HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » This message was self-del...

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:16 AM

 

This message was self-deleted by its author

This message was self-deleted by its author (bupkus) on Fri Sep 28, 2012, 08:59 PM. When the original post in a discussion thread is self-deleted, the entire discussion thread is automatically locked so new replies cannot be posted.

13 replies, 1864 views

Thread informationRemove bookmarkTrash this thread

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread

Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:27 AM

1. Republicans can sure govern can't they....

Christie threw away hundreds of jobs with his transit boycott.

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Historic NY (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:02 AM

2. I would guess it was actually thousands of trades jobs

 

And plenty of money spent locally for materials and support services.

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Historic NY (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:36 AM

7. Not really a great argument

 

unemployment rates by state show that it's a mixed bag.

DC, CA, RI, are all worse than NJ. And I would hesitate to label them conservative.

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm/

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:16 PM

8. And I wouldn't say we are 2nd best because of all the conservatives.

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 05:42 AM

13. It is a reasonable thing if you compare comparable states over time

A little more than a year ago, I wanted to prove that NJ was not really growing its economy better then the rest of the country - as our governor was saying. As I have a background in analysis, I tried to think of a fair way to test Christie's Republican actions vs Democratic actions.

The best way was to compare NJ's unemployment vs that of comparable state over time. The state I chose was MA - both have good schools, are affluent, but with some older economically troubled towns, and both have many jobs in finance and research. Looking at the unemployment rate from 2009 onward, MA and NJ have in recent years really moved in opposite directions - where in 2009 and 2010 - the year Christie came into office at the end of the year and the next year when we were under the Corzine budget for most of the year, both MA and NJ were high - around 9 or 10 percent for each in 2009, and both about a half a percent lower the next year. Since then, MA has gone to about 6% and NJ is back up to 9.1%.

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:15 AM

3. Gee, the governor sure is creating those jobs!



Of course this whole teabagger scam was never about job creation to begin with. It was more about controlling Vaginae and giving the 1% more money.

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:23 AM

4. Christie figures if he just bellows out lies loud enough, it makes it the truth.

Too bad people fall for this tactic from the Republicans.

Like Reagan cutting taxes, that one almost everyone still thinks is true, although he did the exact oposite.

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:28 AM

5. even the mob is laying people off... n/t

 

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:24 AM

6. The Christie Miracle. nt

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:11 PM

9. Mulshine: "Chris Christie's transportation bond bill: Read it and weep."

Last edited Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:53 PM USA/ET - Edit history (3)

http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/2012/06/chris_christies_transportation.html

Chris Christie's transportation bond bill: Read it and weep

Published: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 8:19 AM Updated: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 3:39 PM
By Paul Mulshine/The Star Ledger


Back when he was a candidate for governor, Chris Christie characterized his predecessor’s penchant for borrowing as “unconscionable.” He promised his policy would be “We should go pay-as-you-go with current budget funds.” So I was shocked last week when I got a call from George Humphris of Toms River.

<...>

That was Christie’s campaign promise to let New Jerseyans vote on all future bonding. The bill in question would permit the state to borrow $3.4 billion to refill the Transportation Trust Fund - without a referendum on the November ballot.

<...>

I thanked Humphris for the call and promised I’d read the bill in question. I called up bill S-2020 ( http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bills/BillView.asp ) on my computer and read all 24 pages. I read it again. And again.

I couldn’t make the slightest bit of sense out of it. It had been a long day. The next morning I put on a pot of coffee and read the bill again. I still couldn’t penetrate the prose, so I put in a call to Steve Lonegan.

He’s the former Bogota mayor who unsuccessfully challenged Christie for the GOP gubernatorial nomination back in 2009. Lonegan has been obsessed with out-of-control borrowing since the administration of the first governor named Christie. In 2000 he filed a lawsuit to stop the Whitman administration from bonding without voter approval. That suit failed but a later suit was a success. And then in 2008 voters passed a constitutional amendment banning bonding without voter approval.

I read Lonegan passages from the bill like the one that created a “Subaccount for Prior Bonds” and a “Subaccount for Debt Service for Transportation Program Bonds.”

“What the heck?” he said.

I read him the passage about how the revenue would come from a tax “amended by section 18 of P.L.1992, c.23, and repealed by section 56 of P.L.2010, c.22 and now imposed pursuant to 1 section 3 of P.L.2010, c.22 (C.54:39-103)1.”

“Huh?” he said.

On Thursday morning I drank an extra cup of coffee and headed for Trenton. Once there, I ordered another cup of coffee and pulled the bill up on my laptop. I showed it to legislators and to lobbyists. Not a single one could figure out the dodge that made this borrowing legal.

<...>

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bupkus (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:27 PM

10. things are looking up up up in Mobile, Alabama

 

Cannot reply in locked threads

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to may3rd (Reply #10)


Response to may3rd (Reply #10)