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Mon Jun 25, 2012, 05:45 AM

Syria general and two colonels 'defect to Turkey'

Source: BBC


Syria general and two colonels 'defect to Turkey'

Several high-ranking Syrian military figures have defected to Turkey, reports in Turkish media say.

A general, two colonels, two majors and about 30 other soldiers are said to have crossed into Hatay province on Sunday night.

They were part of a group of some 200 people who crossed the border overnight into Monday, Anatolia news agency says.



Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-18445370

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 05:54 AM

1. Unraveling. Assad seems determined to hold on at any and all means. Really a tragedy for Syria.

And the region.

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 05:59 AM

2. Yowsa.

This is going to be some crazy day for President Obama, huh?

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 06:49 AM

3. At this rate Hugo Rafael Chávez Frías

 

isn't going to have any friends.

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 07:14 AM

4. So that was over before it started?

Way to go Obama!

My rightwing friend said Obama was going to start a war in Syria. I need to give her a call today.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 07:57 AM

5. It's not over

 

but it looks like Saudi Arabia and Turkey are supplying the guns and sanctuary for the rebels. The US can't be directly involved for a variety of reasons.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 08:10 AM

6. Agree, this is far from over

While it is a large group of people it is hardly a mass defection.

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 09:21 AM

10. Just warming up.

Has all the ingredients for an enduring civil war: ethnic and religious disagreements, interested neighbors, geographic divisions, central location, porus borders, etc.

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 08:36 AM

7. I wonder what the bounty paid is: 1 General=2 Colonels? 1 Colonel=1.5 Majors?

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 08:57 AM

8. Glad their families got out with them. Dictators generally do not treat the families of defectors

kindly.

"They came with their families and were taken to Apaydin camp a few miles inside the border, Anatolia reports."

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 08:58 AM

9. Assad is going down, down, down...

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 10:06 AM

11. This shows everybody has a price

 

I wonder how much it would cost to get an American General to defect? People selling out their country to outsider invaders is not a new phenomena. Also anyone else find it strange that the Arab league that is made up exclusively of dictators and Monarchs are calling for democracy in Syria? Sad but a lot of the so called Syria opposition do not understand that their country is a pon in the real fight and that is the fight for Iran. They do not care about you, not the women or the children, they just want you for Iran.

Stay classy Generals

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Response to Dokkie (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 11:27 AM

12. Hmmm

For someone who was defending Gaddafi until practically the very end, accusations of selling out ones people constitute some very big words.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4966696&mesg_id=4966991

"Stay classy" indeed.

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Response to Dokkie (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:19 PM

13. Or maybe they just don't want to kill civilians for Assad's grip on power.

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Response to Dokkie (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 01:00 PM

14. That is an insult to all the Syrians who have been fighting and dying in large numbers

despite the most godawful atrocities.

One of these defectors stated that if there were a safe zone, all of the military wold defect in short order.
They are disgusted at what is going on.

The person who is not staying classy is Assad. Unless you think atrocities are classy.

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Response to Dokkie (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 01:10 PM

15. I'm sure it wouldn't take much to get an American General to defect

if the US was under a dictatorial regime that was using the military to slaughter civilians in American population centers. It's kind of funny that leaving behind the regime massacring your countrymen is "selling out" your country now.

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Response to Dokkie (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 04:48 PM

16. consider also the deep pockets of the wahhabi dictators in Qatar and Saudi Arabia

 

who are now officially bankrolling these so-called "rebels" (after quasi-officially doing so since the start).

Another aspect to consider for the near future is when the Saudi & Qatari factions among the "rebels" break into open warfare with each other, like they are doing in Egypt at the moment at a low, increasing level.

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