Concealed guns legal without a permit in Idaho starting Friday

[ErikJ]

Source: Oregonian

Starting Friday, people in Idaho 21 and over will no longer need a permit or training to carry a concealed gun within city limits, according to KREM 2.

While it's already legal in Idaho to carry a concealed gun without a permit outside city limits, starting July 1, city limits will no longer factor into where a person can or can't carry a concealed weapon.

In March, Idaho's governor, C.L. "Butch" Otter, signed Senate Bill 1389 into law, relaxing gun regulations in the state. The bill covers "any deadly weapon carried on or about the person in a manner not discernible by ordinary observation," which means it also applies to "any dirk, dirk knife, bowie knife, dagger" along with firearms.

July 1 also marks the beginning of other new laws in Idaho: powdered alcohol will be banned, movie theaters will be able to serve alcohol during movies that have nudity, aborted fetal tissue will banned from use in research and any woman seeking an abortion will be given a list of free ultrasound providers, which KREM 2 points out are "typically owned by anti-abortion advocates."

Read more: http://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2016/06/concealed_guns_legal_without_a.html

[Politicalboi]

1. Crazy

Oh well, we can't save them all. Good Luck Idaho, you're going to need it.

[Press Virginia]

26. I'm sure the blood of innocents will flow as freely as it does in other states that allow it

[former9thward]

33. Why is it crazy?

We have CC without permit or training in AZ and there are no problems with it.

[onehandle]

2. Another state to skip in your travels. nt

[scscholar]

3. This. It's going to be much more dangerous there! (ntxt)

[Travis_0004]

9. Their murder rate is 1/3 the national average

Here is a list of states with a higher murder rate than Idaho.

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Illinois
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

[ErikJ]

10. This new law will probably change that.

What I saw going on at the univ of Idaho it will be interesting. Lots of alcohol and even live sex shows in the streets.
Idaho does have the 6th highest suicide rate in the US though, 2/3 using guns which make it much more impulsive.

[TipTok]

16. It's already been like that and the new law just includes a bit more space...

As the stats above show, they haven't had bloodbaths everywhere except the city areas and have a lower murder rate than most.

[former9thward]

34. Why would not having a permit for CC cause people to murder?

[scscholar]

11. We all know what statistics say, and...

we know what we know.

[Thor_MN]

12. Not sure what your source is, but it is wrong.

2014 murder rate data puts Idaho at 10th lowest, with
Oregon
Hawaii
Maine
Utah
Minnesota
Massachusetts
New Hampshire
North Dakota
Vermont

having lower rates. Maybe you were looking at number of murders, which put a low population state like Idaho at an advantage.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide.htm

[ErikJ]

6. Boise is cool though

I was in Boise last summer and was surprised how "progressive" it has become in the past 20 years. Really cool downtown.

[maxsolomon]

20. Your loss

Idaho is a really cool landscape and there are tons of wild hot springs. The Sawtooth Range is stunning. Craters of the Moon is mind-bending.

You're not going there for the Hippie Culture, and every jackhole who was wants to CC was already doing so. Odds are, they're only going to shoot themselves or their family, anyway.

[former9thward]

35. Please avoid AZ.

We have the same law and there are already too many people coming here for the weather.

[Kang Colby]

42. Like Vermont and Maine

with the lowest homicides rates in the country, compared to the gun control paradise in Baltimore, Chicago, and D.C.

States are quickly tossing useless permits aside because people realize that gun control does little more than enable violent criminals.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

4. Just final blowback from electing Pedro class president years ago.

[Cayenne]

30. Idiots!

[Jitter65]

5. Is this really from from the Onion? nt

[jmowreader]

8. Nope. It's real.

Before Idaho got "constitutional carry" we had three legal ways to carry a pistol in town.

First was open carry. You could just strap on yer shootin' iron and walk around no questions asked.

Next was the Standard Carry Permit. To get one, they put a gun, a zucchini and a pair of socks on the table. If you can pick out the gun in less than five attempts and you haven't killed anyone this week unless they really, really needed it, you can get one. This permit is so useless most people go for a Utah permit instead.

And finally is the Enhanced Carry Permit. You must take an 8-hour class and fire 100 rounds - but there's no minimum number of hits required.

[jmowreader]

7. They couldn't find time to fund school, though.

[Just reading posts]

13. Liberalization of concealed carry laws has been the overwhelming trend for the last thirty years.

[ileus]

23. Turn green America.

[jtuck004]

14. 25 miles from here. I wonder if they will run home to put their weapon up

before coming over here to Costco?

[Ford_Prefect]

15. Idaho ranks 44 in population density.

Most of that is concentrated in the 5 cities. Almost 1/2 of the land has very few to no people on it at all. Total population is about 1.5 million. Compare that density to New York, or California.

It still makes no sense to give any fool with a gun the right to carry it anywhere, any time without respect to the safety of people nearby. This is still a very dangerous object that must be handled with appropriate care. Would you allow the same person to walk around wearing live grenades on their belt?

[hunter]

17. 'cause you just never know when you might have to shoot someone...

[Aristus]

18. Good thing I have no reason to ever visit Idaho.

I don't think my absence will affect their economy at all. I foresee a lucrative, albeit bloody, future for Idaho in 'gun-tourism', if there is such a thing.

If there isn't now, there soon will be...

"Bring yer beautiful arsenal ta I-dee-ho! Y'ain't gotta have no gubmint paperwork, neether! We'll be paintin' the town red!..."

[former9thward]

37. How come we don't have that problem in Arizona?

We have had that same law for years. When is this "soon" going to happen?

[kimbutgar]

19. $hit I was planning on going taking a car trip in September to visit my husband's aunt

I am not sure I want to go now. My adult son is autistic and can sometimes get overstimulated and meltdown. I am officially nervous now.

[maxsolomon]

21. Go

the thing about CC is that you never see the guns. they're concealed.

Idaho is pretty. Well, not the Snake River Plain, but the mountains are.

[kimbutgar]

25. We're driving from San Francisco to Pocatello

My son is excited about the car trip. But I am still nervous about some twitchy finger gun worshipper not understanding if my son has one his meltdowns. We know how to keep them from happening but sometimes some we don't expect it and it happens and he loses it. So I am concerned. Plus we plan on staying in a hotel.

[Marengo]

31. I live near Idaho and travel through a fair amount, I don't believe you need to worry...

Not saying my experience is universal, but I have found most of the folks I've interacted with in Idaho were polite, friendly, and easy-going.

[maxsolomon]

39. Ooh, you'll be close to Craters of the Moon NM

Well worth a day trip - raw volcanic landscape like nothing this side of Hawaii. Lava Tube caves, Cinder Cones.

Also: Wild Rose Hot Spring is right on 26 east of Craters - Mile Marker 112, 121 or something like that. No sign, the spring is around a basalt outcrop to the right on the north side of the road.

Enjoy Trump Country!

[ileus]

22. Blood in the Streets! BLOOD in the STREETS!!!! Or not...

[Press Virginia]

27. I keep waiting for these OK Corral shootouts. Should be annnnnny day now

right after someone uses bump fire in a mass shooting

[LanternWaste]

28. No doubt you could find something in the Daily Caller to validate your wait...

No doubt you could find something in the Daily Caller to validate your wait...

[Press Virginia]

29. I didn't realize it wasn't a good source. I saw it on Drudge

[libodem]

24. So sucks to live here

[Kang Colby]

41. Would you be safer in Chicago or Baltimore?

Perhaps D.C.?

[leftyladyfrommo]

32. Northern Idaho is already wide open.

The last time I was there hard core bikers were on the highway everywhere. I guess they run drugs back and forth out of Canada.

Idaho has always been kind of a wide open kind of place. I grew up in Spokane. I remember stopping in Wallace in the middle of the night and it was really an experience.

Northern Idaho was built on mining and logging. And the miners and the loggers were always a pretty rowdy bunch.

[Night Watchman]

36. Do They Think the State is Too Crowded?

Jesus!

[TeddyR]

38. Many states have similar laws

And none have had a problem. DC now, with their strict gun laws and no carry, has a problem. As does Chicago, etc.

[Kang Colby]

40. Vermont, Maine, Alaska, West Virginia, Arizona, and several

other states allow permitless carry.

The Second Amendment is the only permit you should need.