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Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:08 PM

 

Hoyer: Some Dems Will Vote To Hold Holder In Contempt For Fast And Furious

Source: CBS DC

WASHINGTON (AP) — Now that the politically potent National Rifle Association is keeping score, some Democrats may join House Republicans if there’s a vote to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress in a dispute over documents related to a botched gun-tracking operation.

The chief Democratic House head counter, Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, declined to tell reporters how many defections he expected, but acknowledged that some in his party would consider heeding the NRA’s call for a “yes” vote.

The gun owners association injected itself last week into the stalemate over Justice Department documents demanded by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. The NRA said it supports the contempt resolution and will keep a record of how members vote.


Read more: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/06/26/hoyer-some-dems-will-vote-to-hold-holder-in-contempt-for-fast-and-furious/

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Reply Hoyer: Some Dems Will Vote To Hold Holder In Contempt For Fast And Furious (Original post)
zoechen Jun 2012 OP
bluestateguy Jun 2012 #1
harun Jun 2012 #10
onehandle Jun 2012 #2
BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #3
clang1 Jun 2012 #4
Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #5
clang1 Jun 2012 #8
Zoeisright Jun 2012 #6
bongbong Jun 2012 #7
Iliyah Jun 2012 #9
clang1 Jun 2012 #11
graham4anything Jun 2012 #12
clang1 Jun 2012 #16
Odin2005 Jun 2012 #13
blackspade Jun 2012 #14
Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #20
grandpamike1 Jun 2012 #15
xxqqqzme Jun 2012 #17
JackHughes Jun 2012 #18
Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #19
clang1 Jun 2012 #21
Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #24
MsPithy Jun 2012 #22
coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #23

Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:12 PM

1. NObody outside of the Beltway gives a flying shit about this

And I include the NRA as part of that Beltway bubble; they are headquartered in D.C.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:40 PM

10. lol, got that right.

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:14 PM

2. Fuck the National Republican Association. nt

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:14 PM

3. The NRA needs to go. Too much corporate power that leans rightwing

is corrupting the Democratic Party. What in the hell is a private corporation doing issuing licenses for guns anyway?

When they can go around and openly promote Republicans while scaring Democrats, that means they've outlive their usefulness and have become just another corporate entity.

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:20 PM

4. What side are they on is what I ask myself?

 

How does the NRA become more important than your own Party

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002862622


ALL of this is part of the Tyranny that is occuring here.....ALL of it.









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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:22 PM

5. The NRA is keeping track...well so are some voters like myself......

 

I think voters need to punish Democrats that vote with the Republicans on this one. While I am generally happy that the Democrats are not a single unified body, always moving and voting as a block, there are some votes such as this one where deviation from a NO vote should never be tolerated.

Until Democrats learn there will be a price to pay for this kind of treachery they will continue to do it. I realize some of them are concerned that the NRA and their friends (Koch Brothers) may set their sights on them during a re-election campaign but to that I say, "grow a pair".

From what I can see there is insufficient basis for charging the AG with contempt. This is trumped-up charge raised for purely political and not governmental or oversight purposes.

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Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:30 PM

8. Yes they do and it is all Treachery

 

and Tyranny...
They go together...............

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:28 PM

6. Wusses.

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:29 PM

7. Where are the DU gun-religionists on this issue?

 

Crickets?

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:32 PM

9. The NRA is more important than the American people

and thats fucking sick!

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:43 PM

11. Yes they are n/t

 

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:44 PM

12. audit the NRA

 

audit the NRA and follow the trail then take away their tax free exemptions

that taxfree money alone probably would balance the budget (ditto organized religion)

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:14 PM

16. Shut them down before you can't shut them down.

 



It is that simple.

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:55 PM

13. Unfortunately the NRA can make or break a rural politician.

Defying the NRA is political suicide in many rural areas.

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:56 PM

14. And this is the exact reason why the beltway media can keep this story going.

If Democrats would stay firm as a block for once, this story would die.
That is how things worked during the Bush years.
By making this a 'bipartisan' contempt citation, these Democtatic defectors are continuing to support what is effectively a partisan witch hunt.
If it resolved down to a party line vote, the Democratic leadership could just call it what it is and the story would die.

Honestly I could give two shits about this whole affair. It started under Bush and is a continuation of this misguided drug 'war' that has been a decimating anchor weight on our society.
THAT should be the story, not this bullshit 'Fast and Furious' debacle.

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Response to blackspade (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:13 PM

20. +1

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:09 PM

15. Maybe it is time

to purge the Congress of ALL DINO's. I cannot get much worse than this. Spineless Dems make me cringe, they cower and grovel before Republican threats, and now they will vote against eric Holder because the NRA is going to score the vote. The NRA is about 4 million strong and they get to dictate policy ? Scary, to say the least. For me, it is getting very close to NOT voting, let the Republicans take over the house, senate and Presidency, and let the morons who vote them in for their version of "Change", suffer the after effects, of lower pay, no medical coverage, Social Security being privatized, longer work days and shorter vacations, if at all. I am fed up with electing the morons that fill the Congress and the Supreme Court.

This is what the Right wants, and I am prepared to let them have it.

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:40 PM

17. Between corporations,

billionaire donors, norquistian pledges and the nra threats, there appears to be no room for 'We, the people'.

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:55 PM

18. Primary those Blue Dog Dems

Any Dem that gives cover to Issa and the Republicans should be told to expect a well-funded primary challenge supported by President Obama.

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:07 PM

19. Fucking Cowards! Why are they Democrats, anyway?!?!?!

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:44 PM

21. Because they probably are not Democracts

 

Watch what people do, not what they say. Pretty simple to me..People need to watch both and they don't until it is to late. Either fix it now or later. Only choice NOW, is to fix it later. People probably will not even do that. It's sad. But that is also the way the World is. I myself don't loose sleep over it. I see what it's about.



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Response to clang1 (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:40 PM

24. I hear you. ;)

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:35 PM

22. I can not imagine a more valid test for STUPID!

This, as an undercover operation, as a scandal, as a conspiracy theory, this as anything other than an embarrassing failure is so goddamn stupid, it hurts!

Anyone who votes to censure Holder (who I think is almost worthless as a Attorney General) passes the most profound test for Stupid, ever. I am predicting unanimous for Republicans.

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Response to zoechen (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:38 PM

23. I know the Democratic Party touts its 'big tent' quality, but when

 

can we start calling those who cross party lines 'scabs'?

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