give the talking heads and trump surrogates something to gloat about? This will now dominate the Sunday talk shows and give Kellyanne and her ilk a "high horse" to ride in on.

And I went to bed so hopeful last night about the Syrian cease-fire and the halting of the ND pipeline. Not that this is in the same "basket," but I was hoping for an elevation of the discourse today.

I'm going back to bed.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. "why give the talking heads and trump surrogates something to gloat about?"

It's actually not something they are gloating about for some reason. There appears to be certain language - words, terms, phrases, that seem to trigger something outside of my own cultural awareness and this seemed to do it. It's just like the reaction during one of the previous election cycles (can't remember which) where the GOP was very simply called out as "cheaters", and their response was like they touched their own 3rd rail. I wish I could remember what it was...

[femmocrat]

58. I know. It is an alien mindset.

Remember the poutrage over "you didn't build that" and "cling to their guns or religion"? They can get outraged over anything, yet they can hurl the vilest insults and think it is defying "political correctness." They are beyond deplorable-- and Hillary was way too kind.

[BumRushDaShow]

67. "Hillary was way too kind."

Exactly and I think there was careful consideration of what term to use - to me, it is innocuous but boy are they reacting!

Back in 2012 during one of the VP debates, Biden used the phrase - "With all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey". Everyone knew what it meant and it generated all sorts of emotion, and it effectively dismissed everything that Ryan blurted out about what he thought his party stood for with respect to the military.

As another example, I think the word "craven" conveys a significant level of disgust when describing something that goes so low that it almost requires invectives to attack the voracity of what was done or said, without actually using any such type of language. Again - an innocent word but apparently carrying all sorts of meaning that hits to a core.

[vlyons]

51. No! We need to talk about this

Our country, America, needs to do a lot of soul searching about why we have allowed The Deplorables to become so vocal and "normal" in our body politic. We need to have a very serious exploration about the lack of morality in our election process, the corruption of elected officials, and the corruption of government in pursuit of corporate profiteering. The Deplorables have been ginned up with all kinds of fear-mongering and hate-mongering to distract citizens from seeing the real reasons why the middle class is disappearing. I'm glad that Hillary said it.

[titaniumsalute]

14. Umm...no she shouldn't.

Pointing out to the independents and moderate voters that HE is deplorable, as well as his followers, is fine. They are.

[underpants]

15. I disagree. At this point screw them and do so publicly

Romney 47% remark had almost no real impact on the 2102 election. It outed the Republicans for who they are and in the sweetest irony he ended up with just a touch over 47%.

This comment brings more attention to the alt-right and white supremacist element that is Trump's base. It should, in a real world, cause the other half of his supporters to realize who they've cast their lot in with.

[Kathy M]

70. I agree with your whole comment

[underpants]

71. Thank you

[Loki Liesmith]

29. Never apologize

It makes you look weak and creates a narrative around the apology.

[Paladin]

33. Bullshit.

She ought to let the truthful remark stand, and let the national media try to make something of it. That would be the national media, which has held Hillary to an infinitely higher standard than Trump, allowing Trump to spew a non-stop set of hateful comments on a daily basis to his lily-white reactionary base, without any consequence. Her vote loss over this will be undetectable---the voters who are pissed about it were never going to vote for her, anyway. If Chucky Toad wants to clutch his pearls over it on Sunday morning---fuck him. Fuck him, and all the other Trump enablers.

[Zambero]

47. Romney's 47% quip was in a closed meeting with deep-pocket donors

We weren't supposed to hear it, but when we did it confirmed our worst suspicions. Having Hillary put it on the line for all to see and hear is far different. Trump is the master basket weaver for his legion of bigoted basket cases. Yes, many if not most are irredeemable. They do NOT represent true American values, and the drumbeat of ignorance, fear, and hate needs to be called out. Kudos to Hillary for having the courage to say it.

[Kathy M]

68. No , there is no need for Hillary to apologize

[unitedwethrive]

87. Agreed. She and her surrogates should double down on this.

There is a huge component of his base that are some of the worst of our society, trying to hang on to the "America of old" when white men dominated the entire culture.

[stonecutter357]

106. I'm not concerned at all

[Coolest Ranger]

114. Are you kidding me?

I'll get behind that idea when Trump apologizes for every racist comment he's ever made. I don't want these voters no thanks

[DesertRat]

143. No, she shouldn't. And she doesn't need your advice.

It wasn't a slip of the tongue or something surreptitiously recorded at a private event, as in Romney's case. This was a well planned statement that was correct. Half of Trump's supporters DO fit into the category of deplorable racists, white supremacists, etc.

[KALD]

16. I hope she doesn't apologize.. She was telling the truth!

Katy Tur who has followed the Trump campaign for 14 months; last night she talked about how they chant he's a "Muslim" when Trump mentions President Obama. We all know that Trump has a white nationalist running his campaign. We also know that the supporters she's referring to... Hate anyone who isn't a white Christian. People offended by that remark are people who weren't going to vote for her any way and more than likely were the people she's was talking about.

[Mass]

18. Nothing there that Republicans themselves have not said, and I am sure

Conway must have said something similar when working for Cruz.

[Kathy M]

119. Just wanted to add about Conway .... there is a history that started with her husband

Good article , long but good where it shows Conway 's husband George ....

"George T. Conway 3d, a New York lawyer educated at Yale, shared Mr. Marcus's low view of President Clinton. When the Jones case led to Ms. Lewinsky, Mr. Marcus and Mr. Conway searched for a new lawyer for Mrs. Tripp. Mr. Marcus and Mr. Porter helped arrange for Mrs. Tripp to take her explosive allegations to Mr. Starr.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/24/us/president-s-trial-lawsuit-quietly-team-lawyers-kept-paula-jones-s-case-alive.html?pagewanted=all

[Jim Dandy]

19. Looks about right to me

[still_one]

25. Anyone voting for Trump is either a racist, or has racist tendencies. That is the facts

[sarae]

95. These Trumpites that complain about being called racists

are the same people who will argue that "Trump didn't call all Mexicans rapists - just a segment." Why, then, should they have trouble with Clinton's comment about "half of Trump supporters"? She didn't say ALL.

[Botany]

21. Yup!

Look @ this winner w/an 8 8 tattoo on her hand 8 8 is shorthand for
H H or heil hitler

BTW the people Hillary was speaking about would never vote for her
anyway. Fuck 'em.

BTW part 2 I have met some of these folk @ my local bar and the good thing
is many of them aren't registered to vote.

[Pathwalker]

52. Gives special meaning to tRump's "88" Generals, dont you think?

The racists consider it a special shout out to them.

[Botany]

65. What the hell is Trump doing looking @ those rasict / nazi web sites anyway?

I looked @ one that was mentioned in article about Trump and it showed drawings
and pictures of jews being shot by nazis. It was really sick stuff.

pathwalker

[Pathwalker]

105. I thought the "88" generals would get more attention than it has -

it is just too obvious, but the MSM has totally ignored it. It really is sick.

Back at you, Botany.

[LiberalFighter]

108. I have noticed that too about voter registration for these people in my county.

When they post on Facebook. I look them up and find many like that or don't vote often or has been ages. I NEVER mention it or engage them. The hope is that they are too busy and forget to register or vote.

[Botany]

150. I had "one of them" ask me if their driver's license was what they needed to vote and I said yes.

n/t

[Old Vet]

142. Why cant pictures like this go main stream...............

Iam from a bright red area of upstate NY filled with people like this, Who need to be called out on this kind of hate. Don't know where poster got this picture but I intend on circulating it.

[still_one]

22. It is about time someone called it for what it is. The media sure won't. There is a reason the KKK

and other white supremacist hate groups support Trump, because he is racist.

[OKNancy]

24. Context - I see some are doing what I wrote in post #2

stop the hand-wringing and read what she said in context.

[vollehosen]

26. This.

I really wish people would move on past just the one-liner and see the rest of her statement.

[Fred Sanders]

39. Here is hoping the media looks at the entire statement as well, it is a good one.

[nolabear]

42. Exactly. Her people need to keep pounding that. She was actually stating empathy.

The "deplorables" comment was a preamble to a statement about people who were genuinely in trouble and afraid,and who need care and attention. I think she should stick to both points.

[mrsv]

27. Calling them

Like we see them

[still_one]

28. Let's get the full context of the comment

She said that "half the supporters of her Republican rival Donald Trump belonged in a “basket of deplorables” of people who were racist, homophobic, sexist, xenophobic, or Islamophobic."

It is an accurate statement

Now there are some, including some in the media calling for her to apologize. Why don't they ask trump to apologize for his racist, homophobic, sexist, xenophobic, and Islamophobic comments?

[Kathy M]

72. +1

Just wanted to add there is no need for Hillary to apologize , its the truth .

[Kilgore]

31. This hit our morning coffee group like a bombshell

We are split between Trump and Hillary. The election is rarely discussed with everyone settled on a candidate. However this morning started with a Trump supporter asking why they are being branded as "deplorable" Well it was on, our friendly group turned heated.

So in my view the deplorable comment accomplished absolutely nothing but polarize a group of friends. I wish she would have stuck to the issues instead.

[KALD]

44. She said half.

.

[SunSeeker]

49. Sad that this disturbed your coffee clatch, but anyone who supports Trump supports racism.

They need to own that. And how the fuck can you enjoy your coffee schmoozing with a bunch of Trump supporters?

[sarae]

62. I agree.

The next time a Trump supporter says, "According to Hillary, I'm a deplorable," the answer should be, "How long have you been a racist?"

[Demit]

99. You mean none of the deplorable things Trump has said has polarized your group?

Sounds like all you Clinton supporters have let the deplorable things he says all slide. Your "friendly group" was apparently more important to you. But your Trump supporter friend didn't feel quite the same, did he/she?

Instead of blaming Clinton for making the remark, you should blame your "friend" for making it an issue. And think about what it says about yourselves that you all stayed silent about Trump's racism, misogyny, etc. in deference to the feelings of your "friends."

[Wednesdays]

158. Amen

I have a saying about pearl clutchers...now what was it. Let me think...

[LiberalFighter]

109. What is deplorable is what Trump stands for.

If that is all it takes to polarize your group of friends you might need different friends.

[EricMaundry]

35. I agree

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=671&q=david+duke+donald+trump&oq=david+duke+%2B+trump&gs_l=img.1.0.0i8i30k1.1193.11445.0.13890.18.14.0.4.3.0.66.839.14.14.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.16.784...0j0j0i30k1.bGQzGZIHqWo#imgrc=QWKY69n3c2RyGM%3A

[Fred Sanders]

40. I agree. Especially Clinton's appeal to the other half of Don supporters who are not deplorable.

[Loki]

37. It's very simple, really.

If you are offended by "basket of deplorables" #lookinthemirror.

[George II]

38. Only half? I would think it would be a higher number! But....tough luck "Trumpies"!

[sarae]

63. Exactly.

Half is being way too kind. More like ALL Trump supporters. No one's making them support a racist – that's on them.

[Zambero]

41. The basket indeed exists and Trump is their guy

Beginning with his birther campaign, David Duke / white supremacist denials, through Islamophobia and the denunciation of Mexican immigrants as a bunch of criminals, Trump has aided and abetted a drumbeat of fear that has been the centerpiece of his campaign. Let's see Trump come clean and denounce the bigots and say that he doesn't accept their support. Of course that won't happen, because these people are his bread and butter, rancid as it might be.

[Yallow]

43. Hillary Lied! Those Racist Rat Brains Are America - Trump Deplorables

Years of propaganda from Hate Radio and Fox Lies has made an army of imbeciles.

[Iliyah]

76. Come on - LOL

[EricMaundry]

48. WaPo: Who will Hillary Clinton’s ‘basket of deplorables’ comment actually alienate?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/10/who-will-hillary-clintons-basket-of-deplorables-comment-actually-alienate/

[humbled_opinion]

50. Insult the candidate

but when you start to insult the supporters, whether you will win them over to your side or not, you are losing.

[RBInMaine]

61. Be a STRONG progressive. No jelly spining please. The SCUM she referred to would never vote for her.

[humbled_opinion]

69. Oh and those small

undecideds that hear her calling American people racist, homophobes, bigots etc.... Do you even understand how that sounds? You act as if it is an epidemic. Statistics do not support her rant.

[SunSeeker]

82. "Statistics do not support her rant." Wrong. 59% of Trump supporters are racist birthers.

59% of Trump supporters don't believe Obama was born in the US.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/poll-two-thirds-trump-supporters-think-obama-muslim

[SunSeeker]

98. Stop repeating Trump talking points.

So you criticize Hillary accurately stating that half of Trump supporters are racist (59% are birthers) as insulting Trump supporters, but then you insult Hillary supporters by suggesting they're birthers? Um no, Trump is the birther in chief. Hillary had nothing to do with starting birtherism, and Hillary supporters are not birthers, Mr. Berg notwithstanding. Get informed indeed.

[emulatorloo]

120. No offense, but you are full of shit. Take your garbage Trump-surrogate revisionist history

somewhere else; DU isn't stupid, and you aren't a clever as you think you are.

[SunSeeker]

66. When you don't call out racists, you normalize them. It should be shameful to be a racist.

It should be shameful to support Trump. If you support Trump, you support racism. Tip-toeing around that is what has allowed Trump to gain legitimacy. Fuck that shit.

[oberliner]

129. Half of Trump supporters believe Obama is a secret Muslim

Who wasn't born in the United States.

It should not be controversial to acknowledge this as a fact and to not put one's head in the sand about the racist and sexist undertones of his campaign and those who are stoking it.

[Wednesdays]

159. Another pearl clutcher

My, my, how can we possibly go on?

[christx30]

54. Everyone knows who trump is after all this time.

If you can still support him after his "Mexico is sending their rapists" comments, especially if you don't have a problem with it, then you're part of that half Hillary is talking about. If you kind of support him, but are having doubts, then you're part of the other half, and you're redeemable.
Trump doesn't apologize for anything he says, no matter how inflammatory, racist, untrue, or wrong. Hillary shouldn't apologize for pointing out the truth. She needs to double down. If it pisses people off, or makes people uncomfortable, those people wouldn't vote for her anyway.

And as soon as I see a link where Trump apologizes for mainstreaming the birther movement, or his supporters apologize for calling Obama a radical muslim terrorist sympathizer from Kenya, or calling Hillary a lesbian, ect, then I'd agree that Hillary should apologize. But not one second before.

[Yallow]

56. More On Deplorables

More Deploarable OP's - Time To Go To Work

Hillary Not Telling The Truth - Those Racist Homophobic Rat Brains Are America - Trump Deplorables
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512407522#post3

Without Deplorables - Trump Is Nothing - They Existed Before Him
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512407558#post3

I Have An Idea - Maybe We Could Take Mississippi And Alabama.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512407579#post1

[MowCowWhoHow III]

57. Sounds like Clinton tested the phrase/concept at closed door fundraisers

From Politico (4th Sep 2016)

This week Clinton’s campaign is shifting into a get-out-the-vote mode while she also maintains her sideline pursuit of poachable Republicans. Her team will continue touting prominent GOP endorsements: Former California gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman even introduced Clinton at multiple closed-door August fundraisers in California. There, the candidate explained her approach to Republicans interested in Trump, according to one Bay Area attendee. Clinton divides Trump voters into two baskets, she said: the everyday Republicans — her targets — and what she called “the deplorables” — the "alt-right" crowd she excoriates and has no hope of wooing.

Presumably this went over well enough at the fundraisers that it was considered worth the risk of putting it out in the wild.

[Jim Dandy]

60. Bringing the elephant out into the open

The bigot wing of the GOP can now be openly discussed this weekend on all the poli-blab shows.

I really don't see a downside here.

[SHRED]

64. Only half?

BULLSHIT!!

[William769]

73. Hillary Clinton is so wrong on this comment.

It's not half, it's all of them!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

86. +1

[vi5]

74. Only half? That's generous.

I have no issue saying without hyperbole that every single Trump supporter is a racist or at the very least is o.k. with supporting a racist who is advocating racist policies.. There is no other way to look at it.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

77. Is she trying to beat Trump by being Trump?

Generalizing and insulting voters is not going to help her campaign. She might as well say that all Mexicans are rapists.

There will be explanations and backward pedaling, but it was a dumb thing to say. Very Trump-like.

[SunSeeker]

85. What she said was the truth. How is that Trump-like?

59% of Trump supporters don't believe Obama was born in the US, i.e. they're racist birthers.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/poll-two-thirds-trump-supporters-think-obama-muslim

[fleabiscuit]

90. She didn't generalize. She defined the basket.

[oberliner]

93. They are chants calling for her to be arrested and imprisoned

At Trump rallies.

There are t-shirts calling for worse.

There is blatant sexism and racism on display at his rallies.

This should not be ignored.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

104. Ok, so if you can't beat them, join them?

It sounds like she's trying to get into a wrestling match with a pig. We know how that goes.

If she wants to trade insults with Trump-Bros, they will happily welcome her into the mud pit.

[oberliner]

127. Huh?

I am just saying that it is clear to any reasonable observer that there is racism and sexism among Trump supporters.

Are we supposed to pretend there are no racists or sexists in America?

They exist. They are real. To pretend otherwise is foolish.

[Wednesdays]

160. More pearl clutching

Lol, this is like shooting rats in a barrel.

[fleabiscuit]

89. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it.”

She defined the basket.

One could balk and say they do not fit the definition, but it still leaves you in the basket with them if you support Dump.

[Vogon_Glory]

101. A Tisket, A Tasket, Some Trumpies In A Basket

A Tisket, a Tasket, some Trumpies in a basket!

Some of the good guys ought to take this meme and have some wicked fun at Donnie's followers' expense!

[jimlup]

103. I'm glad that she spoke the TRUTH

frankly, people who are offended by this comment are not the people we are trying to sway.

[wisteria]

110. You know, the way they disrespect her, call her all sorts of derogatory names

And chant, lock her up, I have to say, good for her calling them out.

[LynnTTT]

112. and the other half

of Republicans who would like to support Trump also think that half of the supporters are deplorable. It isn't just Democrats who believe this.

[phallon]

115. Did you notice the comment section in WP

Foreign agents?

Source: Washington Post

Check today's comments in WP. FSB paid commenters, probably like "kzic" & "Crask" for example. See their comments under the WP article on Hillary's deplorable statement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/09/clinton-half-of-trumps-supporters-fit-in-basket-of-deplorables/#comments

I think you can see foreign propagandists' comments vs real Republicans by their posts' ability to understand a history book but express no clue as to the "unique" cultural context of American history.

[phallon]

118. HP commenters vs WP

Commenters on HP seem to be pushing back against these paid disinformation commenters.

[Wednesdays]

161. Nah, I think they do all right.

They have the best Russian-English dictionaries at their disposal, after all.

[Rocknrule]

116. She should say "I was being sarcastic"

and watch Trump's hypocritical head explode

[LisaL]

123. And what she meant to say is that they are a basket full of

cuddly kittens.

[Coolest Ranger]

117. I really don't care if the Trumpies are not amused

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/06/the_disturbing_data_on_republicans_and_racism_trump_backers_are_the_most_bigoted_within_the_gop/

Presumptive 2016 Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is a bigot. He wants to ban Muslims from entering the United States, believes that Hispanic and Latino immigrants come to America in order to rape and kill white women, uses anti-Semitic imagery to slur Hillary Clinton, and has been endorsed by white supremacists.

At present, the Republican Party is the United States’ largest white identity organization. There is a mountain of evidence in support of this claim. The Republican Party nurtures and cultivates hostility towards non-whites among its voters for the purpose of electoral gain. What is known as “The Southern Strategy” of racist “coded appeals” against African-Americans and other people of color has dominated Republican politics since (at least) the end of the civil rights movement. And during the Age of Obama, American politics has been poisoned by racist conspiracy theories such as “Birtherism,” lies that Barack Obama is a type of Manchurian candidate who actually hates America and wants to destroy it from within, efforts to rollback the won in blood gains of the Black Freedom Struggle, as well as unprecedented efforts by the Republican Party to abandon its basic responsibilities of governance in order to delegitimize the country’s first black president.

Donald Trump is not an outlier or aberration. In many ways, he perfectly embodies the racist attitudes and beliefs of the Republican Party in the post civil rights era. Likewise, Donald Trump’s supporters have enthusiastically embraced the Republican Party’s racism towards people of color, in general, and against black Americans, in particular.

As reported by a recent Reuters/Ipsos public opinion poll, Donald Trump supporters possess extreme levels — even as compared to other Republicans — of antipathy towards African-Americans:

Supporters of U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump are more likely to describe African Americans as “criminal,” “unintelligent,” “lazy” and “violent” than voters who backed some Republican rivals in the primaries or who support Democratic contender Hillary Clinton, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll.

Ahead of the Nov. 8 election to replace Barack Obama, the first black U.S. president, the poll also showed significant numbers of Americans in both the Republican and Democratic parties view blacks more negatively than whites, harbor anxiety about living in diverse neighborhoods and are concerned that affirmative action policies discriminate against whites.

Republicans in the survey expressed these concerns to a greater degree than Democrats, with Trump supporters presenting the most critical views of blacks.

[SixString]

122. I would think it's more than half.

I would consider anyone who supports him to be deplorable.
Or at the very least, an idiot.

[mwrguy]

125. irredeemable pieces of garbage

Hillary is way too nice.

[MyNameIsKhan]

130. Correct statement 100%

Considering how much Hillary is careful, this is a tested statement targeting to bring more voters on her side than take away...

[Angel Martin]

147. If this was deliberate I'd hate to see a blunder

"Considering how much Hillary is careful, this is a tested statement targeting to bring more voters on her side than take away..."

Any voter who will not vote for Trump because he has white supremacist support has long since made that decision.

this campaign has less than 60 days to go and Clinton just thru away several to an unproductive fight over who is or is not "deplorable".

[asiliveandbreathe]

131. DEPLORABLE is being kind.....

Feigned indignation ain't gonna change our message Kellyanne - feigned indignation - offended?? well Kellyanne - we have been offended ever since drumpf opened his mouth over a year ago - where ya' been!

[Tactical Peek]

134. Tronald Dump speaks for me in this matter:

The only weird part of what Hillary said is that she said "basket" and not "overflowing shit trough".

https://twitter.com/ChrisCubas/status/774649713261891584

[fleabiscuit]

135. Her words really can help frame a conversation...

'OK, you say you are not racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, or Islamaphobic. Then— you name it, what positions of Trump are you supporting?'

The conversation would probably immediately turn to reasons they hate HRC of course. We have to have "good words."

[Zo Zig]

136. What I Don't Understand

For years we progressive s and Democrats, have whined about our candidates taking a knife to gun fight. For once our standard bearer shows up ready to kick ass and not take names.
I say double down, and continue kicking their asses. On November 9th, if dump wins all of us will be through the looking glass and half basketers will be running the country.
Think about that, and WTF it will mean, all of alt-right BS will be an everyday event in the USA.
This is THE HILL, I AM WILLING TO DIE FOR. How about the rest of you?

[MADem]

162. Hurt fee-fees....!

WAAAAAH!!!!!!!!



Boo-hoooooo!!!!!!


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Sob....mean to me...sob!!!!!


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Yeah...they look pretty deplorable to me!

[jmowreader]

164. Half? It's that low?