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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:37 PM Jun 2012

GUILTY 45 out of 48 Counts- !!! - Jury reaches verdict in Sandusky trial

Last edited Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:20 PM - Edit history (9)

Source: USA Today

A jury of seven women and five men deliberated for the bulk of two days before reaching a verdict Friday night. They began their work this morning at 9 a.m. by reviewing the testimony of key prosecution witness Michael McQueary, a Penn State assistant football coach, and McQueary family friend Jonathan Dranov.

The two provided differing accounts of a 2001 incident in which McQueary testified that he saw Sandusky and a young boy in a university shower room engaged in what McQueary believed was sodomy. Dranov, a physician, said McQueary's account to him did not include a sexual act.


45 out of 48 GUILTY
just now on MSNBC
#Sandusky Guilty on 45 counts - 442 years in prison is maximum sentence possible!

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-22/sandusky-verdict/55768640/1



Sandusky found guilty on 45 of 48 charges

By MARK SCOLFORO and GENARO ARMAS
The Associated Press

http://www.ydr.com/crime/ci_20916160/sandusky-jury-rehears-penn-st-assistant-testimony



The New York Times
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NYT NEWS ALERT: Sandusky Is Found Guilty on 45 of 48 Counts in Child Sexual Abuse Case
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/6/22/3111698/jerry-sandusky-guilty-sex-abuse-trial




Ex-Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky convicted of 45 counts in sex abuse trial.

The 68-year-old former Penn State assistant football coach was fighting 48 counts that accused him of abusing 10 boys over 15 years. It was possible he could spend the rest of his life in prison if convicted of all counts.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/06/22/sandusky-verdict.html?cmp=rss




BELLEFONTE -- A Centre County jury has found former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky guilty of 45 counts of child sexual abuse.

Sandusky, a former Penn State assistant football coach, had been charged with 52 counts of sexually abusing 10 boys, some of them on the Penn State campus and all of them he met through his Second Mile children's charity.

Four of those charges were dismissed during the trial.

Bail was revoked. http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/jerry_sandusky_verdict_sandusk.html
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GUILTY 45 out of 48 Counts- !!! - Jury reaches verdict in Sandusky trial (Original Post) kpete Jun 2012 OP
He's done. Lochloosa Jun 2012 #1
I hope so, But he is a Republican. n/t Grassy Knoll Jun 2012 #15
Will he be put in a cell with other young men? goclark Jun 2012 #41
That's pretty quick for so many counts slackmaster Jun 2012 #2
That was fast Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #3
Two days, not two hours n/t Tansy_Gold Jun 2012 #4
My bad Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #6
They deliberated for two days... about 12 hrs. a day. femmocrat Jun 2012 #5
Sorry. Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #7
NP, easy to do. femmocrat Jun 2012 #9
I know! Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #10
I think you just need a few notarized copies of this statement... harmonicon Jun 2012 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author eggplant Jun 2012 #8
no need to worry about that :) PatrynXX Jun 2012 #34
Will they read it court this late? iandhr Jun 2012 #11
Yes obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #13
I don't think Sandusky feels he did a very bad thing Iliyah Jun 2012 #12
A lot of pedophiles truly believe they've just loved their victims and that it's natural lunatica Jun 2012 #62
Damn this ignorant man (Dranov) - it wasn't SEX - it was RAPE!! sad sally Jun 2012 #14
Shame on those who knew and did nothing. Sienna86 Jun 2012 #16
+100000000 n/t ProfessionalLeftist Jun 2012 #20
I wish they would all get the same sentence he does, but it is unlikely. TalkingDog Jun 2012 #21
joe paterno knew iandhr Jun 2012 #27
We can only hope that if there is a Hell, he is now in it. TalkingDog Jun 2012 #32
think Joe tried but... PatrynXX Jun 2012 #35
His graduate assistant told him. iandhr Jun 2012 #38
thank you n/t RainDog Jun 2012 #43
Yep. southerncrone Jun 2012 #46
Many good people get cancer to, has nothing to do with who you are. Bad analogy. crunch60 Jun 2012 #50
Did not mean infer that it would be the same for everyone. southerncrone Jun 2012 #66
I think Paterno didn;t try at all obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #55
Hell, I'd be all for digging him up and slapping charges on his corpse. calimary Jun 2012 #68
All the bastards - no matter how "important" they are to Penn State and football - who knew about sad sally Jun 2012 #30
+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #44
+10000000000000000000000000000 Just desserts. southerncrone Jun 2012 #47
Hey, I've heard that even the governor knew. calimary Jun 2012 #69
45 out of 48 Guilty! OhioChick Jun 2012 #17
"This is an evil, evil man!" qanda Jun 2012 #18
Justice! Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #19
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #22
Especially given the context, do we really need to go there? (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2012 #23
Most child molesters are killed in prison FreeState Jun 2012 #24
2 sorts many people hate PatrynXX Jun 2012 #36
Unless he's sent to a prison resort, where rich people go. nt valerief Jun 2012 #57
I hope the victims can find confront and some closure iandhr Jun 2012 #25
I hope his victims have a sense of relief tonight. myrna minx Jun 2012 #26
Sandosky's 33yr old adopted son accused him of raping him as well,,,, benld74 Jun 2012 #28
Now why aren't the Catholic Priests in prison? SHRED Jun 2012 #29
He even raped his ADOPTED SON. If there is Karma... Odin2005 Jun 2012 #31
They will protect him from the prison general population tawadi Jun 2012 #67
this case STILL isn't over Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #33
DING DING DING! Blue_Tires, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Jun 2012 #39
And the wife as well, They_Live Jun 2012 #60
Sandusky is going to rot meow2u3 Jun 2012 #37
He will never see the light of day again. Justice is done. hifiguy Jun 2012 #40
It's a shame that there were people who knew about this 15 years ago but kept quiet LynneSin Jun 2012 #42
I just posted the following status update on my FB page: coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #48
Yes, Tom Corbett knew about Sandusky long ago , I believe he was a big part crunch60 Jun 2012 #51
Good. yardwork Jun 2012 #45
This must be a mistake. Didn't the jury know he's a famous football coach? Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #49
excellent post by are_grits_groceries shireen Jun 2012 #52
They should castrate him and then feed him his own balls for dinner in jail. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #54
low life scum The Jungle 1 Jun 2012 #56
He didn't seem to think he did anything wrong Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #58
He's severely mentally ill slackmaster Jun 2012 #59
How he can watch the now grown men he tortured as boys, mzmolly Jun 2012 #61
Severe mental illness bizarre. Mentally ill people think, say, and do very strange things. slackmaster Jun 2012 #63
I know Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #64
AWESOME JOB, JURORS! shanti Jun 2012 #65
Amen to that. calimary Jun 2012 #70

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
3. That was fast
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:49 PM
Jun 2012

Two hours of deliberations doesn't seem to be very long for this case, but I've never served on a jury.

Edit: Apparently, I can't read. TWO DAYS. Not two hours. I need to go to bed.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
10. I know!
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 09:57 PM
Jun 2012

Even if he walks, someone will be keeping him away from young boys from now on, which is a good thing.

I just feel bad for all the kids he hurt already. And I hope the jury finds him guilty on all counts.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
53. I think you just need a few notarized copies of this statement...
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 04:59 AM
Jun 2012

to avoid ever having to serve jury duty. Nice plan.

Response to Stargazer09 (Reply #3)

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
34. no need to worry about that :)
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jun 2012

although I did serve on one but never went to trial. nothing like a bunch of Law and Order fans. guy plead guilty before the trial started oops

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. I don't think Sandusky feels he did a very bad thing
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:01 PM
Jun 2012

Seems like he considers himself a victim, this guy needed psycho help a long time ago and it looks like his co-workers, Penn State higher ups just looked the other way.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
62. A lot of pedophiles truly believe they've just loved their victims and that it's natural
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jun 2012

Sandusky is one of those evidently. He treated them well. Gave them gifts, took them to football games and he even adopted at least one into his family.

Hell, in Afghanistan it seems to be quite common and accepted that older men have a young boy as a lover.

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Afghanistan-s-dirty-little-secret-3176762.php

I think Sandusky basically believed he wasn't really doing anything wrong, and every time he was 'caught' he got away with it so his belief was reinforced. I doubt anyone ever said anything to him personally about it. So he knew that people knew (like Palermo) and he may have even thought they did it too. There's no telling what twisted thinking he had that justified his actions in his own mind, but I guarantee he did justify them to his satisfaction.

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
16. Shame on those who knew and did nothing.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:11 PM
Jun 2012

Countless people must have been aware, and I'll included Sandusky's wife, ans folks at Penn State. Shame on them.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
21. I wish they would all get the same sentence he does, but it is unlikely.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:16 PM
Jun 2012

Because, by allowing it to continue, they are just as guilty.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
35. think Joe tried but...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:42 PM
Jun 2012

kinda didn't follow up on it. not sure hell is where he is. Jerry yes. with another Jerry I know kinda rhymes with hall fall fell fool something like that

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
38. His graduate assistant told him.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:53 PM
Jun 2012

If some told me they witnessed a child being raped I would pull my phone out of my pocket and say "call the police."

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
46. Yep.
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:27 AM
Jun 2012

Then McQueary was a grad asst, dependent upon Jo Pa & perhaps Sandisgusty for his degree. He took more action than anyone else at PS it seems. I'm sure he was horrified & in shock & disbelief when he witnessed that shower scene. Your mind doesn't immediately go to child sex abuse automatically. I imagine that kid's face will forever haunt him. As far as I'm concerned, he is also a victim of Sandisgusty. For those who blame him for not doing more, I say he did the most at PS, even though he could have been punished for that action.
Jo Pa was the MOST POWERFUL person on that campus & probably the entire community! He could have saved numerous other kids from this fate. He put football & his image above kids.....that is a selfish crime, too. Cancer is a disease in which the body eats itself; one has to wonder if THIS is what ate him up inside.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
55. I think Paterno didn;t try at all
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:53 AM
Jun 2012

Just protected his image and cash-cow football program and assets.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
68. Hell, I'd be all for digging him up and slapping charges on his corpse.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 03:17 PM
Jun 2012

He knew. And even if he "tried" to "do something about it," he sure didn't "try" that hard! They all had their priorities: the sanctity of the stupid damn fucking football program trumped everything. They're all seriously at fault, especially those who looked away - whether they were university officials and coaches, alumni, local business interests and politicians, media people and/or sponsors who refused to rock the boat because the Almighty Football Program had to be protected over all else. Lives were ruined. But Heaven forbid the accursed football program be threatened in any way. They're all criminals in my book.

Things like this make me HATE football.

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
30. All the bastards - no matter how "important" they are to Penn State and football - who knew about
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:30 PM
Jun 2012

this evil man raping little boys and did nothing to stop it should stand before all these victims and explain why their power and wealth was more important than stopping this pedophile - the President of Penn State knew. The athletic director knew. Assistant coaches knew. The head of police knew. May the rest of the days of their lives be filled with shame, may their finances be reduced to zero.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
69. Hey, I've heard that even the governor knew.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 03:19 PM
Jun 2012

Haven't followed every last thread in this disgusting unraveling rug, so I'm not 100% sure about that one. But enough of them DID sit on their hands. Football was sacred. Couldn't possibly rock the boat to save a few insignificant kids when this giant of a man was playing such a key role in keeping the football team on top and the money and bragging rights pouring in.

Couldn't agree with you more, sad sally. May they suffer the way you've said in this life, and burn to a crisp in the next one! I'm sure glad my son was never into sports (except for karate). He never got into that stupid, pig-headed, thuggish, mow-'em-down, acceptable-violence culture.

qanda

(10,422 posts)
18. "This is an evil, evil man!"
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:12 PM
Jun 2012

To quote Jeff Toobin, "He's gonna die in prison-- where he should die!"

Response to kpete (Original post)

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
36. 2 sorts many people hate
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:45 PM
Jun 2012

on either side of the bars. child molesters and animal abusers. (and a side order of cannibals.)

He'll likely be finding someone tainting his food with alot of laxative, and eventually tied to a toilet with a bar stuck up his....... while someone beats him up.

(ahem this is all fantasy if someone is thinking this should happen. they might need to seek help)

benld74

(9,904 posts)
28. Sandosky's 33yr old adopted son accused him of raping him as well,,,,
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:27 PM
Jun 2012

This occurred when the jury went into deliberation!

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
31. He even raped his ADOPTED SON. If there is Karma...
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:31 PM
Jun 2012

...he will end up dead, inmates don't like pedos.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
39. DING DING DING! Blue_Tires, you're our grand prize winner!
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:01 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sat Jun 23, 2012, 09:43 PM - Edit history (1)

(T)his case STILL isn't over until they get those ratfucks who covered it up...

And if Paterno were still alive, he'd be on top of my list.

Everyone at Penn State who participated in the coverup should be charged as accomplices, including the campus police, Mrs. Sandusky, and Mike McQueary!


rocktivity

They_Live

(3,232 posts)
60. And the wife as well,
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:27 AM
Jun 2012

I should think. How could she not know something was happening in her own house like that?

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
37. Sandusky is going to rot
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:48 PM
Jun 2012

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if his soon-to-be fellow inmates target him for the same treatment he put all those little kids through. The pokey is well known for its tendency to mete out prison justice to child molesters, rapists, pimps, and wife beaters.

On a side note, I hope there's evidence against Mrs. Sandusky on the grounds of child endangerment. After all, she turned a blind eye to her husband's predatory ways. If I were Sandusky's wife, I would have not only divorced him, I also would have looked to get the marriage annuled. I don't want touch a child rapist with a 10 mile, much less a 10-foot pole.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
40. He will never see the light of day again. Justice is done.
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:08 PM
Jun 2012

He had better hope they keep him in secure lockdown. Child molesters do not fare well in the general population.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
42. It's a shame that there were people who knew about this 15 years ago but kept quiet
Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:54 PM
Jun 2012

And there needs to be an investigation as to who dropped the ball including former PA Attorney General now governor Tom Corbett

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
48. I just posted the following status update on my FB page:
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:34 AM
Jun 2012

Why do Repigs get a pass on enabling pedophila??? Turns out Pennsylvania's current Repig Governor Tom Corbett was State Attorney General back when allegations of pedophilia first surfaced around Penn State U. Assistant Coach Jerry Sandusky. Why didn't Corbett do anything??? And how come Repigs keep getting a free pass on this shit? Corbett should be drummed out of office and forced to go on trial as an accessory to pedophila after the fact. WTF? Come on Pennsylvania, dig your heads out of your ass!

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
51. Yes, Tom Corbett knew about Sandusky long ago , I believe he was a big part
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 03:59 AM
Jun 2012

of the cover up. Corbett is a right wing pig, and he also should be held accountable.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
49. This must be a mistake. Didn't the jury know he's a famous football coach?
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:45 AM
Jun 2012

This is just inhumane! Poor Sandusky.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
56. low life scum
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 08:32 AM
Jun 2012

They better not send him to one of the country clubs. Graterford will do just fine. See how he makes out with the boys in that hell hole.

Someone tell me why this scum bothered to take this to trial. Yo rocket man you were gonna lose all along.

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
58. He didn't seem to think he did anything wrong
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:09 AM
Jun 2012

I got the impression that he didn't think he would be found guilty.

mzmolly

(50,987 posts)
61. How he can watch the now grown men he tortured as boys,
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:37 AM
Jun 2012

sob, recounting their stories and maintain in his mind, that he did nothing wrong, is beyond me.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
63. Severe mental illness bizarre. Mentally ill people think, say, and do very strange things.
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jun 2012

I have a good friend who has worked in emergency medical services and is a long-time sufferer of severe depression. His condition has been under control for many years with medication.

I had a conversation with him recently about another friend who committed suicide earlier this year. She had Borderline Personality Disorder. I was trying to understand her behavior in a rational manner.

My paramedic friend said "Just stop right there. Mentally ill people do weird shit because they are fucking mentally ill."

Stargazer09

(2,132 posts)
64. I know
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:58 PM
Jun 2012

Unfortunately, nobody took the trouble to stop him before he ruined the childhoods of so many children.

I hope that more people are charged/convicted because they covered for Sandusky.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
70. Amen to that.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 03:56 PM
Jun 2012

I'm afraid I've become so cynical about these things that I half-expected him to walk. We've sure seen a lot of other guilty parties skate away. I'm SO glad he couldn't. He deserves every book they throw at him.

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