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Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:37 PM

GUILTY 45 out of 48 Counts- !!! - Jury reaches verdict in Sandusky trial

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Source: USA Today

A jury of seven women and five men deliberated for the bulk of two days before reaching a verdict Friday night. They began their work this morning at 9 a.m. by reviewing the testimony of key prosecution witness Michael McQueary, a Penn State assistant football coach, and McQueary family friend Jonathan Dranov.

The two provided differing accounts of a 2001 incident in which McQueary testified that he saw Sandusky and a young boy in a university shower room engaged in what McQueary believed was sodomy. Dranov, a physician, said McQueary's account to him did not include a sexual act.


45 out of 48 GUILTY
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#Sandusky Guilty on 45 counts - 442 years in prison is maximum sentence possible!

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-22/sandusky-verdict/55768640/1



Sandusky found guilty on 45 of 48 charges

By MARK SCOLFORO and GENARO ARMAS
The Associated Press

http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_20916160/sandusky-jury-rehears-penn-st-assistant-testimony



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NYT NEWS ALERT: Sandusky Is Found Guilty on 45 of 48 Counts in Child Sexual Abuse Case
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/6/22/3111698/jerry-sandusky-guilty-sex-abuse-trial




Ex-Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky convicted of 45 counts in sex abuse trial.

The 68-year-old former Penn State assistant football coach was fighting 48 counts that accused him of abusing 10 boys over 15 years. It was possible he could spend the rest of his life in prison if convicted of all counts.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/06/22/sandusky-verdict.html?cmp=rss




BELLEFONTE -- A Centre County jury has found former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky guilty of 45 counts of child sexual abuse.

Sandusky, a former Penn State assistant football coach, had been charged with 52 counts of sexually abusing 10 boys, some of them on the Penn State campus and all of them he met through his Second Mile children's charity.

Four of those charges were dismissed during the trial.

Bail was revoked. http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/jerry_sandusky_verdict_sandusk.html

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Reply GUILTY 45 out of 48 Counts- !!! - Jury reaches verdict in Sandusky trial (Original post)
kpete Jun 2012 OP
Lochloosa Jun 2012 #1
Grassy Knoll Jun 2012 #15
goclark Jun 2012 #41
slackmaster Jun 2012 #2
Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #3
Tansy_Gold Jun 2012 #4
Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #6
femmocrat Jun 2012 #5
Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #7
femmocrat Jun 2012 #9
Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #10
harmonicon Jun 2012 #53
eggplant Jun 2012 #8
PatrynXX Jun 2012 #34
iandhr Jun 2012 #11
obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #13
Iliyah Jun 2012 #12
lunatica Jun 2012 #62
sad sally Jun 2012 #14
Sienna86 Jun 2012 #16
ProfessionalLeftist Jun 2012 #20
TalkingDog Jun 2012 #21
iandhr Jun 2012 #27
TalkingDog Jun 2012 #32
PatrynXX Jun 2012 #35
iandhr Jun 2012 #38
RainDog Jun 2012 #43
southerncrone Jun 2012 #46
crunch60 Jun 2012 #50
southerncrone Jun 2012 #66
obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #55
calimary Jun 2012 #68
sad sally Jun 2012 #30
coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #44
southerncrone Jun 2012 #47
calimary Jun 2012 #69
OhioChick Jun 2012 #17
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Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #19
Wolf Frankula Jun 2012 #22
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FreeState Jun 2012 #24
PatrynXX Jun 2012 #36
valerief Jun 2012 #57
iandhr Jun 2012 #25
myrna minx Jun 2012 #26
benld74 Jun 2012 #28
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Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #33
rocktivity Jun 2012 #39
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LynneSin Jun 2012 #42
coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #48
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RBInMaine Jun 2012 #54
The Jungle 1 Jun 2012 #56
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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:38 PM

1. He's done.

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:08 PM

15. I hope so, But he is a Republican. n/t

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:51 PM

41. Will he be put in a cell with other young men?


Lock him up solo!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:48 PM

2. That's pretty quick for so many counts

 

He's toast.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:49 PM

3. That was fast

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Two hours of deliberations doesn't seem to be very long for this case, but I've never served on a jury.

Edit: Apparently, I can't read. TWO DAYS. Not two hours. I need to go to bed.

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Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:51 PM

4. Two days, not two hours n/t

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Response to Tansy_Gold (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:53 PM

6. My bad

Sorry. I didn't read it clearly.

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Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:51 PM

5. They deliberated for two days... about 12 hrs. a day.

By all accounts, the jury was very diligent.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:54 PM

7. Sorry.

I'm tired and thought I read two hours, not two days.

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Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:55 PM

9. NP, easy to do.

I know it wouldn't have taken me more than two minutes!

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:57 PM

10. I know!

Even if he walks, someone will be keeping him away from young boys from now on, which is a good thing.

I just feel bad for all the kids he hurt already. And I hope the jury finds him guilty on all counts.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 04:59 AM

53. I think you just need a few notarized copies of this statement...

to avoid ever having to serve jury duty. Nice plan.

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Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:39 PM

34. no need to worry about that :)

although I did serve on one but never went to trial. nothing like a bunch of Law and Order fans. guy plead guilty before the trial started oops

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:57 PM

11. Will they read it court this late?

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Response to iandhr (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:06 PM

13. Yes

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:01 PM

12. I don't think Sandusky feels he did a very bad thing

Seems like he considers himself a victim, this guy needed psycho help a long time ago and it looks like his co-workers, Penn State higher ups just looked the other way.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:40 AM

62. A lot of pedophiles truly believe they've just loved their victims and that it's natural

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Sandusky is one of those evidently. He treated them well. Gave them gifts, took them to football games and he even adopted at least one into his family.

Hell, in Afghanistan it seems to be quite common and accepted that older men have a young boy as a lover.

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Afghanistan-s-dirty-little-secret-3176762.php

I think Sandusky basically believed he wasn't really doing anything wrong, and every time he was 'caught' he got away with it so his belief was reinforced. I doubt anyone ever said anything to him personally about it. So he knew that people knew (like Palermo) and he may have even thought they did it too. There's no telling what twisted thinking he had that justified his actions in his own mind, but I guarantee he did justify them to his satisfaction.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:06 PM

14. Damn this ignorant man (Dranov) - it wasn't SEX - it was RAPE!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:11 PM

16. Shame on those who knew and did nothing.

Countless people must have been aware, and I'll included Sandusky's wife, ans folks at Penn State. Shame on them.

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Response to Sienna86 (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:15 PM

20. +100000000 n/t

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Response to Sienna86 (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:16 PM

21. I wish they would all get the same sentence he does, but it is unlikely.

Because, by allowing it to continue, they are just as guilty.

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Response to TalkingDog (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:26 PM

27. joe paterno knew

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but he is dead so that might be a little difficult.

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Response to iandhr (Reply #27)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:34 PM

32. We can only hope that if there is a Hell, he is now in it.

n/t

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Response to iandhr (Reply #27)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:42 PM

35. think Joe tried but...

kinda didn't follow up on it. not sure hell is where he is. Jerry yes. with another Jerry I know kinda rhymes with hall fall fell fool something like that

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #35)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:53 PM

38. His graduate assistant told him.

If some told me they witnessed a child being raped I would pull my phone out of my pocket and say "call the police."

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Response to iandhr (Reply #38)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:04 AM

43. thank you n/t

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Response to iandhr (Reply #38)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:27 AM

46. Yep.

Then McQueary was a grad asst, dependent upon Jo Pa & perhaps Sandisgusty for his degree. He took more action than anyone else at PS it seems. I'm sure he was horrified & in shock & disbelief when he witnessed that shower scene. Your mind doesn't immediately go to child sex abuse automatically. I imagine that kid's face will forever haunt him. As far as I'm concerned, he is also a victim of Sandisgusty. For those who blame him for not doing more, I say he did the most at PS, even though he could have been punished for that action.
Jo Pa was the MOST POWERFUL person on that campus & probably the entire community! He could have saved numerous other kids from this fate. He put football & his image above kids.....that is a selfish crime, too. Cancer is a disease in which the body eats itself; one has to wonder if THIS is what ate him up inside.

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Response to southerncrone (Reply #46)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 03:46 AM

50. Many good people get cancer to, has nothing to do with who you are. Bad analogy.

 

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Response to crunch60 (Reply #50)

Sun Jun 24, 2012, 12:15 AM

66. Did not mean infer that it would be the same for everyone.

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #35)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:53 AM

55. I think Paterno didn;t try at all

Just protected his image and cash-cow football program and assets.

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Response to iandhr (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 24, 2012, 03:17 PM

68. Hell, I'd be all for digging him up and slapping charges on his corpse.

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He knew. And even if he "tried" to "do something about it," he sure didn't "try" that hard! They all had their priorities: the sanctity of the stupid damn fucking football program trumped everything. They're all seriously at fault, especially those who looked away - whether they were university officials and coaches, alumni, local business interests and politicians, media people and/or sponsors who refused to rock the boat because the Almighty Football Program had to be protected over all else. Lives were ruined. But Heaven forbid the accursed football program be threatened in any way. They're all criminals in my book.

Things like this make me HATE football.

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Response to Sienna86 (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:30 PM

30. All the bastards - no matter how "important" they are to Penn State and football - who knew about

this evil man raping little boys and did nothing to stop it should stand before all these victims and explain why their power and wealth was more important than stopping this pedophile - the President of Penn State knew. The athletic director knew. Assistant coaches knew. The head of police knew. May the rest of the days of their lives be filled with shame, may their finances be reduced to zero.

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Response to sad sally (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:20 AM

44. +1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely

 

needed saying.

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Response to sad sally (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:28 AM

47. +10000000000000000000000000000 Just desserts.

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Response to sad sally (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 24, 2012, 03:19 PM

69. Hey, I've heard that even the governor knew.

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Haven't followed every last thread in this disgusting unraveling rug, so I'm not 100% sure about that one. But enough of them DID sit on their hands. Football was sacred. Couldn't possibly rock the boat to save a few insignificant kids when this giant of a man was playing such a key role in keeping the football team on top and the money and bragging rights pouring in.

Couldn't agree with you more, sad sally. May they suffer the way you've said in this life, and burn to a crisp in the next one! I'm sure glad my son was never into sports (except for karate). He never got into that stupid, pig-headed, thuggish, mow-'em-down, acceptable-violence culture.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:12 PM

17. 45 out of 48 Guilty!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:12 PM

18. "This is an evil, evil man!"

To quote Jeff Toobin, "He's gonna die in prison-- where he should die!"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:14 PM

19. Justice!

I am so glad he will never again harm a child!

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:18 PM

23. Especially given the context, do we really need to go there? (nt)

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:21 PM

24. Most child molesters are killed in prison

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beyond that rape is never a funny matter IMO.

May all his victims find the peace they so desperately deserve.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2011/11/jerry_sandusky_out_on_bail_are_child_molesters_tormented_in_american_prisons_.html

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Response to FreeState (Reply #24)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:45 PM

36. 2 sorts many people hate

on either side of the bars. child molesters and animal abusers. (and a side order of cannibals.)

He'll likely be finding someone tainting his food with alot of laxative, and eventually tied to a toilet with a bar stuck up his....... while someone beats him up.

(ahem this is all fantasy if someone is thinking this should happen. they might need to seek help)

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #36)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 10:20 AM

57. Unless he's sent to a prison resort, where rich people go. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:23 PM

25. I hope the victims can find confront and some closure

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:23 PM

26. I hope his victims have a sense of relief tonight.

I can't even imagine how they feel.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:27 PM

28. Sandosky's 33yr old adopted son accused him of raping him as well,,,,

This occurred when the jury went into deliberation!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:28 PM

29. Now why aren't the Catholic Priests in prison?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:31 PM

31. He even raped his ADOPTED SON. If there is Karma...

...he will end up dead, inmates don't like pedos.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 24, 2012, 12:31 AM

67. They will protect him from the prison general population

Unfortunately.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:38 PM

33. this case STILL isn't over

until they get those ratfucks who covered it up...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #33)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:01 PM

39. DING DING DING! Blue_Tires, you're our grand prize winner!

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(T)his case STILL isn't over until they get those ratfucks who covered it up...

And if Paterno were still alive, he'd be on top of my list.

Everyone at Penn State who participated in the coverup should be charged as accomplices, including the campus police, Mrs. Sandusky, and Mike McQueary!


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #39)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:27 AM

60. And the wife as well,

I should think. How could she not know something was happening in her own house like that?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:48 PM

37. Sandusky is going to rot

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I wouldn't be surprised in the least if his soon-to-be fellow inmates target him for the same treatment he put all those little kids through. The pokey is well known for its tendency to mete out prison justice to child molesters, rapists, pimps, and wife beaters.

On a side note, I hope there's evidence against Mrs. Sandusky on the grounds of child endangerment. After all, she turned a blind eye to her husband's predatory ways. If I were Sandusky's wife, I would have not only divorced him, I also would have looked to get the marriage annuled. I don't want touch a child rapist with a 10 mile, much less a 10-foot pole.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:08 PM

40. He will never see the light of day again. Justice is done.

He had better hope they keep him in secure lockdown. Child molesters do not fare well in the general population.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:54 PM

42. It's a shame that there were people who knew about this 15 years ago but kept quiet

And there needs to be an investigation as to who dropped the ball including former PA Attorney General now governor Tom Corbett

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #42)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:34 AM

48. I just posted the following status update on my FB page:

 

Why do Repigs get a pass on enabling pedophila??? Turns out Pennsylvania's current Repig Governor Tom Corbett was State Attorney General back when allegations of pedophilia first surfaced around Penn State U. Assistant Coach Jerry Sandusky. Why didn't Corbett do anything??? And how come Repigs keep getting a free pass on this shit? Corbett should be drummed out of office and forced to go on trial as an accessory to pedophila after the fact. WTF? Come on Pennsylvania, dig your heads out of your ass!

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #48)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 03:59 AM

51. Yes, Tom Corbett knew about Sandusky long ago , I believe he was a big part

 

of the cover up. Corbett is a right wing pig, and he also should be held accountable.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:24 AM

45. Good.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:45 AM

49. This must be a mistake. Didn't the jury know he's a famous football coach?

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This is just inhumane! Poor Sandusky.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 04:04 AM

52. excellent post by are_grits_groceries

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:17 AM

54. They should castrate him and then feed him his own balls for dinner in jail.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 08:32 AM

56. low life scum

They better not send him to one of the country clubs. Graterford will do just fine. See how he makes out with the boys in that hell hole.

Someone tell me why this scum bothered to take this to trial. Yo rocket man you were gonna lose all along.

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Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #56)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:09 AM

58. He didn't seem to think he did anything wrong

I got the impression that he didn't think he would be found guilty.

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Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #58)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:14 AM

59. He's severely mentally ill

 

He lives in his own private fantasy land where he did nothing wrong.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #59)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:37 AM

61. How he can watch the now grown men he tortured as boys,

sob, recounting their stories and maintain in his mind, that he did nothing wrong, is beyond me.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #61)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:51 AM

63. Severe mental illness bizarre. Mentally ill people think, say, and do very strange things.

 

I have a good friend who has worked in emergency medical services and is a long-time sufferer of severe depression. His condition has been under control for many years with medication.

I had a conversation with him recently about another friend who committed suicide earlier this year. She had Borderline Personality Disorder. I was trying to understand her behavior in a rational manner.

My paramedic friend said "Just stop right there. Mentally ill people do weird shit because they are fucking mentally ill."

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #59)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:58 PM

64. I know

Unfortunately, nobody took the trouble to stop him before he ruined the childhoods of so many children.

I hope that more people are charged/convicted because they covered for Sandusky.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:59 PM

65. AWESOME JOB, JURORS!

i hope this piece of shit rots in hell.

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Response to shanti (Reply #65)

Sun Jun 24, 2012, 03:56 PM

70. Amen to that.

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I'm afraid I've become so cynical about these things that I half-expected him to walk. We've sure seen a lot of other guilty parties skate away. I'm SO glad he couldn't. He deserves every book they throw at him.

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