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Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:06 PM

Fast And Furious: Issa No Longer Suspicious Holder Knew Of Gunwalking

Source: Talkingpointsmemo.com

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“During the inception and the participation through the death of Brian Terry, we have no evidence nor do we currently have strong suspicion” that Holder knew of the tactics, Issa said during testimony before the House Rules Committee on Wednesday.

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Issa also said he had no specific knowledge that the White House knew of the gunwalking tactics and said the committee wasn’t looking to the president.

Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), ranking member of the Oversight Committee, butted in as Issa was being questioned by Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO).

“We are now about to find in contempt the attorney general of the United States of America after you just heard that,” Cummings said.

“Sure,” replied Issa. “It’s not for what the attorney general knew about Fast and Furious, it’s about the attorney general’s refusal to provide the documents.”

Read more: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/fast_and_furious_issa_holder_contempt_gunwalking.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

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Reply Fast And Furious: Issa No Longer Suspicious Holder Knew Of Gunwalking (Original post)
Grassy Knoll Jun 2012 OP
liberal N proud Jun 2012 #1
Kteachums Jun 2012 #2
clang1 Jun 2012 #3
randome Jun 2012 #4
clang1 Jun 2012 #5
maddezmom Jun 2012 #24
CatWoman Jun 2012 #26
hlthe2b Jun 2012 #31
PavePusher Jun 2012 #34
DFW Jun 2012 #6
Marie Marie Jun 2012 #7
clang1 Jun 2012 #8
Major Nikon Jun 2012 #10
lsewpershad Jun 2012 #11
JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #28
JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #30
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Grassy Knoll Jun 2012 #9
Marie Marie Jun 2012 #14
madrchsod Jun 2012 #12
clang1 Jun 2012 #13
LineLineLineReply .
Grassy Knoll Jun 2012 #15
CatWoman Jun 2012 #27
RC Jun 2012 #32
Iliyah Jun 2012 #16
Alcibiades Jun 2012 #17
clang1 Jun 2012 #18
clang1 Jun 2012 #19
clang1 Jun 2012 #19
clang1 Jun 2012 #21
Carla in Sequim Jun 2012 #22
Champion Jack Jun 2012 #23
maddezmom Jun 2012 #25
Wait Wut Jun 2012 #29
progressivebydesign Jun 2012 #33

Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:08 PM

1. So are they calling off the witch hunt?

I doubt FOX will drop the subject, bigger than Watergate.


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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:14 PM

2. Worms on a hook!

They are threading their own hooks. If it began under Bush? If they continue I hope it blows up in the Republican faces. The American people are getting tired of these tactics. They know what a do nothing Congress we have. Real people are beginning to question whether they should have salaries.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:15 PM

3. NOW. He wants something

 

OTHERWISE he would not have SAID this....


Watch what they do first, THEN listen to them..

PEOPLE BETTER CONSIDER VERY WELL WHATEVER IT IS THAT HE WANTS. BECAUSE EVEN THAT WILL PROBABLY NOT BE HONEST.


THIS IS HOW IT WORKS PEOPLE. WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THE CORRUPTION. THAT IS A FACT.














Meanwhile.....The Progression continues....


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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:19 PM

4. It's only one blink.

But it's still a blink.

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Response to randome (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:20 PM

5. IT IS NOT A BLINK

 

UNDERSTAND THAT. THEIR EYES DO NOT BLINK. UNDERSTAND THAT. EVIL NEVER BLINKS ITS EYES. AT ANYTHING.

THE WORLD SAY THIS. PEOPLE NEED TO CALL TYRANNY WHAT IT IS. IT NEVER SHUTS ITS EYES TO WHAT IT WANTS.
UNDERSTAND THAT. THERE IS A REASON WHY OUR COUNTRY EXISTS.....NEVER FORGET THAT.
TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE FORGOTTEN WHY....AND NOW WE ALL SUFFER BECAUSE OF THIS. THE WORLD SUFFERS.














Meanwhile....The Progression continues.....

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Response to clang1 (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:27 AM

24. could you please stop with the all caps

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #24)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:30 AM

26. LOL!!!

Clang is certainly an excitable one

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #24)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:51 AM

31. ditto on that...

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Response to clang1 (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 07:50 PM

34. FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK, STOP SHOUTING AT ME!!!! n/t

 

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:28 PM

6. Translation:

"We've got nothing. But we sure as hell aren't going to admit it after making such a public effort to get him. We're going to drag this out until the election. Then, either it goes away or we do. It won't matter any more."

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:29 PM

7. Say it with me:

Issa is an Asshole. Oh, and a criminal.

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:32 PM

8. More than just those things n/t

 

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:54 PM

10. I prefer to think of him as a threat to democracy

The other two things are minor by comparison.

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:58 PM

11. +1

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:39 AM

28. And - he is also a person who voted FOR

H.R.6028 as a member of the 110th Congress.



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:H.R.6028:
H.R.6028 Latest Title:
Sponsor: Rep Berman, Howard L. (introduced 5/13/2008) Cosponsors (4)
Latest Major Action: 6/11/2008 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Received in the Senate and Read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations.
House Reports: 110-673 Part 1


List of Yeas and Nays:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll393.xml
There were 311 Yeas. Issa's is in the second column - 30th name down.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #28)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:44 AM

30. Here is a good summary

Of how the Meridia Initiative and Project Gun Runner came to be at Daily Kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/21/1101851/-2008-Darrell-Issa-Voted-YES-to-Fund-Project-Gunrunner-Merida-Initiative


The media is frustrating me by not nailing Issa's feet to the floor on that vote. One of two things - either he didn't know/read the bill prior to voting (i.e. - His freaking job) - or he knew but thought it would go differently.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:43 PM

9. .

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:26 PM

14. Perfect.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:09 PM

12. the boy who cried wolf........

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:19 PM

13. The WOLF is still there

 

AND LIKE WOLVES DO, IT WILL CONTINUE TO BITE THINGS. IT IS ONLY NATURE. AND IT IS HOW THE WORLD IS.

FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THIS...AND THE WOLF WILL EAT YOU. THAT IS ITS PURPOSE. TO EAT. AND WHY SHOULDNT IT? THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. A WISE MAN KEEPS THE WOLF OUT OF HIS POLITICS. HE KNOWS THE WOLF CAN TURN ON HIM AT ANY TIME AND EAT HIM. SO HE KEEPS THE WOLF WHERE IT BELONGS. IN NATURE OR IN A CAGE. ITS A WOLF...







Meanwhile....The Progression continues....

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Response to clang1 (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:27 PM

15. .

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:31 AM

27. !!!!!

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:13 AM

32. WHO CARES?

 

i CAN'T gET eXCITED oVER iT!

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:46 PM

16. But they are still going forward with the contempt?

Document? Please provide with Cheney, Issa, Rice, Powell, and the rest. Provide them, and don't black out information.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:20 AM

17. I do think it may be over for Issa and the railroaders

http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/27/fast-and-furious-truth/

Fortune systemmatically dismantles the claims of Issa and others. He may well be stalling to see how this plays out, but I'd be surprised if he has the balls to go forward now.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:36 AM

18. WHEN DID THE VIOLENCE BEGIN IN MEXICO?

 

WHEN DID THE VIOLENCE BEGIN IN MEXICO?



WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS VIOLENCE? El Presidente CALDERON DOES. WHO ARE HIS FRIENDS?


WHEN DID THE VIOLENCE BEGIN IN MEXICO? WHEN HE WAS ELECTED. SO YES.....THERE IS THE PROBABLE ANSWER.


WHAT DOES EVERYONE KNOW ABOUT THE ELECTIONS THAT JUST HAPPENED IN MEXICO A FEW YEARS AGO?

THEY WERE CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SEE THE OBVIOUS. ALWAYS THINK AND SEE. YOU WILL BE AMAZED BY IT ALL. I AM.



THIS PEOPLE IS THE ANSWER.....LOOK AT THE TIMING. IT IS TREASON.

LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE BEFORE...LOOK AT HISTORY.

THIS IS MY TAKE ON THE MATTER. IT IS WHAT IS OBVIOUS TO ME.

THING IS NO MATTER HOW I LOOK AT IT, IT IS ALL THE SAME. BECAUSE IT IS. PERIOD.

IT DESTABILIZES COUNTRYS AND KILLS PEOPLE. AND THAT IS THE POINT.


CONSIDER ALL THE PARTIES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED....WHAT HAVE THEY ALWAYS DONE?

THIS VIOLENCE WAS MEANT TO DESTABILIZE MEXICO. MEXICO ALREADY KNOWS THIS, THAT IS WHY THEY RAISED A DIPLOMATIC COMPLAINT ABOUT IT.






Meanwhile....The Progression continues....

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:07 AM

19. THE REAL QUESTION PEOPLE NEED TO ASK IS WHY IS THE NRA INVOLVED IN GUN VIOLENCE THAT IS DESTABILISIN

 

IS WHY IS THE NRA INVOLVED IN GUN VIOLENCE THAT IS DESTABILISING MEXICO?



THAT IS THE QUESTION.













Meanwhile....The Progression continues....

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:07 AM

19. THE REAL QUESTION THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE ASKING

 

IS WHY IS THE NRA INVOLVED IN GUN VIOLENCE THAT IS DESTABILISING MEXICO?



THAT IS THE QUESTION.













Meanwhile....The Progression continues....



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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:08 AM

21. THE REAL QUESTION IS PEOPLE NEED TO ASK WHY IS THE NRA INVOLVED IN GUN VIOLENCE THAT IS DESTABILISIZ

 

IS WHY IS THE NRA INVOLVED IN GUN VIOLENCE THAT IS DESTABILIZING MEXICO?



THAT IS A QUESTION. THE CONGRESS NEEDS TO ASK ISAA THIS.













Meanwhile....The Progression continues....

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Response to clang1 (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:03 AM

22. And the next question is...

Why are you using caps?

I responded to one of your other posts attempting to get you an answer. But please, calm down. You are making me nervous.

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Response to Carla in Sequim (Reply #22)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:23 AM

23. lol

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Response to Carla in Sequim (Reply #22)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:30 AM

25. ^^^^^this^^^^^

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:40 AM

29. Shorter version, ...

Issa, "We know this is bullshit, but we can at least try to get one black guy out of the WH since we can't get the other one out. He's also picking on racists to make sure brown people can vote and can stay in this country legally. It's making the GOP look bad."

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:35 PM

33. Issa said early on that his ONLY goal was to take Obama out of office by looking for a scandal.

He serves no other purpose. He is NOT serving his constituents in the least. He is an attack dog.

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