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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:49 PM Jul 2016

Leaked DNC emails reveal secret plans to take on Sanders

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Source: The Hill

July 22, 2016 - 02:21 PM EDT

Leaked DNC emails reveal secret plans to take on Sanders

BY ELLIOT SMILOWITZ AND JOE UCHILL 9621 Shares
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Top officials at the Democratic National Committee (DNC) privately planned how to undermine Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign, according to a trove of emails released by WikiLeaks on Friday.

The Sanders campaign had long claimed the DNC and Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz had tipped the scales in favor of Hillary Clinton during the party’s presidential primary.

- snip -

The email does not name the Vermont senator, but it talks about a man of “Jewish heritage” Marshall believes to be an atheist. It makes reference to voters in Kentucky and West Virginia, two states that were holding upcoming primary elections.

“It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist,” the email says.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/288900-leaked-dnc-emails-reveal-secret-plans-to-take-on-sanders

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Leaked DNC emails reveal secret plans to take on Sanders (Original Post) Hissyspit Jul 2016 OP
Fucking vile. davepc Jul 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #13
We don't even know if they're real. And the timing of release was designed to help TRUMP. pnwmom Jul 2016 #50
Golly gee. Talking about how to get at your opposion. Who would have guessed! riversedge Jul 2016 #2
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #14
Not even close NWCorona Jul 2016 #20
Truth puffy socks Jul 2016 #22
I stand by my post. NWCorona Jul 2016 #27
DNC rules, designed to ensure all candidates get a fair shake in presidential primaries, state, “The Hissyspit Jul 2016 #24
interesting, the writer is probably correct, an atheist would never win. I'm satisified with our pri Sunlei Jul 2016 #3
FUCK THAT! Moostache Jul 2016 #31
I don't see that the poster implied being ok with religious tests for office. Demit Jul 2016 #45
I am so sick of this atheist stance trixie Jul 2016 #38
I'd vote for an atheist. But I've read that an atheist would have trouble gaining votes. Sunlei Jul 2016 #51
Here'e the full quote, and source: SeattleVet Jul 2016 #64
Another hit piece by the Hill. riversedge Jul 2016 #4
No one here has any interest in this. It doesn't serve any purpose of theirs. Donald Trump is a bad floriduck Jul 2016 #5
I have an interest in it. babylonsister Jul 2016 #16
I'm here. Hissyspit Jul 2016 #19
not LBN...its a blog post lol nt msongs Jul 2016 #6
you noticed that also. still_one Jul 2016 #29
I believe the OP breaks the rules, no matter how you feel about it. truthisfreedom Jul 2016 #7
An OP about this has already been removed earlier today. George II Jul 2016 #10
Amazing that some of the rec's are members at another site. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #30
Apparently they also leaked the names of expat donors and personal info, inc. credit card info. nolabear Jul 2016 #8
The first one mentioned in the "article" is from May 21, after more than 3/4 of the pledged... George II Jul 2016 #9
Thanks for the information. You have a good eye.--so the emails are real but the riversedge Jul 2016 #26
I don't even know if the emails are real, it is wikileaks don't forget. George II Jul 2016 #40
stop doing Putin's work for him ericson00 Jul 2016 #11
Wow. It's like it's politics Blandocyte Jul 2016 #12
Good I hope we get more. runaway hero Jul 2016 #15
Long time, no see tk2kewl Jul 2016 #17
Huh. Are people under the impression that the DNC can't take sides in a primary? Recursion Jul 2016 #18
DNC rules, designed to ensure all candidates get a fair shake in presidential primaries, state, “The Hissyspit Jul 2016 #23
... tk2kewl Jul 2016 #34
JPR! sheshe2 Jul 2016 #48
You do know... tk2kewl Jul 2016 #60
I think that has something to do with the fact that the DNC has stated that they don't /didn't favor NWCorona Jul 2016 #25
Using a Jewish person's religion against them ALWAYS pisses me off. CharlotteVale Jul 2016 #42
It's Sanders's religious ambivalence that is discussed in the email, not his actual religion. annavictorious Jul 2016 #52
Well, that makes me feel better. Hissyspit Jul 2016 #63
Just imagine if they had decided to back humbled_opinion Jul 2016 #55
hissyspit has kahonayes HR_Pufnstuf Jul 2016 #21
Putin is behind these leaks, because he wants the moron Trump elected, apcalc Jul 2016 #28
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Jul 2016 #32
They never for a minute thought a socialist could beat whomever the GOP ran against them. Rex Jul 2016 #33
1 email is a secret plan MattP Jul 2016 #35
lol bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #36
1 bad email the rest is DWS bitching about bad press MattP Jul 2016 #37
great op, transparency is democratic, thank you and wikileaks larkrake Jul 2016 #39
Can't wait till they release humbled_opinion Jul 2016 #56
I dont see anyone sending wiki those larkrake Jul 2016 #58
This is the most disgusting thing I've read today. And that's saying a lot. CharlotteVale Jul 2016 #41
The U.S. Supreme Court is at stake................... turbinetree Jul 2016 #43
You do realize that the primaries are over? Loki Jul 2016 #44
Yes, the primary is over. Do you know if the class action suit against the DNC is over? HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #47
It was a leave. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #49
Assuming these aren't fake, why did Wiki leak these NOW? Looks like they're trying to help Trump. pnwmom Jul 2016 #46
Exactly, what proof do we have. None. Loki Jul 2016 #59
Well I just have to say... humbled_opinion Jul 2016 #53
oh good god.... chillfactor Jul 2016 #54
Um.. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is of "Jewish heritage" question everything Jul 2016 #57
It is a big deal, and it was a shitty thing to do. luxpara4 Jul 2016 #61
There might even be an email somewhere gwheezie Jul 2016 #62
There might be, but we haven't seen it luxpara4 Jul 2016 #65
Locking Chemisse Jul 2016 #66

davepc

(3,936 posts)
1. Fucking vile.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jul 2016

Response to davepc (Reply #1)

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
50. We don't even know if they're real. And the timing of release was designed to help TRUMP.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jul 2016

The emails happened in May.

riversedge

(70,200 posts)
2. Golly gee. Talking about how to get at your opposion. Who would have guessed!
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jul 2016

Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
20. Not even close
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jul 2016
 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
22. Truth
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:16 PM
Jul 2016

Sorry it upsets you.


NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
27. I stand by my post.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jul 2016

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
24. DNC rules, designed to ensure all candidates get a fair shake in presidential primaries, state, “The
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jul 2016

DNC rules, designed to ensure all candidates get a fair shake in presidential primaries, state, “The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and even-handedness during the Democratic Party Presidential nominating process.”

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
3. interesting, the writer is probably correct, an atheist would never win. I'm satisified with our pri
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jul 2016

primary.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
31. FUCK THAT!
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jul 2016

There is no, I repeat NO, religious test to hold office in any capacity for the United States of America.

Implying that you are OK with excluding atheists from office, do you also support Republicans pressing their religious agenda on the seating of SCotUS justices? or the Yam's idea of allowing preaching and campaigning to retain tax-exempt status?
Are you A-OK with bans on Muslims too? After all, who cares about religious tests as long as its not YOUR belief, right?

The explicit endorsement of excluding atheists from elective office is odious and well beneath what I would expect to find here.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
45. I don't see that the poster implied being ok with religious tests for office.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jul 2016

Or excluding atheists from office. You are reading far too much into his/her post. The poster was merely making an observation that, in some communities in this country, people —the voters, not the government—prefer their candidates to be churchgoers.

Lighten up. Be a little more cordial, please, or you might find yourself alerted on for taking such a belligerent tone.

trixie

(867 posts)
38. I am so sick of this atheist stance
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jul 2016

There is no Santa Claus! I prefer to be labeled a realist.

If you are a Christian then you would be an atheist to all other religions, I just add one more - yours.

Famous quote but can't find the exact wording or author to give correct ownership. Yikes!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
51. I'd vote for an atheist. But I've read that an atheist would have trouble gaining votes.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jul 2016

Personally, I wish we had a real separation of church and state. Religious discussion not a part of our government at all, state, local and federal.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
64. Here'e the full quote, and source:
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jul 2016

"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
...Stephen F Roberts

And his page explaining the origin:

http://freelink.wildlink.com/quote_history.php

riversedge

(70,200 posts)
4. Another hit piece by the Hill.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jul 2016
 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
5. No one here has any interest in this. It doesn't serve any purpose of theirs. Donald Trump is a bad
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jul 2016

guy. That matters.

babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
16. I have an interest in it.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jul 2016

I don't want shit shoveled under a carpet because it does or doesn't favor someone.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
19. I'm here.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jul 2016

I'm interested.

Yeah, Donald Trump is a bad guy.

msongs

(67,399 posts)
6. not LBN...its a blog post lol nt
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jul 2016

still_one

(92,183 posts)
29. you noticed that also.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jul 2016

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
7. I believe the OP breaks the rules, no matter how you feel about it.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jul 2016

I know how I feel about it as well, but I still believe that this post is DIVISIVE and must go.

So get rid of it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. An OP about this has already been removed earlier today.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jul 2016

sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
30. Amazing that some of the rec's are members at another site.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jul 2016

Yet this was allowed to stay. Hmmm.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
8. Apparently they also leaked the names of expat donors and personal info, inc. credit card info.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jul 2016

I don't know what they're trying to do, but it sounds deliberate and aimed at Hillary.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. The first one mentioned in the "article" is from May 21, after more than 3/4 of the pledged...
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jul 2016

...delegates had already been determined. Plus, the Kentucky and West Virginia had already voted by that time.

This looks like yet another phony story by wikileaks.

riversedge

(70,200 posts)
26. Thanks for the information. You have a good eye.--so the emails are real but the
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jul 2016

story is made up.

George II

(67,782 posts)
40. I don't even know if the emails are real, it is wikileaks don't forget.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:40 PM
Jul 2016
 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
11. stop doing Putin's work for him
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jul 2016

by trying to elect Trump, which is what putting anti-HRC hit pieces does.

Blandocyte

(1,231 posts)
12. Wow. It's like it's politics
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jul 2016

Imagine that. Not surprised.

runaway hero

(835 posts)
15. Good I hope we get more.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jul 2016

DNC has lost 3 elections in a row. Time to clean house. Hillary winning will be the first non Obama victory since 2006(!!!)

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
17. Long time, no see
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jul 2016

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
18. Huh. Are people under the impression that the DNC can't take sides in a primary?
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jul 2016

They generally have before. Funny how this year it pisses people off...

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
23. DNC rules, designed to ensure all candidates get a fair shake in presidential primaries, state, “The
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:16 PM
Jul 2016

DNC rules, designed to ensure all candidates get a fair shake in presidential primaries, state, “The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and even-handedness during the Democratic Party Presidential nominating process.”

sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
48. JPR!
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jul 2016

Congrats on your post. LOL!

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
60. You do know...
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:08 PM
Jul 2016

Rules are for other people

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
25. I think that has something to do with the fact that the DNC has stated that they don't /didn't favor
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jul 2016

a particular candidate in this race.

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
42. Using a Jewish person's religion against them ALWAYS pisses me off.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jul 2016

This email is beyond gross and disgraceful, and there is simply no way to spin it.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
52. It's Sanders's religious ambivalence that is discussed in the email, not his actual religion.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jul 2016

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
63. Well, that makes me feel better.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jul 2016

Not.

It stinks.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
55. Just imagine if they had decided to back
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jul 2016

Bernie Sanders instead.... or have you forgotten exactly how close this primary was?

HR_Pufnstuf

(837 posts)
21. hissyspit has kahonayes
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:15 PM
Jul 2016

proudya girl.

apcalc

(4,463 posts)
28. Putin is behind these leaks, because he wants the moron Trump elected,
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jul 2016

red dog 1

(27,797 posts)
32. K&R...Thanks for posting
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jul 2016

This doesn't surprise me.

The Democratic Party needs a unifier as Chair of the DNC, not someone as divisive as DWS.

Hillary can make this all go away by choosing Elizabeth Warren as her running mate.

THAT will unify the Party.

THAT will ensure a Democratic victory in November!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
33. They never for a minute thought a socialist could beat whomever the GOP ran against them.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jul 2016

I saw that writing on the wall in 2010.

MattP

(3,304 posts)
35. 1 email is a secret plan
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jul 2016

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
36. lol
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jul 2016

MattP

(3,304 posts)
37. 1 bad email the rest is DWS bitching about bad press
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jul 2016
 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
39. great op, transparency is democratic, thank you and wikileaks
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jul 2016

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
56. Can't wait till they release
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jul 2016

the Goldman Sachs transcripts... WOW !!!...

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
58. I dont see anyone sending wiki those
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:07 PM
Jul 2016

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
41. This is the most disgusting thing I've read today. And that's saying a lot.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jul 2016

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
43. The U.S. Supreme Court is at stake...................
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jul 2016

the same U.S. Supreme Court that has been making rulings on everything from religion, to how much a bar keeper gets in tips.
I am giving my money to Canova for many reasons, and too Teachout for many reasons, they are now my starting point.

Honk-------------------for a political revolution

Loki

(3,825 posts)
44. You do realize that the primaries are over?
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jul 2016

Innuendo now stands as fact? I think you should do the right thing and remove this post. You know where it belongs, and it doesn't belong here.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
47. Yes, the primary is over. Do you know if the class action suit against the DNC is over?
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jul 2016

You know, the lawsuit where the plaintiffs sought to get reimbursed for their donations because the DNC didn't follow it's own chartered promises about even-handed treatment of all candidates.

I really haven't been paying attention to that and this sort of seems like evidence that might be relevant to the plaintiffs' claims

sheshe2

(83,748 posts)
49. It was a leave.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jul 2016

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
46. Assuming these aren't fake, why did Wiki leak these NOW? Looks like they're trying to help Trump.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jul 2016

Loki

(3,825 posts)
59. Exactly, what proof do we have. None.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:07 PM
Jul 2016

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
53. Well I just have to say...
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jul 2016

What difference at this point does it make?

chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
54. oh good god....
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jul 2016

this seems like a hit piece on the part of the Hill.....timing very suspicious.

question everything

(47,474 posts)
57. Um.. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is of "Jewish heritage"
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jul 2016

Either way, let it go.

For the ones who were wishing that either Sanders or Warren would be picked as v.p. - can anyone really see either of them as "second in command?"

luxpara4

(41 posts)
61. It is a big deal, and it was a shitty thing to do.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jul 2016

It is a big deal, and it was a shitty thing to do. Imagine this was turned around, and people planned on using Hilary's gender against her – and they had it in writing. I'm amazed at the hypocrites here who wouldn't admit to lose in a collective minds if something like this came out.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
62. There might even be an email somewhere
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jul 2016

That discusses Hillary being female as working against her with some voters.

luxpara4

(41 posts)
65. There might be, but we haven't seen it
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jul 2016

There might be, but we haven't seen it. And this is about the DNC trying to use it for their advantage of one Democratic candidate over the other. Not as and attempts to understand a possible Republican strategy.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
66. Locking
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 08:21 PM
Jul 2016

This does not qualify for LBN. Please consider reposting in GD.

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