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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:03 PM

Star Member Hissyspit (40,065 posts)

Dangerous Heat Smothers Third of U.S., Suspected in Deaths

Last edited Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:05 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)

Source: Reuters

Dangerous heat smothers third of U.S., Suspected in deaths

By Tim Ghianni
NASHVILLE, Tennessee | Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:04pm EDT
(Reuters) - Temperatures in the triple digits were causing misery in the eastern and southern United States on Friday, with both Columbia, South Carolina and Nashville, Tennessee reaching all-time records of 109 degrees Fahrenheit.

The heat is suspected in the deaths of three young children.

Marked in pink on a Weather Underground map of the United States, a heat advisory spread like a rash over a third of the country, from Nebraska east to New York and south to Florida.

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As of mid-afternoon, the mercury had hit 105 F (41 Celsius) in Baltimore, Maryland and 108 F (42 C) in Petersburg, Virginia, according to Accuweather.com senior meteorologist John Dlugoenski.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/29/us-usa-weather-heat-idUSBRE85S1HH20120629

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Reply Dangerous Heat Smothers Third of U.S., Suspected in Deaths (Original post)
 Hissyspit Jun 2012 OP
LineReply 3 dead here this week
 proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #1
LineLineReply : (
 Tigress DEM Jun 2012 #6
LineReply Yeaup,...that global warming is a crock,....eh, Zeek?
 Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #2
LineLineReply Didn't you hear the news?
 agent46 Jun 2012 #3
LineReply 109 in South Carolina?
 XemaSab Jun 2012 #4
LineLineReply I remember when 109 was a heat "index", not the real temperature.
 dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #9
LineLineReply My thermometer read 111 today.
 mercuryblues Jun 2012 #30
LineLineLineNew Reply You got the ol' mercury blues then?
 XemaSab Jun 2012 #32
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Yes, yes I do.
 mercuryblues Jun 2012 #39
LineReply So, is Heat Smothers one of the long lost Smothers Brothers? nt
 Javaman Jun 2012 #5
LineLineReply Yes, Some Say He Was The Fall Guy.......
 Grassy Knoll Jun 2012 #10
LineLineLineReply Ahh that explains everything!
 Javaman Jun 2012 #14
LineReply Weird, it's been super-hot in the great plains and front range for about two weeks, off and on...
 TwilightGardener Jun 2012 #7
LineLineReply When the bitching starts this fall about skyrocketing food prices from dead corn, then you'll matter
 NickB79 Jun 2012 #19
LineReply 101 in ga. at 9:30pm
 emilyg Jun 2012 #8
LineReply got to 101 today in SW ohio
 JesterCS Jun 2012 #11
LineReply the new normal nt
 Deep13 Jun 2012 #12
LineReply I live in Nashville and it is HOT and DRY here..bad for our farmers
 sybster1000 Jun 2012 #13
LineReply 112 Phoenix today but only 17% humidity dew point 38 degrees.
 lonestarnot Jun 2012 #15
LineReply No Global Warming my ass!
 Odin2005 Jun 2012 #16
LineReply The republican Party is 100% responsible for the MURDER of these people
 BanTheGOP Jun 2012 #17
LineLineReply That's a real stretch
 NickB79 Jun 2012 #20
LineLineLineReply And you are disagreeing with me HOW??
 BanTheGOP Jun 2012 #21
LineLineLineLineReply The GOP isn't a global phenomenon, is it?
 NickB79 Jun 2012 #22
LineLineLineLineLineReply It's not just the Republicans anyway
 Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #23
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply And how did Chinese capitalism start? Not from Russia or the US Democratic Party
 BanTheGOP Jun 2012 #25
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply The US Democratic party has always been pro-capitalism
 NickB79 Jun 2012 #29
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply It would have happened without the US trade deals with China, though
 Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #31
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply Aside from which
 dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #26
LineLineLineLineLineReply The GOP essentially controls the US capitalist society, which dictates to the world
 BanTheGOP Jun 2012 #24
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply The boom in China's economy can be traced to Clinton's economic initiatives
 NickB79 Jun 2012 #28
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Overton window
 bongbong Jun 2012 #34
LineLineLineLineNew Reply No, what you actually said was....
 PavePusher Jun 2012 #36
LineLineNew Reply It's true. All non-republicans are organic vegans
 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #35
LineReply 'The boys, aged 3 and 5, had been playing outside'
 tawadi Jun 2012 #18
LineReply Hudson Valley isn't too hot..
 otherone Jun 2012 #27
LineNew Reply Interesting fact
 bongbong Jun 2012 #33
LineLineNew Reply Since the world has been both much warmer and much colder in the past.....
 PavePusher Jun 2012 #37
LineNew Reply so hot in DC that the wild storm last night left rain that evaporated in the garden mid-day
 wordpix Jun 2012 #38
LineNew Reply This message was self-deleted by its author
 marryjonesxyz Jul 2012 #40

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:10 PM

Star Member proud2BlibKansan (96,376 posts)

1. 3 dead here this week

One of them was a baby.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:13 PM

Star Member Tigress DEM (7,167 posts)

6. : (

That's sad and it's so awful. People should be able to afford to stay alive.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:14 PM

Star Member Spitfire of ATJ (7,379 posts)

2. Yeaup,...that global warming is a crock,....eh, Zeek?

.....................Zeek?

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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:22 PM

agent46 (859 posts)

3. Didn't you hear the news?

Shell finally admitted that climate change is real and now we're just going to have to learn to deal with it.

We've had forty years to get ready for this.

A crime has been commited against humanity.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:23 PM

Star Member XemaSab (57,411 posts)

4. 109 in South Carolina?

My God.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:25 PM

Star Member dixiegrrrrl (30,829 posts)

9. I remember when 109 was a heat "index", not the real temperature.

and excited news reporters would announce Death Valley had reached 110 degrees...

We had a "heat index" of 114 today.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:27 PM

mercuryblues (934 posts)

30. My thermometer read 111 today.

Last edited Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:29 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

edited because I apparently can't spell when it is hot.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:46 PM

Star Member XemaSab (57,411 posts)

32. You got the ol' mercury blues then?

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:04 PM

mercuryblues (934 posts)

39. Yes, yes I do.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:35 PM

Star Member Javaman (40,644 posts)

5. So, is Heat Smothers one of the long lost Smothers Brothers? nt

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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:29 PM

Grassy Knoll (4,273 posts)

10. Yes, Some Say He Was The Fall Guy.......

for their 60's drug abuse.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:12 PM

Star Member Javaman (40,644 posts)

14. Ahh that explains everything!

Thanks!

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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:14 PM

Star Member TwilightGardener (39,682 posts)

7. Weird, it's been super-hot in the great plains and front range for about two weeks, off and on...

Last edited Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:16 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

100+ just about every day. Seems like it's only a real NEWS story when it affects the east and south. Weather Channel ignored us until after Debby and we caught on fire. Edit to add: I only heard about Duluth from DU. Some parts of the country matter less.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:07 PM

NickB79 (9,406 posts)

19. When the bitching starts this fall about skyrocketing food prices from dead corn, then you'll matter

Until then, we're still considered fly-over states.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:23 PM

Star Member emilyg (22,742 posts)

8. 101 in ga. at 9:30pm

 

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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:42 PM

Star Member JesterCS (919 posts)

11. got to 101 today in SW ohio

expecting 106 tomorrow

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:12 AM

Deep13 (37,259 posts)

12. the new normal nt

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:40 PM

sybster1000 (85 posts)

13. I live in Nashville and it is HOT and DRY here..bad for our farmers

We have a lot of organic farmers and livestock breeders here. It is SO dry, everything that isn't watered is dying. My little organic garden has to be watered everyday. Maybe the rest of the state (Repubs) will wake up. For the first time in ages, the State Congress is primarily Republican and they are wrecking havoc here.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:40 PM

Star Member lonestarnot (71,135 posts)

15. 112 Phoenix today but only 17% humidity dew point 38 degrees.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:08 PM

Odin2005 (48,255 posts)

16. No Global Warming my ass!

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:15 PM

Star Member BanTheGOP (1,029 posts)

17. The republican Party is 100% responsible for the MURDER of these people

The GOP is a heartless, arrogant, destructive bunch of crackheads that create the global conditions that result in such death. We should be looking at banning the GOP through means, using these geohomicide victims as proof at its criminal activity.

Ban the GOP, NOW!!

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:53 PM

NickB79 (9,406 posts)

20. That's a real stretch

These heatwaves are being driven by global warming, and we've been actively adding carbon to the atmosphere for the past couple of centuries since the Industrial Revolution. The warming we're seeing today was essentially locked in decades ago, due to the lag time between carbon emissions and global temperatures.

While the GOP has been stupidly stonewalling on any action to address global warming in recent years, we passed the tipping point years and years ago to stop this. Ironically, we were already probably too far gone before Al Gore even began to address the problem in the mid-1990's. The blame for this falls on human industry and it's use of fossil fuels, of which we all share some blame.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:05 PM

Star Member BanTheGOP (1,029 posts)

21. And you are disagreeing with me HOW??

I have not been saying that the GOP is responsible for the start of global warming. I AM saying that the GOP is 100% responsible for the acceleration and continuation, indeed, the encouragement, of global warming to occur. Fossil fuels and human industry = destructive, republican-Party sponsored geo-terrorism, and until we ban the GOP, we will NOT STOP this soon to be irreversible process.

Had Theresa LaPore rejected the butterfly ballot instead of the more common straight ballot in 2000, we wouldn't even be having this discussion because the temperatures would have been controlled by now from a Gore/Obama presidency reign.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:40 PM

NickB79 (9,406 posts)

22. The GOP isn't a global phenomenon, is it?

Would banning the GOP stop China from pumping out more CO2 per year than the US? Much of the growth in fossil fuel consumption in the past decade has come from developing worlds that are rapidly industrializing with cheap, dirty coal as their primary energy source.

I'm not trying to defend the GOP, and you make many valid points, but there's more to addressing global warming than just US contributions to it. Global warming must be addressed globally, or nothing we do matters in the long run.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:52 PM

Star Member Spider Jerusalem (15,380 posts)

23. It's not just the Republicans anyway

the US accounts for 18.1% of world total CO2 emissions per year; China accounts for 23.2%. But the US per capita share of CO2 emissions is over three times higher than China's (17.5 tonnes of CO2 per person per year vs 5.3, on most recent data). Although when one of the major political parties in one of the world's leading polluters questions the science behind climate change and acts as a barrier to any international agreement or treaty that would have serious effect...then yes, American Republicans have a global impact in this area (since any treaty on climate change agreed by the US would need ratification by the Senate).

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:02 PM

Star Member BanTheGOP (1,029 posts)

25. And how did Chinese capitalism start? Not from Russia or the US Democratic Party

The Chinese have essentially taken a very republican idea and have metamorphosed it to become a huge, giant geo-terroristic threat. Make no mistake, the exportation of republican/corporate greed has become the norm in China today, and hopefully a more socialist government can pull in the reins. We should remind everyone about how China is a vast expanse of planetary wonderment, and should remain so by eliminating republican-capitalist tendencies, hopefully through democratic socialist edict.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:22 PM

NickB79 (9,406 posts)

29. The US Democratic party has always been pro-capitalism

There hasn't been a single serious Democratic politician I can remember who seriously suggested moving the US away from capitalism (despite the overwhelming evidence we need to do so). The Chinese economic boom started under the Clinton administration, and Clinton's economic initiatives with the Chinese played a large part in allowing them to get into the US market in such a huge way.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:37 PM

Star Member Spider Jerusalem (15,380 posts)

31. It would have happened without the US trade deals with China, though

China is a country of more than a billion people with vast and largely unexploited natural resources of coal and other raw materials which was not industrialised until relatively recently; in the 1960's over 60% of Chinese labour was employed in agriculture. The combination of vast population and vast resources with rapid industrialisation and modernisation would have had the same result; if US trade deals with China had any effect whatever it was only to accelerate the timetable slightly.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:07 PM

Star Member dipsydoodle (32,668 posts)

26. Aside from which

the other two contributory factors, La Nina and jet stream blocking. , have been around since the year dot.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:58 PM

Star Member BanTheGOP (1,029 posts)

24. The GOP essentially controls the US capitalist society, which dictates to the world

The GOP normally wouldn't be the world's problem, but in fact there is no comparable destructive regime in world history, and its tentacles reach well beyond the borders affecting how other countries dictate to their own citizens. Without a doubt, if the GOP were not a factor, the rest of the world would be on a more earth-friendly track, and definitely one in which it can be reasonably ascertained the stoppage and reversal of global warming.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:16 PM

NickB79 (9,406 posts)

28. The boom in China's economy can be traced to Clinton's economic initiatives

Last edited Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:19 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Before which, they were small players on the global scene.

And while the GOP has been horrible, the Democrats haven't been much better. For example: http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/06/29/508585/blm-auctions-720-million-ton-north-porcupine-coal-tract-to-single-bidder-for-110-a-ton/

The Obama administration’s Bureau of Land Management auctioned a major tract of Wyoming coal to Peabody Energy at a bargain-basement price of $1.10 per ton yesterday.

The North Porcupine coal tract in the Powder River Basin went to the single bidder, Peabody subsidiary BPU Western Resources, for $793,270,310.80 for 721 million tons, BLM representative Beverly Gorny stated in a telephone interview.

This sale, made under the provisions of the Mineral Leasing Act of 1920, represents a massive fossil-fuel subsidy based on the assumption that the use of coal benefits the American public. However, it is likely this coal is intended for the Asian market, where sub-bituminous coal fetches a much higher price. The non-competitive leasing program is under federal investigation.


And then there's this: http://grist.org/coal/fighting-coal-export-terminals-it-matters/

Sure enough, there are six new coal ports (PDF) proposed for the West Coast: Coos Bay, the Port of Morrow (near Boardman), and Port Westward in Oregon; Longview, Bellingham, and Grays Harbor in Washington. If they are all built, the Pacific Northwest will export over 150 million short tons of coal a year, making it one of the world’s largest coal export regions.


The GOP didn't invent capitalism; they just took it to the extreme. Even the most liberal Democrats only propose a kinder, gentler form of capitalism that still places the need for unlimited economic growth above the planet's biosphere. Even without the GOP, we'd be fucked by global warming, though maybe not quite as badly as we are now. Like I said, we're ALL to blame in this.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:21 PM

bongbong (5,436 posts)

34. Overton window

 

It IS the repig's fault, since they drag the Overton Window to the right, and also refuse to even consider policies that aren't something that Hitler could love.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:00 PM

PavePusher (15,374 posts)

36. No, what you actually said was....

 

Last edited Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:02 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

The republican Party is 100% responsible for the MURDER of these people


and then this:

the temperatures would have been controlled by now from a Gore/Obama presidency reign.


...is pretty much delusional. No political party can control weather temps in the here and now. We may be able to have an effect on the temps 50 and 100+ years from now....

There are plenty of things to blame on Republicans without actually looking so foolish as to make shit up in defiance of reality and science. That's their job.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 08:18 PM

4th law of robotics (6,801 posts)

35. It's true. All non-republicans are organic vegans

 

that make their own compost, live off the grid, and don't have any sort of a carbon impact. Like say by owning a computer or using electricity to post on the internet.

So it's entirely republican's fault.

Also no foreigners produce carbon at all.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:21 PM

tawadi (1,994 posts)

18. 'The boys, aged 3 and 5, had been playing outside'

Where was the adult?

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:15 PM

otherone (365 posts)

27. Hudson Valley isn't too hot..

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:19 PM

bongbong (5,436 posts)

33. Interesting fact

 

This was in another thread on DU...

Some scientist (or other "edumacated elitist librul") said that if you were born after 1985, you'll never experience a "normal" climate.

The repig anti-life assholes will blame global warming on "evil libruls", mark my words.

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:05 PM

PavePusher (15,374 posts)

37. Since the world has been both much warmer and much colder in the past.....

 

please cite the conditions/time periods that comprise "normal".

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Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:10 PM

wordpix (12,478 posts)

38. so hot in DC that the wild storm last night left rain that evaporated in the garden mid-day

Completely dry in the garden after the storm but the veggies are still going strong.

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