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Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:02 PM

Ecuador ruling on Wikileaks' Assange due 'on Thursday'

Source: BBC

Ecuador's government has said it will make a decision on the fate of the Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, within 24 hours ...

Ecuador's deputy foreign minister Marco Albuja said the country's president would reveal his ruling on Thursday.

"The national government is considering its position and the president will give us his instructions tomorrow," he told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation ...

UK government representatives met the Ecuadorian Ambassador Anna Alban at the Foreign Office on Wednesday for talks Ms Alban described as "cordial and constructive".



Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18529726

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Reply Ecuador ruling on Wikileaks' Assange due 'on Thursday' (Original post)
struggle4progress Jun 2012 OP
hrmjustin Jun 2012 #1
pam4water Jun 2012 #6
hrmjustin Jun 2012 #17
SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2012 #2
EFerrari Jun 2012 #3
clang1 Jun 2012 #5
Zorro Jun 2012 #16
clang1 Jun 2012 #19
Zorro Jun 2012 #20
ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2012 #4
warrprayer Jun 2012 #15
solarman350 Jun 2012 #7
randome Jun 2012 #18
clang1 Jun 2012 #8
struggle4progress Jun 2012 #10
clang1 Jun 2012 #13
struggle4progress Jun 2012 #11
struggle4progress Jun 2012 #12
struggle4progress Jun 2012 #9
struggle4progress Jun 2012 #14

Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:47 PM

1. they will hand him over.

the uk and the us will give Equador what they want out of this. he needed to pick cuba.or venezuela.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 04:00 AM

6. I was wondering why he did pick Venezuela also. n/t

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Response to pam4water (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:24 AM

17. maybe he had to run for it. n/t

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:20 AM

2. Ecuador is a fairly corrupt country. And quite dangerous. Why did he choose it?

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:38 AM

3. WTF? You must be talking about some parallel Ecuador?

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 01:43 AM

5. re: WTF? You must be talking about some parallel Ecuador?

 

He probably never been there. Barely knows where it is on a map.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:00 AM

16. Don't kid yourself

Ecuador is dangerous and getting more so. And its government and judicial system is notoriously corrupt.

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Response to Zorro (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 05:44 PM

19. re: Don't kid yourself

 

Don't kid yourself. I am quite sure the OP knows how 'corrupt' it is. And getting more coorupt? No, things are trending the other way actually while you know who has been focused elsewhere. Who are you trying to fool?

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Response to clang1 (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:36 PM

20. You sound confused

If you are disagreeing with my comment that Ecuador is becoming more dangerous, then you are naively unaware of the increasing level of crime in the country.

If there is evidence that the Ecuadorean government and judiciary is trending toward less corruption, please point it out. I don't think the Ecuadoreans would necessarily agree.

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 01:34 AM

4. Well its certainly not Denmark.

But its not Afghanistan either.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:54 AM

15. From what I've been reading

Ecuador is one of the most progressive countries on earth. They actually have protection of the ecosystem as part of the constitution.

"Ecuador has the first constitution to recognize the rights of nature. The protection of the nation's biodiversity is an explicit national priority as stated in the National Plan of "Buen Vivir", or good living, objective 4, Guarantee the rights of nature, policy 1: "Sustainably conserve and manage the natural heritage including its land and marine biodiversity which is considered a strategic sector"."

(from Wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuador#Biodiversity )

You have a lot less problems as a small country if you don't have a U.S. embassy...




And by paying attention to who is NOT paying attention, much can be learned...



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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 06:18 AM

7. I'm so looking forward to the Wikileaks "insurance.aes256" File's decryption key...

 

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I'm so looking forward to that decryption key being "published to the Internets-- if that's what it comes to...I have the encrypted file on my computer...

http://yourdaddy.net/2011/08/31/wikileaks-uploads-an-encrypted-mystery-file-the-decryption-key-will-come-when

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Response to solarman350 (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 11:02 AM

18. It's a farce.

There is no 'doomsday' decryption key. If Assange was truly interested in putting the truth out there, why would he wait all this time?

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 07:16 AM

8. ­What’s inside the indictment?

 

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/02/29/lacking-evidence-espionage-frabricated-sealed-assange-indictment-87562/

WikiLeaks began exposing more than 5 million emails apparently obtained in a hack of Stratfor. The emails, dated between July 2004 and late December 2011, give a glimpse into how Stratfor gathers confidential information from paid insiders, including senior state officials, and provides it to large corporations and US government agencies.


­What’s inside the indictment?

It is unclear if Stratfor really possesses the indictment against Assange, as the company refuses to give any detailed comments on the recent leak of its email database, only saying the leak was “a deplorable, unfortunate – and illegal – breach of privacy.”

The US Department of Justice is also refusing to comment on whether anyone has been charged in the sealed indictment, journalists from rawstory.com reported after contacting DOJ officials.

Currently, the US wants Assange to testify against Manning, a former US soldier who is charged with espionage and aiding the enemy. But it is quite possible that Assange would face the same charges should he come face to face with American justice.On February 27, WikiLeaks began exposing more than 5 million emails apparently obtained in a hack of Stratfor. The emails, dated between July 2004 and late December 2011, give a glimpse into how Stratfor gathers confidential information from paid insiders, including senior state officials, and provides it to large corporations and US government agencies.

Assange is appealing his extradition to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning in relation to sexual assault allegations. Sweden, however, has a bilateral agreement with the US on extradition procedures – if sent to Sweden, Assange could swiftly end up in a US court.
US prosecutors insist they can prove Manning’s connection to Assange and WikiLeaks, but so far all the evidence seems to be inferential. The investigation refers to the soldier’s chat logs in which Manning discussed WikiLeaks and called himself an informant.

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We all know what this means:

Currently, the US wants Assange to testify against Manning, a former US soldier who is charged with espionage and aiding the enemy. But it is quite possible that Assange would face the same charges should he come face to face with American justice.

Indictment, shmictment. WTF ever.

And more theatrics

http://www.rt.com/news/assange-fbi-julian-us-991/

Assange guests grilled: Is FBI collecting ‘evidence’ for indictment?


And I guess this is all just RANDOM SHIT Huh

The Cypherpunks episode of The Julian Assange Show has not even premiered on RT, but a pot of trouble is already boiling and Jeremy Zimmerman, a co-founder of cyber freedoms group La Quadrature du Net, has got a taste of it.


Jeremy Zimmerman was detained on his way from the US to France after filming the episode of Assange’s show, during which he was interviewed with two other Cypherpunks movement activists.

Zimmerman was grabbed by “self-identified FBI agents,” reports the WikiLeaks whistleblowing website. After that he spent several hours in quite another sort of the interview. The officers asked him about various details regarding Julian Assange. When he asked about his rights, the cyber activist was threatened with arrest and imprisonment.


“We have confirmed US authorities have this week detained and interrogated multiple Europeans about Assange,” reads the WikiLeaks Tweet.


Smari McCarthy, a co-founder and board member of the Icelandic Digital Freedoms Society, has also been stopped while entering the US, the source adds. McCarthy was approached by three US officials in Washington DC, and asked to become an informer.


At the moment McCarthy’s whereabouts are unknown, though he maintains communication with the Icelandic MP Birgitta Jonsdottir.


In earlier incidents, Nabeel Rajab, a Bahraini human rights activist, was beaten up at Bahrain’s international airport on his return from Lebanon in April. Then he was detained for half a day.


The Bahraini authorities have not commented on the reasons behind the arrest, but it took place directly after Rajab appeared on Episode 4 of The Julian Assange Show. In the episode, Rajab said that on the same day he announced on his Twitter account that he was going to appear on RT his house was surrounded by almost 100 policemen armed with machine guns – but luckily he was not there at the time.


Fears are high these are not random incidents, but that evidence against Julian Assange is already being collected in the US. American senators and top officials have repeatedly accused the scandal-stirring whistleblower of espionage and terrorism, some even saying he should be tried by a court martial and sentenced to death.

Following the UK Supreme Court ruling last week that Assange should be extradited to Sweden, where he is to be interviewed about sex crime allegations, the concern is that the Scandinavian country will not be his final destination and that he will then be extradited to the US, where he might well face indictment before a grand jury.


Even usual US crap like this: When he asked about his rights, the cyber activist was threatened with arrest and imprisonment
Nothing but Buffoonery and Buffoons.

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Response to clang1 (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 07:50 AM

10. Wikileaks Stratfor email dump could be FBI sting

Wikileaks obtained Stratfor e-mail from group infiltrated by FBI...
By Patrick Gray

March 7, 2012 --

Global law enforcement swooped overnight, arresting a handful of online miscreants who, between them, have generated more headlines than the rest of the online underground put together.

That's right, LulzSec has been comprehensively pwnt. Some were arrested yesterday in raids, others, arrested some time ago, had their indictments unsealed by the courts.

But it was the news that online Anonymous hero Sabu, aka Hector Xavier Monsegur, had been acting as an FBI snitch since August 2011 that came as a shock to many ...

http://risky.biz/wlfbi

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:00 AM

13. Now you are posting some interesting stuff for further reading

 

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Thanks. Sorry I used the word gibberish in that post. You were not clear in what you were writing. The guesses as to the origins of those stratfor emails aside, Lulzsec has nothing to do with Assange and nothing in those links changes anything so far as Assanges situation. ZERO. I see FOX news too. I take my 'Sorry' back. So what if some shit was mailed to Wikileaks so far as Assange and his asylum case. Whats your point? I don't really see it. Are you trying to say they were trying to somehow directly setup Assange? Oh, he was too smart for that. It is one of the reasons he distanced himself from WikiLeaks after the shit hit the fan with the release of the doc Manning provided. Fail. And if half of this is just to say there is no indictment or no draft indictment, well dude you have wasted a lot of time here on this. Assange has enough for asylum even if there is no indictment YET. Assange knows very well that he is dealing with snakes. He also knows these snakes would do anything they can to tie him or WikiLeaks to Lulzsec. What a f'ing load o'shit all this is. Dirty swine.

Just contemptible behavior this is. Then the shit iceing on the cake: Even usual US crap like this: When he asked about his rights, the cyber activist was threatened with arrest and imprisonment
Nothing but Buffoonery and Buffoons. I mean this is the sort of country we are living in? For God's sake.

The thing that really gets me too is Wikileaks is shit we all already mostly know anyway. Maybe if we did not have criminals in government routinely using the business of state for their own perverted and greedy interests etc, stuff like this wouldn't happen and they wouldn't have anything to hide then nor have their collective asses hanging out in the open stinking up the place along with the dead bodies that that surround them that are the results of their policies and actions .

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Response to clang1 (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 07:53 AM

11. LulzSec frontman Sabu was FBI informant, fed Stratfor docs to Wikileaks from an FBI-owned computer

By Xeni Jardin at 9:06 am Wednesday, Mar 7

The Guardian has more on the big hacking news which Fox News broke yesterday (as noted in a post by Rob). "Sabu," the trash-talking, self-appointed leader of LulzSec, has been working for the FBI for the last six months. The FBI says he helped the US and various European governments identify and arrest five alleged LulzSec members charged with participating in defacement, DDOSing, and "doxing" against high-profile government and corporate targets. Sabu (above) is, in now identified as Hector Xavier Monsegur, a 28-year-old unemployed Puerto Rican guy living in New York, and a father of two. He was charged with 12 criminal counts of conspiracy to engage in "computer hacking and other crimes" last year, pled guilty in August, 2011, then "snitched" on his LulzSec friends.

Here's the FBI news release, which notably omits the names of any prosecutors (perhaps for fear of Anonymous attack) ...

http://boingboing.net/2012/03/07/lulzsec-frontman-sabu-was-fbi.html

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Response to clang1 (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 07:55 AM

12. LulzSec Indictment Reveals WikiLeaks Stratfor Emails Came From FBI

Posted by Alexander Higgins
March 7, 2012 at 3:08 pm

... An FBI indictment against the LulzSec hacking group reveals the groups leader, SABU, was really a star government inform working for the FBI.

The 71 page indictment, embedded below, also contains many other startling revelations including the fact that the leaked Strafor files were place on an FBI server in New York under the direction of the groups leader, which raises questions about the credibility of the files and how they were transferred from the control of the FBI and into the hands of WikiLeaks to be published ...

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/03/07/lulzsec-indictment-reveals-wikileaks-stratfor-emails-fbi-91402/

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 07:45 AM

9. Ecuador’s president to decide today on Julian Assange asylum request

Published on Thursday 21 June 2012 12:15

... The country’s deputy foreign minister, Marco Albuja, said President Rafael Correa would make a decision within the day.

“The national government is considering its position and the president will give us his instructions tomorrow,” Mr Albuja said.

Staff at Ecuador’s London embassy confirmed a decision was expected from Quito today ...

http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/ecuador-s-president-to-decide-today-on-julian-assange-asylum-request-1-2368023

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Response to struggle4progress (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:28 AM

14. ... The Swedish ministry of justice issued a statement saying: "We have noted that Mr Assange seeks

asylum. The European arrest warrant is valid. We assume that Britain will carry out the decision made by their supreme court" ...

Several high-profile figures have supported Assange since his arrest in December 2010, including the film director Ken Loach and socialite and charity fundraiser Jemima Khan, who each offered £20,000 as surety. Other supporters included Bianca Jagger and the veteran leftwinger Tony Benn.

Khan voiced her surprise at his move, writing on Twitter: "I had expected him to face the allegations. I am as surprised as anyone by this."

Jagger wrote on Twitter: "I would like to set the record straight. I didn't post bail for Julian Assange" ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/21/julian-assange-ecuador-decision-asylum

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