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still_one

(92,164 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:32 AM Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders says he will vote for Hillary Clinton in November

Source: NBC News, reported on Bloomberg television

On Morning Joe:

"

Bernie Sanders says that he will vote for Hillary Clinton.

Asked on MSNBC's Morning Joe whether he will vote for Clinton in November, Sanders responded "Yes."

The Vermont senator, who has not yet formally ended his 2016 campaign, said that stopping Donald Trump from becoming president must be an overarching goal.

But Sanders also dismissed the idea that he should withdraw from the Democratic race now that Clinton has secured the nomination.

"Why would I want to do that when I want to fight to make sure that we have the best platform that we possibly can, that we win the most delegates that we can?" he said.

Sanders also insisted that his continuing presence in the race is not causing disunity in the Democratic Party.

"You talk about disunity. I talk about involving the American people in the political process," he said.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141499320#post10


Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/bernie-sanders-says-he-will-vote-hillary-clinton-n598251

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Bernie Sanders says he will vote for Hillary Clinton in November (Original Post) still_one Jun 2016 OP
Still waiting..... FarPoint Jun 2016 #1
Bend the knee? What crap. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #8
Is this a story from the Onion? Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #2
Careful. New rules. You're not breaking it, but coming close. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #4
No trying to provoke; it just seems to be stating the obvious Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #13
Read this about Bernie's taxes and Hillary's speeches. Maddow blog comments demeaning Bernie bjobotts Jun 2016 #65
Relax. Bernie Just Walked This Comment Back Actually billhicks76 Jun 2016 #66
No, he didn't. Beacool Jun 2016 #71
Not like the last election! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #74
He wants a platform that would benefit him, if he were to run again. Beacool Jun 2016 #85
Some people like a rigged system! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #88
Closed primaries is not rigging the system. Beacool Jun 2016 #89
Closed Primaries are Ok...Super Delegates Are Not billhicks76 Jun 2016 #92
He Did Too billhicks76 Jun 2016 #91
What are you talking about???? Beacool Jun 2016 #94
No, just reported the full link. From NBC, Morning Joe still_one Jun 2016 #5
Bernie Sanders: Yes, I WILL vote for Hillary Clinton in November. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #10
Thanks Surya still_one Jun 2016 #11
My pleasure! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #12
NO. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #45
Fifth stage reached. Nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #3
Try being positive now and then. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #14
Ain't going to happen. pangaia Jun 2016 #21
Negativity is too much fun like cocaine is too much fun. It's fun until it becomes a habit. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #34
Actually it is never fun. We only think so. pangaia Jun 2016 #57
If you are serious you may want to self delete. peace13 Jun 2016 #47
I believe this breaks the new rule. peace13 Jun 2016 #46
Gloating is not a nice thing to do. At least, being aware of the negative things that have been... xocet Jun 2016 #62
Please delete. HassleCat Jun 2016 #79
At long last. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #81
I Just Seen Him on MSNBC videohead5 Jun 2016 #6
I put the link up there from NBC news still_one Jun 2016 #7
Of course he will vote for her. There was never a doubt. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #9
They need our vote. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #77
Now can we stop bashing Bernie? Human101948 Jun 2016 #15
That sounds good to me still_one Jun 2016 #16
Bernie is still campaigning 72DejaVu Jun 2016 #18
This. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #19
He is campaigning for issues that every liberal should be in favor of... Human101948 Jun 2016 #23
exactly. thank you barbtries Jun 2016 #24
I think most resentment is because he is anti-establishment. Billionaires DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #32
Ive always supported HRC and I get that Gman Jun 2016 #35
Thank your Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #37
Absolutely -- He is talking to the issues that most Americans believe in but which have not Akamai Jun 2016 #40
I agree with HRC about 40% of the time. I agree with Bernie 95% of the time Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #43
You agree because Bernie does not shy away from pushing the liberal viewpoint... Human101948 Jun 2016 #44
I'm also an old time New Deal Socialist Democrat Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #49
He doesn't have to be a presidential candidate to do that 72DejaVu Jun 2016 #48
See what we are saying? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #84
"You talk about disunity. I talk about involving the American people in the political process," LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #53
Sorry....but you don't get to decide what "every liberal" should be for. msanthrope Jun 2016 #56
I mentioned a few issues that seem to be in favor with most liberals... Human101948 Jun 2016 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author TeamPooka Jun 2016 #55
Raising money for down ticket Democrats... Human101948 Jun 2016 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author TeamPooka Jun 2016 #73
We want a real revolution not a fake one! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #75
Bernie would never put this country in the hands of an insane man Loki Jun 2016 #17
I only wish he gave Colbert this interview last night mucifer Jun 2016 #20
Of course he will vote for Hillary! longship Jun 2016 #22
as he voted for Bill, his sentiment is the same here. retrowire Jun 2016 #25
There more to this than meets the eye! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #82
This surprises who exactly? Iggo Jun 2016 #26
Bernie, "Still not ready to endorse her" Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #27
Voting is an endorsement. . .the strongest one any person can make. Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #29
My post was what Bernie said on TV this morning, 6.24.2016 Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #31
No its Bernie saying this not ideal, this isn't where my heart is DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #33
A lot of people think this way. I do, but I am voting Democratic as I always do because I see Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #38
I'm going to avoid voting for Hillary directly. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2016 #41
Its important that trump is defeated, its important that the DNC adopt progressive ideals. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #93
Now that Hillary can see the #brexit results, she may start making concessions to Bernie. harun Jun 2016 #54
If anything, brexit will move politicians to the right, not left Democat Jun 2016 #58
#brexit = anti-immigration = Trump harun Jun 2016 #59
I would like to see them work together with or without brexit Democat Jun 2016 #60
They want fair trade not free trade. SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #87
Just as Hillary is not ready to endorse his positions but she'll come around.Ban fracking bjobotts Jun 2016 #67
Bernie was on Morning Joe-that is where is was asked if he would vote for Hillary. riversedge Jun 2016 #80
I'm with Bernie ! left-of-center2012 Jun 2016 #28
So is this suppose to make... coco77 Jun 2016 #30
I am not happy he didn't get the nom, but I will vote Democratic because the SCOTUS Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #39
That's my overriding reason for being reasonable. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2016 #42
Yeah for Bernie!!! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #36
The Democratic Convention cannot come soon enough, to put all this behind us. OnDoutside Jun 2016 #50
We will not put the issues behind us, but ahead of us. bjobotts Jun 2016 #68
Hear, hear!!!! Beacool Jun 2016 #70
Thank you, Senator Sanders. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #51
its about time ericson00 Jun 2016 #52
It is a good thing that Sen. Sanders is still trying to involve people in the political process.... xocet Jun 2016 #61
I'm sticking with Bernie all the way to the revolution! SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #90
Yawn......... Beacool Jun 2016 #69
Yeah, we'll send up a flair. sangfroid Jun 2016 #72
Damn! And trumpass just made a pitch to his supporters underpants Jun 2016 #76
Kissing the ring, finally. nm mr_liberal Jun 2016 #78
Hmmmm... UMTerp01 Jun 2016 #83
Well duh. Like we have any choice. roody Jun 2016 #86

FarPoint

(12,350 posts)
1. Still waiting.....
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:37 AM
Jun 2016

For Sanders to Endorse Hillary Clinton. Time to ' bend the knee" as in Game of Thrones.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
4. Careful. New rules. You're not breaking it, but coming close.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:42 AM
Jun 2016

Really, nobody, ... nobody should be surprised by an announcement such as this.

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
65. Read this about Bernie's taxes and Hillary's speeches. Maddow blog comments demeaning Bernie
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jun 2016

Why won't he disclose his tax returns etc and Hillary's paid speeches both seem to be more divisive than informative but I was surprised at how little Bernie makes.
"... It appears that Bernie was embarrassed about releasing his tax returns because of how little he makes. He eats $4 plates of spaghetti for lunch and up until half way through the race his suits were off the rack at "Gentleman's Warehouse" where you get 2 suits for the price of one and each suit is reversible polyester so each suit is in fact 2 jackets, 2 vests, and 2 pairs of trousers. His shoes were from "Payless". He drives a 1981 Dodge Colt. " -Jose Wales comment.
Gives some perspective on Bernie's motivations to continue on to the convention in order to influence the party platform. Clinton seems to agree with Sanders on many of his proposals since they also agree with what a majority of voters according o the polls claim they want.
Here's the link. http://www.weeklystandard.com/bernie-earned-less-in-year-than-hillary-made-in-single-speech/article/2001999

This demonstrates the 2 sides of the dem party that are coming together in this political revolution and the 2 views Hillary will represent in her 50 state political revolution.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
66. Relax. Bernie Just Walked This Comment Back Actually
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jun 2016

One hour later he came out with a statement saying "in all likelihood" he will vote for her. He's probably seeing how much he can insert liberal policies in the platform given that he garnered more votes for a 2nd place finish in history. Maybe he's also waiting to see if Hillary picks a progressive or centrist for VP.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
71. No, he didn't.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:33 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Fri Jun 24, 2016, 06:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Hillary had more than 17M people vote for her in 2008 and conceded 4 days after the last primary. She also didn't make any demands at the convention and released her delegates so that Obama could be nominated by acclamation. Hillary acted with class and was gracious in defeat.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
74. Not like the last election!
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jun 2016

It all depends on what you are trying to achieve. Bernie Sanders wants a Platform that reflects the obvious choices of the American people. Not like the last election, when Obama ran on Universal healthcare, but we got a bank bale out and Hillary care instead.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
85. He wants a platform that would benefit him, if he were to run again.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jun 2016

Which obviously, due to his age, he won't. He wants to get rid of super delegates and have only open primaries.

I strongly disagree with open primaries. His supporters could have bothered to find out the voting regulations of their states and joined the party ahead of the primaries. Why should anyone who doesn't belong to a party be allowed to decide on who that party's nominee should be? The hell with that!!! Have some skin in the game and join a party, if they want to vote in a primary.

As for the super delegates, I can take them or leave them. Since their implementation in 1984 they have never subverted the will of the people. The candidate who ended the primary season ahead in pledged delegates became the nominee. Sanders acts as if they didn't exist he would have won the nomination. In reality, it wouldn't have made any difference. Hillary is ahead by more than triple the pledged delegate advantage that Obama had in 2008, aside from having 3.7M more votes than Sanders.

Bottom line, I don't get why he thinks that he has the right to attempt to change the party's platform. Hillary didn't make similar demands in 2008, and Obama was only ahead by 102 pledged delegates. If he really wants to advocate against voter suppression, then he should demand that caucuses be eliminated. They are the most undemocratic process of them all.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
88. Some people like a rigged system!
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jun 2016

Party affiliation is at an all time low in the U.S. Look that up. States like New York have closed primaries for the sole purpose of excluding non-establishment candidates like Bernie, who didn't make speeches to, or get money from Wall Street.

People should not have to support a corrupt system in order to be allowed their Constitutional right to vote. The election process should be reformed so that any registered voter regardless of their political affiliation could vote for the candidate of their choice. In New York the state's closed primary process exclude nearly 3 million residents from voting on April 19.

It's a rigged system and everyone knows it, but some people like it, since they couldn't win otherwise.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
89. Closed primaries is not rigging the system.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jun 2016

No one stopped Sanders' supporters in NY from registering as a Democrat to vote for him in the primary. If they couldn't be bothered to know the voting regulations in NY, that's not the state's fault.

Independents have a right to vote, but they don't automatically have the right to vote on who should be the nominee of a party that they don't belong to. Why should they? Would you walk into the Elks Club, for example, and expect to vote on who runs it? Of course not, you would first have to be a member in good standing.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
92. Closed Primaries are Ok...Super Delegates Are Not
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:32 AM
Jun 2016

But when we don't allow independents in then we are encouraging them to start a major 3rd party. I thought we didn't want to do that.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
91. He Did Too
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:30 AM
Jun 2016

C'mon...we fact check here...this isnt FOX News...look for yourself...even DU has it in the news feed now.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
47. If you are serious you may want to self delete.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jun 2016

The above post breaks the rules and if you are serious, yours does as well.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
46. I believe this breaks the new rule.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:44 AM
Jun 2016

Best to self delete. The five stages of grief got a hide yesterday and you are continuing the attack.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
62. Gloating is not a nice thing to do. At least, being aware of the negative things that have been...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jun 2016

frequently used against Sen. Sanders, that is how your post comes across.

Is that how you intend it? Sure, it is only implied, but it is a very divisive remark to those who have had such remarks directed at them or at those whom they support.

In the new spirit of civility at DU, would you please retract your comment?

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
79. Please delete.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jun 2016

This "stages of grief" thing is gratuitous gloating, and an insult to many people in our party. Comments such as this just make it more difficult for Sanders supporters to get over their resentment.

still_one

(92,164 posts)
7. I put the link up there from NBC news
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:46 AM
Jun 2016

"Bernie Sanders says that he will vote for Hillary Clinton.

Asked on MSNBC's Morning Joe whether he will vote for Clinton in November, Sanders responded "Yes." "

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
77. They need our vote.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jun 2016

They don't really care how Bernie votes; it's the Bernie supporters they are worried about. He has made similar statements about how he would vote if he didn't get the nomination long ago.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
15. Now can we stop bashing Bernie?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jun 2016

Or will there be lingering resentment that he didn't say this earlier?

Bernie is still carrying on, working hard on the big issues that liberals support--income inequality, corporate money in politics, and health care for all.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
18. Bernie is still campaigning
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:32 AM
Jun 2016

Why is it acceptable for him to campaign, but not for others to campaign against him?

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
23. He is campaigning for issues that every liberal should be in favor of...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:45 AM
Jun 2016

Many are just attacking him because they resent the fact that he didn't concede to Hillary early on, and that makes them angry. Some seem to be natural bullies who just like kicking him again and again. But, he has now given his support to Hillary. A wider ranging statement of support will probably follow.

However, he is still pushing liberal solutions to issues that are critically important--campaign finance, income inequality and healthcare for all.

 

DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
32. I think most resentment is because he is anti-establishment. Billionaires
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jun 2016

not workers.....not the middle class, control the media and the narrative.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
37. Thank your
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jun 2016


I just donated again to his down ticket link. Supporting dems who care about us rthe people!!
 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
40. Absolutely -- He is talking to the issues that most Americans believe in but which have not
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:03 AM
Jun 2016

not been emphasized for many years -- the evils of "free trade," income inequality, global warming, bank regulations, the unbelievable college debt weighing down students, increased medical coverage, etc., etc.

Asking him to stop addressing these and other points is ludicrous, I believe.

As one who contributed to his campaign repeatedly, I urge him to continue to focus on these popular points.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
43. I agree with HRC about 40% of the time. I agree with Bernie 95% of the time
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jun 2016

I agree with Republicans 0% of the time.

I will vote for the Democratic candidate. 40% is better than 0%.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
44. You agree because Bernie does not shy away from pushing the liberal viewpoint...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:18 AM
Jun 2016

I understand that Hillary is politically adept and taking care to not stray too far from the "possible" but I think that it is important that she feel a constant unrelenting pressure from the left not to drift over to the Republicans in hopes of a groundbreaking "grand compromise."

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
49. I'm also an old time New Deal Socialist Democrat
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:50 AM
Jun 2016

Eleanor is one of my biggest influences in molding my political beliefs. In my eyes, the greatest first lady ever, followed Abigail Adams and then Michelle Obama.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
48. He doesn't have to be a presidential candidate to do that
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:47 AM
Jun 2016

Until he officially leaves the race, it's fair game for others to respond to him as a candidate. He has every right to campaign, but so does everyone else.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
84. See what we are saying?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jun 2016

Yes, but you are overlooking the rules say that nobody can talk about Hillary! However, they are bashing Bernie every day.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
53. "You talk about disunity. I talk about involving the American people in the political process,"
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:39 AM
Jun 2016

For some reason some on the Hillary band wagon just cannot see the later part of this statement, only the former. Baffling.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
56. Sorry....but you don't get to decide what "every liberal" should be for.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jun 2016

I'm not for protecting gun manufacturers, IMHO.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
63. I mentioned a few issues that seem to be in favor with most liberals...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jun 2016

Making the gun issue number one seems like a loser in the current political equation. Sad but true.

Response to 72DejaVu (Reply #18)

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
64. Raising money for down ticket Democrats...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jun 2016

And he's too stupid to have a kickback scheme for his own benefit.

Response to Human101948 (Reply #64)

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
75. We want a real revolution not a fake one!
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jun 2016

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-political-and-electoral-reform/

FEELTHEBERN.ORG

BERNIE SANDERS ON POLITICAL & ELECTORAL REFORM
Senator Bernie Sanders demands that the United States’ elected government represent us, its people. He observes a disturbing trend where the average citizen is disenfranchised, and fears that we are losing what makes America great — our system of democracy. Bernie has said:

“We are moving rapidly away from our democratic heritage into an oligarchic form of society where today we are experiencing a government of the billionaires, by the billionaires, and for the billionaires.”

Loki

(3,825 posts)
17. Bernie would never put this country in the hands of an insane man
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:27 AM
Jun 2016

like Trump. He's a pragmatist, he's a realist, and above all, he's an American. Thank you Bernie.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
25. as he voted for Bill, his sentiment is the same here.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:04 AM
Jun 2016

I'm happy I read Bernie's autobiography and understood this of him.

And since my opinion has always been in this election to just follow Bernie's lead, I can now comfortably say I will vote Hillary.

Voting Hillary will not reverse our problems, but it's a best braking system we've got.

First Brexit, next, Trump?

I think not.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
82. There more to this than meets the eye!
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jun 2016
http://observer.com/2016/02/if-sanders-loses-bernie-believers-will-take-the-dnc-down/

OBSERVER NEWS & POLOTICS

The Democratic Party may want to reconsider how they're gambling

By Michael Sainato • 02/25/16 12:45pm

Since 2009, the Democratic Party has lost 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats, over 900 state legislative seats and 12 governorships. Although most presidents’ political parties suffer losses in Congress, Republican gains under Barack Obama’s administration have been unprecedented. After the 2014 midterm elections, Democrats suffered so dramatically that the Democratic National Committee organized a task force to review how the party connects their core values with voters. While the rise of anti-establishment candidate Bernie Sanders should serve as a wake-up call, the Democratic establishment has not embraced his candidacy as a means to re-energize their voter base. Instead, leaders of the Party have fallen in line behind Hillary Clinton, who only further alienates the types of voters they should be courting.

Such anti-establishment sentiments are epitomized by Donald Trump’s successful emergence as frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, and Mr. Sanders’ emergence as a viable contender for the Democratic nomination. As former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich recently wrote, these candidates are a symptom of rebellion, not the cause of it.

“The establishment is having conniptions. They call Trump whacky and Sanders irresponsible. They charge that Trump’s isolationism and Bernie’s ambitious government programs will stymie economic growth,” Mr. Reich said. “The establishment doesn’t get that most Americans couldn’t care less about economic growth because for years they’ve got few of its benefits, while suffering most of its burdens in the forms of lost jobs and lower wages.”

Mr. Reich continued, arguing that—with respect to Mr. Trump and Mr. Sanders—no matter the results of the 2016 presidential primaries, revolt against the establishment will persist until meaningful reforms are enacted, or those in power are replaced by others more willing to make the changes Americans demand. Such demands won’t stop if Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic nomination—but will undoubtably result in Mr. Trump winning the presidency.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
27. Bernie, "Still not ready to endorse her"
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jun 2016

That is what Bernie just said on CBS this morning. He was not asked if he would vote for her, but said he is still not endorsing her. "There is more work and change to be done."

 

DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
33. No its Bernie saying this not ideal, this isn't where my heart is
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jun 2016

but Trump is worse.

He specifically stated he is not endorsing Hillary and he will remain in the race.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
38. A lot of people think this way. I do, but I am voting Democratic as I always do because I see
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jun 2016

the next president nominating three to four SCOTUS justices.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
41. I'm going to avoid voting for Hillary directly.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jun 2016

My conscience simply won't allow it. But I can pull the straight-democratic ticket and do my job without having to do much thinking.

Yes, she will be better than Herr DrumpfenFührer. We can agree on that much.

The revolution will continue. I'm with the revolution. It's the most American thing I can do.

Otherwise....for now... #IMWITHHILLARY!

 

DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
93. Its important that trump is defeated, its important that the DNC adopt progressive ideals.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:59 PM
Jun 2016

One won't come without the other.

harun

(11,348 posts)
54. Now that Hillary can see the #brexit results, she may start making concessions to Bernie.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:41 AM
Jun 2016

Going to wake a lot of politicians up.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
58. If anything, brexit will move politicians to the right, not left
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:10 PM
Jun 2016

Unless Sanders is a nationalist against immigration, how does he benefit from the brexit?

harun

(11,348 posts)
59. #brexit = anti-immigration = Trump
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jun 2016

It benefits Sanders priorities because Hillary may have to embrace them to win the election.

Meaning she would have to throw the Progressives a bone. If she thinks she can win without doing that, good luck to her.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
60. I would like to see them work together with or without brexit
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jun 2016

I think there are plenty of places where they find common ground.

I'm not sure how the brexit may change how Clinton speaks on immigration.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
87. They want fair trade not free trade.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jun 2016

You don't have to be a Nationalist to protect the borders. Every other country does. You couldn't even go to Mexico just to live there unless you could prove you would never be a burden on that country. Countries like Denmark and Sweden have free medical care from cradle to grave, free tuition to college, housing etc...because they are taking care of their own tax paying people.


EU nationals who are currently living and working in Britain will be allowed to stay in the country. They will not deport anyone currently in the country and restrictions will only be for new immigrants. Research has found that immigration had an effect on lower wages, especially for the lower paying jobs.


Sanders has campaigned against the TTP and all the bad trade agreements. This is trade agreements that bypass the public and makes corporations rich, while the people lose jobs and wages go down, they only need us for a market and on election day. All the EU treaties have been illegal, just like our unconstitutional trade agreements. NAFTA was passed without a debate in the congress, surely nobody thinks the Perot and Gore debate was O.K,

George W. Bush's Presidential campaign made fast track part of his platform in 2000. Bush made a speech at the annual Council of the Americas in New York, founded by David Rockefeller. The Council of the Americas played a huge role in the implementation and securing of TPA through Congress. The Trade Preferences Extension Act (TPA) of 2015, gave the Obama administration enhanced power to negotiate major trade agreements with Asia and Europe.

By leaving the EU Britain will no longer be subject to rulings by the European Court of Justice. This court rules on whether member states have broken EU treaties and if the U.S.A pulled out of these international trade agreements we would no longer have to abide by its judgments.



And it is true that a fall in Sterling is not always bad. Exports would be cheaper, and if the EU imposed trade tariffs on British goods those could be partly off set by having a weaker currency.

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
30. So is this suppose to make...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:27 AM
Jun 2016

all of his supporters jump on board if you want to know just do a poll.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
39. I am not happy he didn't get the nom, but I will vote Democratic because the SCOTUS
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jun 2016

is just too important.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
36. Yeah for Bernie!!!
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:47 AM
Jun 2016

He is a moral and honorable man. He is determined to see this thought to the convention. I have great respect for him and was deeply moved by his warm welcome during the sit in. Obviously his fellow members respect him!!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
70. Hear, hear!!!!
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jun 2016

We have a lot of work to do to defeat Trump, instead of dilly dallying about nonsense.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
61. It is a good thing that Sen. Sanders is still trying to involve people in the political process....
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jun 2016

It is also good that he is still trying to shape the party platform to something that will fit progressive ideals better than what it otherwise might.

Also, Sen. Sanders provides potential access to a substantial youth vote that Sec. Clinton was unable to achieve through her initially stated policies.

These potential voters will be needed when the election comes, so this news from Sen. Sanders is very welcome.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
90. I'm sticking with Bernie all the way to the revolution!
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jun 2016

You are right and the population is getting younger. The day of the baby boomers is over. I think the revolution has just gotten started.

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