Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:34 PM
maddezmom (130,846 posts)
Darrell Issa Puts Details of Secret Wiretap Applications in Congressional RecordLast edited Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:52 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)
Source: Roll Call
June 29, 2012, 12:06 p.m. In the midst of a fiery floor debate over contempt proceedings for Attorney General Eric Holder, House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) quietly dropped a bombshell letter into the Congressional Record. The May 24 letter to Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), ranking member on the panel, quotes from and describes in detail a secret wiretap application that has become a point of debate in the GOP’s “Fast and Furious” gun-walking probe. The wiretap applications are under court seal, and releasing such information to the public would ordinarily be illegal. But Issa appears to be protected by the Speech or Debate Clause in the Constitution, which offers immunity for Congressional speech, especially on a chamber’s floor. According to the letter, the wiretap applications contained a startling amount of detail about the operation, which would have tipped off anyone who read them closely about what tactics were being used. Read more: http://www.rollcall.com/news/darrell_issa_puts_details_of_secret_wiretap_applications_in_congressional-215828-1.html this is probably the reason they held the vote as they knew DOJ wasn't going to prosecute. Slimey asshats. updated with GOP nonsense: Fast and Furious: GOP says wiretaps revealed 'Gunwalking' early on The Justice Department approved the wiretap application on March 15, 2010. It includes a lengthy affidavit giving details of the case. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) contends that was enough to alert anyone who read it that a massive amount of "gunwalking" was going on. The affidavit describes in detail how ATF agents had surveilled multiple suspected gun traffickers for Mexican drug cartels, but made no arrests or interdictions. Previously, Holder had testified that the wiretap application gave no hint of gunwalking. "Contrary to the Attorney General's statements, the enclosed wiretap affidavit contains clear information that agents were willfully allowing known straw buyers to acquire firearms for drug cartels and failing to interdict them-in some cases even allowing them to walk to Mexico. In particular, the affidavit explicitly describes the most controversial tactic of all: abandoning surveillance of known straw purchasers, resulting in the failure to interdict firearms," says Issa. Issa's counterpart on the House Oversight Committee, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), today took issue with the idea that the wiretap application disclosed any hint of gunwalking. He says Issa is "hiding key information" from the very same wiretap documents. "Sadly, it looks like Mr. Issa is continuing his string of desperate and unsubstantiated claims... His actions demonstrate a lack of concern for the facts, as well as a reckless disregard for our nation's courts and federal prosecutors who are trying to bring criminals to justice. We're not going to stoop to his level," said a Cummings spokesman. more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57464139-10391695/fast-and-furious-gop-says-wiretaps-revealed-gunwalking-early-on/
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| maddezmom | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| nahant | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| Dakota Flint | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| Botany | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| EFerrari | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| tblue37 | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
| MADem | Jun 2012 | #21 | |
| iconocrastic | Jun 2012 | #22 | |
| Botany | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| bupkus | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| cstanleytech | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| bupkus | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| cstanleytech | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| bupkus | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| DallasNE | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| pscot | Jun 2012 | #26 | |
| lolly | Jun 2012 | #27 | |
| shanti | Jun 2012 | #28 | |
| EFerrari | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| FreeBC | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
| SoutherDem | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
| kitt6 | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
| southernyankeebelle | Jun 2012 | #17 | |
| maddezmom | Jun 2012 | #18 | |
| southernyankeebelle | Jun 2012 | #20 | |
| Coyotl | Jun 2012 | #24 | |
| Smilo | Jun 2012 | #19 | |
| MrScorpio | Jun 2012 | #23 | |
| ThoughtCriminal | Jun 2012 | #25 |
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:37 PM
nahant (74 posts)
1. Darrell Issa
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Is nothing but a Capo for the Rich... Al Capone would just love him....
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:42 PM
Dakota Flint (68 posts)
2. Let me get this straight
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So if some congressman during WWII had inserted documents concerning the Manhattan Project or details for the D-Day invasion into the Congressional Record that would have been perfectly legal?
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Response to Dakota Flint (Reply #2)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:49 PM
Botany (36,053 posts)
5. Before D-Day Dwight Eisenhower arrested one of his generals and had him ....
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.... sent back to the States because he was talking about the invasion in a
pub in London. BTW welcome to DU. Please remember the secret DU handshake and only use it when needed. ![]() |
Response to Botany (Reply #5)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:12 PM
EFerrari (163,986 posts)
12. Eisenhower was a remarkable man, before, during and after his presidency. n/t
Response to Botany (Reply #5)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:22 PM
tblue37 (11,702 posts)
15. Huh?! All this time I thought we were supposed
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to use "jazz hands" as our secret handshake. Imust have looked so goofy shaking my jazz hands at every DU person I met!
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Response to tblue37 (Reply #15)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:49 PM
MADem (86,124 posts)
21. Who knew? I thought it was "High five, man alive! Down low, way to go!"
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Could it be a regional thing.
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Response to Dakota Flint (Reply #2)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:10 PM
iconocrastic (631 posts)
22. Have you read the contents of the wiretap application?
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:43 PM
Botany (36,053 posts)
3. darrell is gonna get people killed
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the Mexican drug gangs are brutal and you know they have already looked
@ the Congressional record. BTW this is also why A.G. Holder could not give Issa all the papers he wanted because their is an ongoing criminal investigation. Cheney and Rove outed Plame and her contacts were put at risk and some might have be killed and now this crap? Bottom line Issa is un-American. |
Response to Botany (Reply #3)
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Response to bupkus (Reply #4)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:50 PM
cstanleytech (5,316 posts)
6. Now here you would be correct except it looks like he used the legal protection congress enjoys
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to get away with it atleast as far as prosecuting him goes though I wonder if congress could censure him for it not that that repairs the damage.
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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #6)
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Response to bupkus (Reply #8)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:59 PM
cstanleytech (5,316 posts)
10. Yup kinda like Cheney with Plame. nt
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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #10)
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:51 PM
DallasNE (2,960 posts)
7. Issa Has Engaged In Selective Redacting
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Disclosing the accusatory accusations but redacting the response. As Chairman, he is allowed to do this but it is highly inappropriate. And it says nothing about the lax gun laws in Arizona that permits these straw purchases and the inability to get attorney's to accept the cases.
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Response to DallasNE (Reply #7)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:55 PM
pscot (13,931 posts)
26. All we have is Issa's interpretation
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of the DOJ memos. Do we trust Daryl Issa? Not really.
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Response to DallasNE (Reply #7)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:02 PM
lolly (3,023 posts)
27. So, it's kind of a James O'Keefe type thing?
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Selective editing to make something look like the opposite of itself?
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Response to DallasNE (Reply #7)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:44 PM
shanti (16,658 posts)
28. EVERYTHING that issa does
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is inappropriate. he got our former DEM governor, gray davis, recalled on false pretenses, and we were stuck with arnold. what kills me is that he keeps getting re-elected! he's pondscum, just ask us californians!
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:57 PM
EFerrari (163,986 posts)
9. I sincerely hope this @sshat gives himself enough rope to hang one of these days. n/t
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:16 PM
FreeBC (365 posts)
13. delete me
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Last edited Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:17 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) nevermind - wrong issue
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:16 PM
SoutherDem (2,151 posts)
14. So Issa is above the law?
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This dirtbag is unbelievable.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:37 PM
kitt6 (346 posts)
16. Lock him up!
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And send his hair dye with him.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:38 PM
southernyankeebelle (10,725 posts)
17. I don't understand what this secret letter is suppose to show and how it works against the
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DOJ. Can someone explain it alittle simpler for me.
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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #17)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:52 PM
maddezmom (130,846 posts)
18. just updated my OP, here is a link from CBS
Response to maddezmom (Reply #18)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:48 PM
southernyankeebelle (10,725 posts)
20. I just say F it and let the chips fall where they may. But I would make sure I would
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start back when it was with the Bush administration. Lying bastards.
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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #17)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:33 AM
Coyotl (5,159 posts)
24. Arizona laws don't allow officials to do anything about the problem. Thank the NRA and the Rs.
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The problem is that AZ is controlled by a bunch of gun nuts who don't permit control of guns.
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Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:09 PM
Smilo (1,886 posts)
19. Issa the crook just
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showing that he has no scruples, morals or ethics.
Disgusting turd. |
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:59 PM
MrScorpio (55,317 posts)
23. Is Darrell Issa on the payroll of the Mexican drug cartels? nt
Response to maddezmom (Original post)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:27 PM
ThoughtCriminal (9,797 posts)
25. Congressional Immunity should not preclude ethics investigation
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Even if he can avoid prosecution, at a minimum he should face a reprimand. Won't happen as long as the GOP controls the house, but Democrats should at least make the demand.
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