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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:15 AM

Walker Refuses to Implement Health Law

Source: Associated Press

Walker refuses to implement health law

The governor insists the law will be repealed after Republican victories in November's elections.


Posted: Friday, June 29, 2012 12:00 am
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MADISON, Wis. -- Gov. Scott Walker pledged again Thursday not to phase in any parts of President Barack Obama's signature health care reform law ahead of November's elections even though the U.S. Supreme Court ruled it is constitutional.

Walker, a Republican, has said he holds out hope the GOP will recapture the White House and gain full control of Congress and repeal the legislation. He reiterated his stance Thursday minutes after the court released its ruling.

"While the court said it was legal, that doesn't make it right," Walker said at a news conference. "For us to put time and effort and resources into that doesn't make a lot of sense."

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"Ignoring federal laws in hopes that someday they will be repealed is ridiculous and irresponsible policy making," said state Rep. Kelda Helen Roys, D-Madison, who is running for Congress. "Walker, who falsely calls for increased bipartisanship, is once again pursuing his extremist policies at the expense of Wisconsin families."

Read more: http://www.thonline.com/news/iowa-illinois-wisconsin/article_10069c13-f0df-545d-909d-a85bf16d81f1.html

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Hissyspit Jun 2012 OP
Tx4obama Jun 2012 #1
bupkus Jun 2012 #2
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #13
SWTORFanatic Jun 2012 #26
Tx4obama Jun 2012 #69
Luciferous Jun 2012 #61
4dsc Jun 2012 #3
INdemo Jun 2012 #23
bupkus Jun 2012 #51
no_hypocrisy Jun 2012 #4
Lisa D Jun 2012 #5
EFerrari Jun 2012 #7
mopinko Jun 2012 #34
EFerrari Jun 2012 #64
Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #38
lukkadairish Jun 2012 #20
RKP5637 Jun 2012 #28
perdita9 Jun 2012 #6
Suji to Seoul Jun 2012 #10
nxylas Jun 2012 #11
sybylla Jun 2012 #19
stlsaxman Jun 2012 #24
tomp Jun 2012 #25
sybylla Jun 2012 #54
eowyn_of_rohan May 2013 #73
asjr Jun 2012 #30
bupkus Jun 2012 #12
Vinca Jun 2012 #8
Scootaloo Jun 2012 #9
Drale Jun 2012 #55
secondwind Jun 2012 #14
SnowCritter Jun 2012 #15
madrchsod Jun 2012 #16
SHRED Jun 2012 #17
rtracey Jun 2012 #18
Katashi_itto Jun 2012 #21
eaglesfanintn Jun 2012 #22
Odin2005 Jun 2012 #27
Great Caesars Ghost Jun 2012 #57
Arkana Jun 2012 #29
Lindsay Jun 2012 #31
The Wizard Jun 2012 #32
RKP5637 Jun 2012 #33
pinto Jun 2012 #35
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SemperEadem Jun 2012 #42
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still_one Jun 2012 #46
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A Simple Game Jun 2012 #62
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Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #63
The Stranger Jun 2012 #65
eowyn_of_rohan May 2013 #72
The Stranger May 2013 #74
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:31 AM

1. If I lived in Wisconsin I think I'd be thinking of moving out of there ASAP :) n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:47 AM

13. Wrong move.

Liberals should move into bastions of Conservatives and outnumber them.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:09 AM

26. I'm leaving as soon as my partner finishes college.

But seriously, you are thinking Wisconsin is bad when you live in Texas? I know some parts of the state like Austin aren't too bad but really?

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Response to SWTORFanatic (Reply #26)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 04:34 PM

69. Well sometimes when I've been up all night drinking rum and coke I post goofy things at 5:30am :) nt

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:13 PM

61. My husband was offered a great job opportunity in Wisconsin, and

turned it down because he says there's no way in hell he's living in Walker country

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:20 AM

3. A notice for all union members who voted for Walker

You get what you deserve.

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Response to 4dsc (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:57 AM

23. .....Maybe a little off topic

but I agree with you and I will add this..any union member that votes for a Republican should not be allowed to carry a union card...period

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:28 AM

4. Writ of Mandamus?

The applicant pleading for the writ of mandamus to be enforced should be able to show that he has a legal right to compel the respondent to do or refrain from doing the specific act. The duty sought to be enforced must have two qualities: It must be a duty of public nature and the duty must be imperative and should not be discretionary. Furthermore, mandamus will typically not be granted if adequate relief can be obtained by some other means, such as appeal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandamus

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:32 AM

5. The Nebraska governor said the same thing.

Last edited Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:17 AM - Edit history (1)

This is nothing but political posturing for the November election. Both of these idiots know the law won't be repealed. They just want to foster belief among voters that it will be repealed if you just vote Republican

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Response to Lisa D (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:37 AM

7. There are groups that have been fundraising on repealing Obamacare.

They don't want those donations to stop coming in.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:17 AM

34. winner

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Response to mopinko (Reply #34)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:21 PM

64. One of them is Abramov's little friend

Ralph Reed. That's the level of slimeballs writing scare ads for seniors to watch in the middle of the night. They are appalling. I actually wrote to the Gospel Music Channel and complained -- because Reed targets Christians. I told them I liked their channel and they shouldn't run ads for someone who took millions from Abramov and bilks people of faith.

They were nice and explained that it is the local cable/sat vendor who decides which ads to run on that channel. And they said they would look into it anyway.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:38 AM

38. no matter how fucking brain dead their donors are...

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Response to Lisa D (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:43 AM

20. Damned Good Post

100% Real Talk. In other news, Walker Once Again Refuses to Refrain From Dumbassery

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Response to Lisa D (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:14 AM

28. So did the Kansas governor brownback. All a pack of damn fools. n/t

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:33 AM

6. I thought Badgers were smart...

and yet a majority put this fool into office.

Oh well, you get what you vote for.

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Response to perdita9 (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:39 AM

10. They had a chance to recall him, but apparently they just LOVE the fucking they are getting so much

that they kept him.

Sorry Wisconsin. . .while some of you are smart, you voted in Walker and voted out Feingold.

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Response to perdita9 (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:39 AM

11. Not necessarily

You get what the black box voting machines say you vote for.

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Response to nxylas (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:41 AM

19. There are no black box voting machines in WI

We definitely got what we voted for here. And I truly believe it will get a lot worse before the knuckleheads who think this is just the cheese get their heads out of their asses.

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Response to stlsaxman (Reply #24)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:08 AM

25. thank you. very enlightening and as i expected. nt

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Response to stlsaxman (Reply #24)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:14 AM

54. Not really all that enlightening.

Everyone acts like no one ever verifies the tabulators in this state, when they actually get verified every election cycle through audits and through recounts. We had a statewide recount last year. As an observer fully aware of the potential for flipping votes, I willingly stood over the tabulators as the clerks fed the ballots through and manually counted the votes at the same time. So did observers in nearly every other county. There was not one report of a tabulator flipping votes.

Imagine that.

We've had local recounts in the county I live in every election year (spring, fall and recall) and stil, no tabulators got the tally wrong.

Imagine that.

We're in the middle of a recount in one of the state senate races now. Do you think if a tabulator had totally fucked up tabulating that the losing GOPpie candidate wouldn't be screaming bloody murder? Or the winning Dem for that matter?

Really, all the conspiracy stuff without out evidence just numbs the public to real potential threats.



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Response to sybylla (Reply #19)

Sun May 26, 2013, 09:47 AM

73. LOL -- Nearly ALL voting equipment in WI is Black Box

Black box voting signifies voting on voting machines which do not disclose how they operate such as with closed source or proprietary operations.

all electronic voting equipment that has a memory card or prom pack is black box, including optical scan machines.

Very disturbing that the people overseeing our elections are so ignorant....

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Response to nxylas (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:16 AM

30. Exactly!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:38 AM

8. Good. If he cedes implementation to the feds we're one step closer to single-payer.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 07:38 AM

9. Making the people of Wisconsin suffer, to push a partisan agenda

And not even attempting a semblance of subtlety about it, either.

I commend the people of Wisconsin for their patience, in not storming the Governor's mansion with torches and pitchforks.

...But I wouldn't say a single peep of criticism if that patience broke. Just saying.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:19 AM

55. I don't know

a good "Storming of the Bastille" as it were might just scare the shit out of Walker and his Minions enough to get them to leave the state. I'm not talking about killing anyone just scaring them a bit.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:19 AM

14. I bet he has done so much hanky-panky with the books in WI, that he is afraid to implement



ANYTHING.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:25 AM

15. Hey, Scotty...

"Walker, a Republican, has said he holds out hope the GOP will recapture the White House and gain full control of Congress and repeal the legislation. ..."

Hope in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:33 AM

16. walker has a problem with the feds and his governorship

if he does`t play ball the feds can screw his medicaid payments. another issue he`ll face is the hospital industry in wisconsin will have his ass if he screws with obama`s healthcare plan.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:36 AM

17. He thinks he's "King Scott Walker"

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:39 AM

18. Well, there you go

Sorry, Wisconsin, but I am tired of hearing about you. I do feel sorry for you, so sorry that as an outsider, I still donated to your recall effort, but it was not enough. I do hope in the next election, you can have Walker rejected. Any union person who voted for him, may you stew in your own pot, and good luck in the unemployment line.

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Response to rtracey (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:46 AM

21. Agree, sympathetic to our own out there. The rest can go to hell.

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Response to rtracey (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:54 AM

22. Well said

I gave as well. Living in Tennessee, I have no hope of getting rid of the GOP asshats infesting our capital, but I thought at least Wisconsin could get out from under Walker. It's too bad they wasted the opportunity to make things better there and I do feel for those that worked hard to repeal that tool.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:11 AM

27. These dipshits think they can ignore federal law.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:14 AM

29. Sorry, Scott. The feds will set up the exchange even if you refuse.

Wisconsin will move forward without you.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:16 AM

31. Makes me think that ALEC

or whatever heart of darkness group that replaces it already has plans in the works. And as always won't hesitate to implement them, legally or not.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:17 AM

32. The people of Wisconsin have spoken

Now they're getting what they voted for. Tough shit.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:17 AM

33. Maybe, just maybe some americans will eventually wake up and realize

the republican sociopathic assholes they elect into office, but I have my doubts. Much of the American electorate is pretty damn stupid when it comes to voting.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:18 AM

35. Good answer from Rep. Roys.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:21 AM

36. I do fear the citizen's united "Obamacare tax plan" meme is

going to do some MAJOR damage.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #36)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:48 AM

42. I don't

because the plain truth of the matter is: repealing it will explode the deficit and that's the one thing they do not want hung around their party's neck. ACA gives tax breaks to those who already have health care coverage, so their returns will be larger. Those who don't get it will have the tax return they're already getting. They will be basically increasing their own taxes by being obstinate.

Their grandparents who now have the doughnut hole closing up, those whose up to age 26 yr old kids on their policies, those who have pre-existing conditions (and who of them doesn't, really?), those who have seriously ill children-- they're going to go back to and be happy and content with what was in place before? They're really going to go without? They're really going to welcome financial ruin at the hands of a medical condition? They're really going to toss their adult kids off their insurance? They're going to be ok with the insurance company telling them while they're seriously ill that they no longer have insurance? I highly doubt that.

So, for them to even speak of it is them saying "we're going to blow the deficit up even more than what's there now when we get control of congress and the white house" is them reading their own death sentences.

Fact is: the pressure needs to be kept on the thugs over their blatantly and obscene waste of time and taxpayer money pursuing their wet dream of making Obama a one term president. Every scheme they've put in place failed. They have the lowest approval rating in history for a sitting body in congress.

Anything grounded in fear has no hope of a good outcome.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:34 AM

37. Protect the wealthy at all costs

The plutocracy owns this guy.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:41 AM

39. Wisconsin wanted the bastard, so they can deal with it...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #39)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:17 AM

46. and he won by a substantial margin which is pathetic /nt

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #39)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:41 PM

59. I'm from there but I agree. Elections have consequences.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:45 AM

40. stupid voters.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:47 AM

41. As a former Wisconsinite, I echo others' shrugs. Sympathy for

those on our side who have no choice, but voters have had plenty of opportunity to keep him from office, and that's who they want.

So he and his irresponsible behavior are your problem now.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:11 AM

43. Well...

...Wisconsinites let him stay....


so boo hoo hoo...

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:13 AM

44. are there any penalties? is this grounds for impeachment? To a large degree what were the people

Wisconsin thinking when they voted in these rethugs?

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Response to still_one (Reply #44)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:47 AM

50. WI voting for sound bites

Walker had 30 million to 4 million for his opponent. There were back to back ads on TV for Walker. That does make a difference as many people, not only Wisconsinites, only hear the sound bite and get no further info. We worked damn hard but were vastly out spent. I do hate it that so many stupid people live in Wisconsin.

I counsel my grandkids to get a college education that will be useful in another state or country.

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Response to HelenWheels (Reply #50)

Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:23 PM

70. There are a lot of misinformed people in a lot of states, and a lot of people in those state will

suffer until they recognize what is happening

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:15 AM

45. Ohio is trying to pull the same crap.

Kasich and his Lt Gov are balking stating no way do they have the money for this. We'll see but in the meantime it's interestingto watch these republican babies throw tantrums. Sheesh

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:43 AM

47. I'm going to use that one in court!

Next time I get pulled over for speeding. I'll just say, "I firmly believe that speed limit will go up the federal government stops controlling my freedom, so there's no reason for me to comply with the law right now."

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Response to momrois (Reply #47)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:38 PM

66. That's not going to work unless complying with the speed limit is optional in your state

As has been pointed out several times, states aren't required to set up exchanges; if a state chooses not to do so, the federal government will step in and set it up.

I'm not defending Walker in any way, shape or form. Wisconsin, and all states, should be going forward to set up their exchanges because its the right thing to do. But it doesn't really look good when some people here display their lack of familiarity with the ACA.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:44 AM

48. I don't think they realize


That now that it's passed, refusal to implement it could defeat Republicans in November. There's a time where the general public, including Independents, begins to say, it's over, let's get on with it.

Then again, they're going to put about a billion dollars into this election.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:44 AM

49. Shit like this should carry heavy penalties... nt

 

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 10:56 AM

52. 7% Difference, and they're back in

America, but for now they're fu_ked.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:03 AM

53. He must be sure Republican money will buy the election like they did his!

If money can buy the Presidency it will be a sad day! I guess time will tell but, in the meantime I'm working as hard as I can to get Obama re-elected and give him the Congress he needs.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:23 AM

56. these states should be told if they don't implement the LAW, they're not getting federal money for

whatever it is they need the $ for.

tit for tat, governors.

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Response to wordpix (Reply #56)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:39 PM

67. That isn't going to work, particularly after yesterday's decision on medicaid expansion

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:19 PM

58. But he sure took plenty of Citizens United money....

What an asshole....

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:51 PM

60. Sue...nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:26 PM

62. Is it time to throw one of these guys in jail?

sedition (sɪˈdɪʃən)

n

1. speech or behavior directed against the peace of a state

2. an offense that tends to undermine the authority of a state

3. an incitement to public disorder

4. archaic revolt

Number two seems to be a nice fit.

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Response to A Simple Game (Reply #62)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:42 PM

68. Please familiarize yourself with the law

There have been several threads on DU about states refusing to establish exchanges. WHile I think that's a stupid decision on the part of those states, its not unlawful. The ACA is quite clear in making the establishment of exchanges by the states optional -- if the states choose not to do so, the federal government steps in and does it.

I find it emabarrassing that so many here appear to be so unfamiliar with the details of the ACA (even as many here decry the fact that the many of those in the general public who oppose ACA don't understand it)

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:01 PM

63. What a dickweed.

Thanks for the thread, Hissyspit.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:10 PM

65. And to think they couldn't recall this piece of shit.

He lost. His side lost. Everyone voted, and they lost. They tried to challenge it, and they lost.

What the fuck is wrong with Wisconsin?

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Response to The Stranger (Reply #65)

Sun May 26, 2013, 09:43 AM

72. WTF is wrong with those who refuse to wake up to the fact that our elections are being hacked...

stumbled on this thread looking for impeachable offenses committed by Walker. Just enrages me that there are so many who are not paying attention to election integrity issues....

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Response to eowyn_of_rohan (Reply #72)

Wed May 29, 2013, 03:21 PM

74. Probably so.

It is hard to get hoi polloi to pay attention to election fraud, for some reason.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:46 PM

71. I am still waiting for the headlines...

SCOTT WALKER APPOINTS HIMSELF EMPEROR OF WISCONSIN.

Goman na hitoga kirada. (I hate arrogance)

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