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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:18 AM Jun 2016

BREAKING 'The Greatest of All Time': Muhammad Ali Dead at 74

Source: NBC

Too soon. An icon passes.

Muhammad Ali, the silver-tongued boxer and civil rights champion who famously proclaimed himself "The Greatest" and then spent a lifetime living up to the billing, is dead.

Ali died Friday at a Phoenix-area hospital, where he had spent the past few days being treated for respiratory complications, a family spokesman confirmed to NBC News. He was 74.

"After a 32-year battle with Parkinson's disease, Muhammad Ali has passed away at the age of 74. The three-time World Heavyweight Champion boxer died this evening," Bob Gunnell, a family spokesman, told NBC News.

Ali had suffered for three decades from Parkinson's Disease, a progressive neurological condition that slowly robbed him of both his legendary verbal grace and his physical dexterity. A funeral service is planned in his hometown of Louisville, Kentucky.

Even as his health declined, Ali did not shy from politics or controversy, releasing a statement in December criticizing Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's proposal to ban Muslims from entering the United States. "We as Muslims have to stand up to those who use Islam to advance their own personal agenda," he said.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/







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BREAKING 'The Greatest of All Time': Muhammad Ali Dead at 74 (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 OP
Damn. joshcryer Jun 2016 #1
Only 4 years older than me! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #7
And me! Basic LA Jun 2016 #88
This is killing me bravenak Jun 2016 #2
Very sad. He was bigger than life. A sportsman poet. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #5
Oh yes. He most certainly was a poet. bravenak Jun 2016 #6
2016 is a brutal damn year. joshcryer Jun 2016 #11
One of the most evil years ever bravenak Jun 2016 #14
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #21
I am shocked that you cannot just let this be about a great legend bravenak Jun 2016 #28
+1 Trenzalore Jun 2016 #34
Thank you, jurors SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #38
That was totally uncalled for. Turin_C3PO Jun 2016 #36
It's fine. People are feeling very agitated bravenak Jun 2016 #42
I alerted, but somebody got there before me! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #51
They were quick!!! I alerted too but was too late bravenak Jun 2016 #59
Good, it will go to the Admins. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #159
I think people are pissed that their candidate has lost so they lash out at us bravenak Jun 2016 #160
Unfortunately I'm not shocked .. that's too par for the course. Disingenuous personal Cha Jun 2016 #80
It's just unnecessary on this thread bravenak Jun 2016 #89
Just saw this photo.. thought you would like it.. I like your sig pic of Ali. Cha Jun 2016 #165
Rats come out of the woodwork to gnaw on the bones of the dead, and disparage the living. NBachers Jun 2016 #90
It shows who people really are. How they behave during bad times like this. bravenak Jun 2016 #91
Yes, it really shows who this "kind" "peace loving" person really is. Shame on him! lunamagica Jun 2016 #104
Some of the peaceniks seem to be fightniks when they get angry bravenak Jun 2016 #105
Wow. The disrespect for Ali brer cat Jun 2016 #112
Truly sad bravenak Jun 2016 #132
Unnecessary. Jesus Malverde Jun 2016 #39
I understand your feelings Gothmog Jun 2016 #131
God Damnit. phazed0 Jun 2016 #3
So sad - love to the family and friends. He will be missed. He was the Greatest ! ciaobaby Jun 2016 #4
Oh, no. Warpy Jun 2016 #8
Can you imagine what the right wing would do to him today? hibbing Jun 2016 #9
No worse than the south did to him when he was a kid who'd just taken Olympic gold Warpy Jun 2016 #53
BREAKING: Muhammad Ali has died at age 74. elleng Jun 2016 #10
Thanks. I found it on the NBC site. Already edited. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #30
This year just keeps getting worse and worse, as far as losing amazing people. bullwinkle428 Jun 2016 #12
RIP Quackers Jun 2016 #13
I am saddened... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #15
Tears rolling down again. montana_hazeleyes Jun 2016 #16
Mine too... Ali was the greatest, no doubt. RIP Ali. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #133
So sad, RIP Muhammad Ali. eom UtahLib Jun 2016 #17
Damn. Sad to hear. Onlaketime Jun 2016 #18
So sad tandot Jun 2016 #19
Link from NBC ailsagirl Jun 2016 #20
Beat you to it...already edited the OP. Thanks! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #24
Go in peace uppityperson Jun 2016 #22
No Viet Cong. Called Me Nigger Ptah Jun 2016 #23
Thanks for that. Jesus Malverde Jun 2016 #43
There it is! montana_hazeleyes Jun 2016 #48
Great Video Stallion Jun 2016 #74
I was so proud of him when he did that.... ReRe Jun 2016 #94
Thanks for posting that. He sure told it like it was. nt raccoon Jun 2016 #110
He paid an enormous price for that BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #113
Oh yeah. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #135
Could you imagine the shit-storm if an athlete said that, today? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #138
There it is plain and simple. JEB Jun 2016 #146
Ugh bluestateguy Jun 2016 #25
Rest In Power cloudythescribbler Jun 2016 #26
He will be missed Old Vet Jun 2016 #27
In Numerology it is a 9 year one of endings and humanitarian works. bkkyosemite Jun 2016 #29
Well, it's certainly shaping up as the year of "passings". :( Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #63
He was special rhett o rick Jun 2016 #31
+1 million. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #99
A true icon. One of a kind. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #32
( ) Jack Rabbit Jun 2016 #33
Rope a dope with evil with righteous bobbin' and weavin' alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #35
. littlemissmartypants Jun 2016 #37
OH, FUCK NO! MY BUD. DemoTex Jun 2016 #40
sorry to hear this. a Terrible sport, but no one was faster in the ring. May he rest in Peace still_one Jun 2016 #41
... Duppers Jun 2016 #44
He was a colossus — the greatest. One of my heroes. RIP Ali. Greatest champ ever. brush Jun 2016 #45
He was an inspiration to me, and millions of others Babel_17 Jun 2016 #46
He's sparring with the archangels now--nice to think of him as he was in his heyday, pre-Parkinsons. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #58
( ) me b zola Jun 2016 #47
He jpmonk91 Jun 2016 #49
we had a hero KT2000 Jun 2016 #50
Damn, just saw it. Don't cry often, but this is sad. But we are lucky we knew him. Hoyt Jun 2016 #52
The Greatest Ambassador for Peace kyburbonkid Jun 2016 #54
Thanks for sharing that. Touching back story. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #60
He dared to speak truth to power. And he saved many lives. raging moderate Jun 2016 #126
No one calls him Cassius Clay anymore. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #55
Very first reply on that forum we love to bash did call him that. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #116
God damn it. :( romanic Jun 2016 #56
There will never be another Muhammad Ali. PoliticalMalcontent Jun 2016 #57
Oh man... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #61
*sigh* Lithos Jun 2016 #62
R.I.P. imari362 Jun 2016 #64
Ali was such a talented man. It's a shame his only road to success was via boxing. nt valerief Jun 2016 #65
Sadly ironic that boxing was his ticket to world fame, but that damage from Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #68
We Should Celebrate Sports If only For Bringing People Together Stallion Jun 2016 #76
^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #77
A Life of Towering Significance TygrBright Jun 2016 #66
"...the integrity of living a human life on their own terms"... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #72
Thanks for posting. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #67
My sad pleasure. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #70
RIP Boldine Jun 2016 #69
RIP a true champion and a great humanitarian andym Jun 2016 #71
So sad ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #73
How sad Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2016 #75
His greatest triumph was surviving three decades with Parkinson's. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #78
The DU comes together MFM008 Jun 2016 #79
Mostly yes, although one got hidden up thread. Just couldn't help Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #86
The Greatest… dhill926 Jun 2016 #81
He can now rest easy UMTerp01 Jun 2016 #82
Muhammad.... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #83
The Greatest!!! Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #84
"I know where I'm going and I know the truth, lovemydog Jun 2016 #85
Probably had a bigger effect on racial issues than MLK ghostsinthemachine Jun 2016 #87
Damn is right. Just DAMN IT! longship Jun 2016 #92
So very sad, a remarkable human being, larger than life. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2016 #93
That's a shame daleo Jun 2016 #95
I hope he gets back together with his friend and biggest promoter, Howard Cosell PSPS Jun 2016 #96
BBC link to live reaction nitpicker Jun 2016 #97
The champ is here. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #98
My only regret RandySF Jun 2016 #100
What a life he led! Marrah_G Jun 2016 #101
Great thread about a great man! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #102
RIP, sir. You were so much more than a boxer. Rest where all wounds are healed and no illness is. Hekate Jun 2016 #103
RIP, Champ. lunamagica Jun 2016 #106
Rest in peace, Muhammad Ali. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #107
Welcome, Uncle Joe. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #129
there will never be... quickesst Jun 2016 #108
R.I.P. Champ LongTomH Jun 2016 #109
Thank you for all the things you taught us about living jwirr Jun 2016 #111
Damn. R.I.P. BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #114
Great photo! Odin2005 Jun 2016 #140
A beautiful man, a great athlete, brer cat Jun 2016 #115
He was and always will be Loki Jun 2016 #117
He was the greatest. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #118
Rest in Peace Stuart G Jun 2016 #119
'The Greatest' Sunlei Jun 2016 #120
. Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #121
Knew it was bound to happen an always though he was given extra time to share his grace ..... marble falls Jun 2016 #122
A true man of conscience. R.I.P. sinkingfeeling Jun 2016 #123
Farewell Muhammad Ali and Thank You Donkees Jun 2016 #124
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.” IronLionZion Jun 2016 #125
Me, We! Deuce Jun 2016 #127
Rest In Power, Champ. DinahMoeHum Jun 2016 #128
A great man-may he rest in peace Gothmog Jun 2016 #130
In his prime, best I ever saw...interesting comment below by him on Vietnam and the draft EndElectoral Jun 2016 #134
He was nearly destroyed for that comment. He would not be silenced. JEB Jun 2016 #143
I hadn't heard anything about the draft, christx30 Jun 2016 #147
He was right. roamer65 Jun 2016 #150
. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #136
We have lost so many great people this year... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #137
Rest in peace Champ ... AikenYankee Jun 2016 #139
What an amazing person. sofa king Jun 2016 #141
... stage left Jun 2016 #142
I'll selfishly admit to being grateful our time on earth coincided Auggie Jun 2016 #144
. underpants Jun 2016 #145
Parkinson's Disease sucks. It is completely debilitating, and Ali had it for 34 years. PatrickforO Jun 2016 #148
requeiscat in pace, brave soul. niyad Jun 2016 #149
are you all familiar with the ali center? niyad Jun 2016 #151
Our world is darker, a shining light. Gone DiverDave Jun 2016 #152
sadness.....I always loved knowing he was here, in the world with us. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #153
Damn it, damn it, damn it! potone Jun 2016 #154
He was a great hero lovuian Jun 2016 #155
Did not know much about him, but sorry to hear of his death. Oneironaut Jun 2016 #156
K&R for the greatest.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #157
I was in the sports memorabilia business and had the great pleasure NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #158
RIP. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #161
A Great Human Being Has Left Us colsohlibgal Jun 2016 #162
loved him Skittles Jun 2016 #163
I remember the '96 Olympics and Ali carrying the torch .. what an important time that was watching YOHABLO Jun 2016 #164

Response to bravenak (Reply #2)

Cha

(296,778 posts)
80. Unfortunately I'm not shocked .. that's too par for the course. Disingenuous personal
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:40 AM
Jun 2016

attacks are their raison d'etre.

Sorry about the vicious, dishonest personal attack of that poster.

And, for Ali's passing~

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
89. It's just unnecessary on this thread
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:11 AM
Jun 2016

I wish people could drop the partisanship for a while and mourn the passing of a legend. Very hurtful.

Cha

(296,778 posts)
165. Just saw this photo.. thought you would like it.. I like your sig pic of Ali.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jun 2016

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9:45 AM - 4 Jun 2016
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https://theobamadiary.com/2016/06/04/rest-in-power-muhammad-ali/
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
91. It shows who people really are. How they behave during bad times like this.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:15 AM
Jun 2016

Glad to see the jury was not having it today

Warpy

(111,124 posts)
8. Oh, no.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jun 2016

I hope his family all realize that he will be sorely missed and they have a lot of company in their grief.

hibbing

(10,094 posts)
9. Can you imagine what the right wing would do to him today?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:24 AM
Jun 2016

Spoke out loudly against the Vietnam War and poverty, converted to Islam, in addition to a whole lot more.


Peace

Warpy

(111,124 posts)
53. No worse than the south did to him when he was a kid who'd just taken Olympic gold
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:51 AM
Jun 2016

He always managed to piss off all the right people.

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
16. Tears rolling down again.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:28 AM
Jun 2016

He is an absolute hero of mine since I was a young teenager and he just had become champ. And he has done so, so much more. You are so loved.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
94. I was so proud of him when he did that....
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:37 AM
Jun 2016

Stood up and gave it right back to them white boys. He had no fear. Shite, I thought he was very well spoken. What he said was never lost on anyone.

Never ever be afraid to speak truth to power, truth to ignorance, truth to bigotry, truth in the face of deceit. Never ever abandon your convictions.

All's quiet now and Ali is going home.

BeyondGeography

(39,341 posts)
113. He paid an enormous price for that
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:55 AM
Jun 2016

Banned from his profession for more than three years in the prime of his career (ages 25-28). No athlete ever made such a courageous choice. Taking a Muslim name in the mid-60s didn't exactly endear him to white America either. Ali went out on a limb, took his stands and just about the whole world was won over within a decade. The one and only. RIP, Champ.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
138. Could you imagine the shit-storm if an athlete said that, today?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jun 2016

Imagine if somebody had said that Islamists never called them the N-Word. the Corporate MSM would destroy them.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
146. There it is plain and simple.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jun 2016

You want me to go and fight and you won't even stand up for me here at home.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
31. He was special
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:34 AM
Jun 2016

Clay comes out to meet Liston and Liston starts to retreat,
if Liston goes back an inch farther he'll end up in a ringside seat.
Clay swings with his left, Clay swings with his right,
Look at young Cassius carry the fight
Liston keeps backing, but there's not enough room,
It's a matter of time till Clay lowers the boom.
Now Clay lands with a right, what a beautiful swing,
And the punch raises the Bear clean out of the ring.
Liston is still rising and the ref wears a frown,
For he can't start counting till Sonny goes down.
Now Liston is disappearing from view, the crowd is going frantic,
But radar stations have picked him up, somewhere over the Atlantic.
Who would have thought when they came to the fight?
That they'd witness the launching of a human satellite.
Yes the crowd did not dream, when they put up the money,
That they would see a total eclipse of the Sonny.

DemoTex

(25,389 posts)
40. OH, FUCK NO! MY BUD.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:41 AM
Jun 2016

I posted my "Breakfast With the Champion" here a few years ago. I had breakfast with Mohammad Ali in about 1998. I'll try to find that post. I am sad.

still_one

(92,060 posts)
41. sorry to hear this. a Terrible sport, but no one was faster in the ring. May he rest in Peace
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jun 2016

Condolences to his family

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
58. He's sparring with the archangels now--nice to think of him as he was in his heyday, pre-Parkinsons.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:56 AM
Jun 2016

KT2000

(20,567 posts)
50. we had a hero
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:49 AM
Jun 2016

he was never bought by the love that was showered on him. He insisted upon respect be shown to him and others. A good man has passed.

kyburbonkid

(251 posts)
54. The Greatest Ambassador for Peace
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:53 AM
Jun 2016

In Louisville ALI is king. He is beloved by everyone. It wasn't always so. When my friends and I (all white btw) got together after Jr Highschool classes let out no one could stand "the Lip". Everyday, we where bombarded by Vietnam, Louisville's own racial segregation problems, and Nixon, civil rights, and Woodstock. I remember our political science teacher putting Nixon in the group of the nation's top 4 presidents of all time!??!? We would get special permission from our parents to stay up and watch the fights with "Howard Cosell". What a wonderful time. About 10 of us all staring at a small B/W TV. As much as we hated him, you had to admire him. When the draft caught up with Ali, and he "got religious". In our little junior minds he was just dodging the draft, but he stood his ground and took the new name ":Mohamed Ali" and talked of a strange religion called Islam and he became a Muslim. At the time my buddies and I were all turning decidedly against Vietnam, every day there was an announcement on the PA of a senior student being killed in Vietnam. Me and my jr hs friends all agreed no-one should go that war, and it should end. Then came his big fights; the guy was like amazing. Any sense of racism from us disappeared. He wasn't about hate, war, politics, racism. He was about representing Peace.

Ali will always be fighting for Peace.
That is what he does.

It's sad. I feel I lost my hero.

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
126. He dared to speak truth to power. And he saved many lives.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:48 AM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:54 PM - Edit history (1)

You are right; he was a true hero. And, speaking of "the Lip," I thought at the time how strange it was that an equally lippy but far less articulate and far less idealistic athlete, Joe Namath, was admired by many in the press and the public, while Muhammed Ali was rebuked by many, as though he had no right to speak. I think his perceptive arguments against the Vietnam war were too accurate for their taste. Also too effective.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,939 posts)
116. Very first reply on that forum we love to bash did call him that.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:04 AM
Jun 2016
RIP Cassius.

2 posted on 2016-06-04, 1:23:09 AM by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
57. There will never be another Muhammad Ali.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:55 AM
Jun 2016

I respect Muhammad Ali for standing up for what he believed in even against popular opinion and the government.

A man who had convictions. I have the utmost respect for what he stood for, made all the more impressive by the racism he had to overcome.

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
61. Oh man...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:00 AM
Jun 2016

...brother was badass and right on and everything else good I could say about him. Really admired that man.

RIP Muhammad.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
68. Sadly ironic that boxing was his ticket to world fame, but that damage from
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:11 AM
Jun 2016

the sport destroyed his poetic "silver-tongue".

Stallion

(6,473 posts)
76. We Should Celebrate Sports If only For Bringing People Together
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jun 2016

...as a 8 year old in Dallas, Texas my first hero was named Jerry LeVias who happened to be the first African American who received a football scholarship to the old Southwest Conference. You can't hate your heroes especially when you are too young to understand why people hate another just because of the color of their skin

To all those sports heroes like Jerry Levias, Jackie Robinson, Jesse Owens, Muhammad Ali and thousands of others in hundreds of communities and in all walks of life-Thanks for bring us together through sports. Sports, Entertainment and Music have played such an important role in Americans accepting people that a different from their own

TygrBright

(20,753 posts)
66. A Life of Towering Significance
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:10 AM
Jun 2016

If I had to name the people during my lifetime who did the most to demonstrate the integrity of living a human life on their own terms, he'd be right up there at the top of the list.

Go gently, gentle warrior.

respectfully,
Bright

Boldine

(86 posts)
69. RIP
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:11 AM
Jun 2016
Champions aren't made in the gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them: a desire, a dream, a vision.
Muhammed Ali

May he rest in peace.
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
78. His greatest triumph was surviving three decades with Parkinson's.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:37 AM
Jun 2016

Thanks for your courage, thanks for your defiance. Thanks for your strength.

All honor to The Greatest.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
86. Mostly yes, although one got hidden up thread. Just couldn't help
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:50 AM
Jun 2016

politicizing a rare moment of common humanity.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
82. He can now rest easy
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:43 AM
Jun 2016

Very saddened to hear this news. Muhammad Ali fought a greater fight in my opinion in battling Parkinson's Disease for over 30 years. He did it with such grace and dignity. He fought such a good fight and I just hope that he went peacefully and celebrate his life and the fact that he is now at eternal rest.

I need 2016 to stop doing THE MOST though with our legends!!!! Too much!! RIP to The Greatest!!! Very sad day!!

LenaBaby61

(6,972 posts)
83. Muhammad....
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:44 AM
Jun 2016

You know not the problems of this world any longer...






There will never be another Muhammad Ali: Perfect, yet humanly imperfect.

My condolences to Muhammad Ali's family, friends and fellow fans all over the world....

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
85. "I know where I'm going and I know the truth,
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:49 AM
Jun 2016

and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."

RIP Muhammed Ali

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
87. Probably had a bigger effect on racial issues than MLK
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:51 AM
Jun 2016

My hero. The guy who got people like my Dad into thinking that maybe, just possibly, that black people might be just like everyone else. He also got them thinking that the Viet Nam war was bullshit. Both took some time to do, but they happened.
King and Malcolm X and the Black Panthers and other leaders, or lightning rods, of the civil rights movement were, by the wonder years white people, agitators, uppity nigras but Ali transcended that. He was everywhere and there was no doubting his charm. He was the opposite of what boxers, and especially black boxers,
were supposed to be like. Funny, good looking, witty and without the thuggish attitude of Liston. Not the sad tale that was Floyd Patterson. He was not an animal. He was human.
And that changed everything.

I think Ali did more to advance black people in western civilization than everyone including MLK. At least on a par. And only Bob Marley on a worldwide scale. When Ali visited a country in Africa he was treated as if he were Solomon, or Selassie, and he tried to elevate that country and its people beyond what it was at the time.

For me, the Ali moment I'll never forget was opening ceremony of the Atlanta Olympic games. When he lifted the torch I could feel the strength of the entire world lifting that torch with him. I bawled like a baby. I remember where I was when he beat Liston the first time, in my parents bedroom listening of the radio. When he lost to Frazier in their first match, right after he got reinstated. Frazier knocked him down twice to win the fight and it was like an arrow had been shot into my heart. He regained his mojo though, both in the ring and with his tussles with Howard Cosell (No Cosell and the Ali story would be very different).

Tough, another one of my heroes gone, and one of the last of the universal heroes ever probably. It is impossible to dominate all things today, everything is so fragmented now, so it is unlikely we will ever see the likes of Ali again.

Hell be missed.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
95. That's a shame
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:40 AM
Jun 2016

74 doesn't really seem that young, any more. Like Lincoln, he brought black and white into a greater understanding. Like Lincoln, he is now for the ages.

RandySF

(58,448 posts)
100. My only regret
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:40 AM
Jun 2016

Is that he and Frazier never repaired their tattered friendship before they each passed away.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
102. Great thread about a great man!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:49 AM
Jun 2016

So sorry that this has happened but delighted to imagine that he is once again in his glorious prime with his silver tongue free to sing poetry without any physical or mental impairments ever again!

Part of my own youth goes with him and I am not that much younger than he.

brer cat

(24,515 posts)
115. A beautiful man, a great athlete,
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:03 AM
Jun 2016

a messenger for peace and equality. May he live on in our hearts to light our path.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
117. He was and always will be
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:04 AM
Jun 2016

The Greatest. Honor his life and his spirit, there will never be another one like him. Peace

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
122. Knew it was bound to happen an always though he was given extra time to share his grace .....
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:11 AM
Jun 2016

and yet this feels like a blind siding. One of the only "sports" heroes who never ever had feet of clay. He walked the walk without ever needing to talk the the talk. I am truly saddened by his passing.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
134. In his prime, best I ever saw...interesting comment below by him on Vietnam and the draft
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:33 AM
Jun 2016

Ali had converted to Islam in 1964 after the first of his two wins over Liston, and changed his name from Cassius Clay. He said Islam was a religion of peace and that he had no desire to engage in combat with those who'd done him or his family no harm.

This all went down at the height of the civil rights movement.

"Shoot them for what?" Ali asked in an interview after he refused induction. "They never called me nigger. They never lynched me. They never put dogs on me. They didn't rob me of my nationality, rape and kill my mother and father. What do I want to shoot them for, for what? Why do I want to go shoot them, poor little people and babies and children and women? How can I shoot them? Just take me to jail."

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
143. He was nearly destroyed for that comment. He would not be silenced.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:14 AM
Jun 2016

He was too close to the truth and honest people of all races and backgrounds knew it was the truth.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
147. I hadn't heard anything about the draft,
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jun 2016

as it was before my time and I never really cared about boxing.
But if I knew nothing else about him, that quote alone would turn me into an instant fan.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
150. He was right.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:09 PM
Jun 2016

You have no duty to serve an entity that robs you of your basic human rights.

RIP, Ali.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
141. What an amazing person.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jun 2016

I spent some time studying his life and I learned so much. I am fortunate to have lived in his time, and America won back some of her conscience thanks to him.

PatrickforO

(14,558 posts)
148. Parkinson's Disease sucks. It is completely debilitating, and Ali had it for 34 years.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

He was a good man. A great one, even, because he stood up for what he believed was right.

I like to think he left the prison that his body had become and is now in a better place. Atheists may believe in oblivion after death, others in some afterlife. Either way, Ali is better off than he was in a body ravaged by 32 years of Parkinson's.

May he and his memory be blessed.

niyad

(113,029 posts)
151. are you all familiar with the ali center?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jun 2016
http://alicenter.org/home/

and this, from the cinema for peace foundation:

Muhammad Ali

Muhammad Ali is celebrating his 70th birthday this year. The greatest living legend of sport is not only known as a great sports champion, but also for his humanitarian work and opposing war. In 1967, he declared he would refuse to serve in the United States Army and publicly considered himself a conscientious objector of the Vietnam War, and stood up for his beliefs, even though he was sentenced initially to 5 years in prison, was stripped his world-championship-title and was not allowed to work for 3,5 years.

In 1984, Ali was diagnosed with Parkinson‘s syndrome. In 1991, he travelled to Iraq during the Gulf War and met with Saddam Hussein in an attempt to negotiate the release of American hostages. In 1996, Ali had the honour of lighting the flame at the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta, what become the most memorable moment of modern Olympic history. In 2002 Muhammad Ali went to Afghanistan as „U.N. Messenger of Peace“. In 2011, Ali, as one of the most prominent U.S. Muslims, appealed to Iran's supreme leader to show mercy and free two Americans held on suspicion of espionage since 2009.

On the occasion of the 30th Olympic Games in London 2012, “Sports for Peace” will be honouring boxing legend Muhammad Ali in a Gala event in The Victoria and Albert Museum on the 25th of July. “Sports for Peace” aims at praising the Olympic ideals and to convey its message, raising awareness for such important and inspirational causes as The Muhammad Ali Center, which serves both as a cultural attraction and international education center that is inspired by the ideals of its founder. “Sports for Peace” was created during the preliminary stages of the Olympic Games 2008 in response to the question whether sport or major sporting events could be obliged to common ideals, following a discussion with Richard Gere in 2007.

Outstanding sports personalities create unforgettable moments and serve as role models for entire generations. But it does take more than sporting triumphs, world records and gold medals to transform successful athletes into role models of entire generations.

http://www.cinemaforpeace-foundation.com/Projects/muhammad-ali

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
152. Our world is darker, a shining light. Gone
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:19 PM
Jun 2016

He suffered for years and is no longer hurting.
Wherever he is, I imagine he's giving Cosell a noogie
We are poorer for his passing.
Rest easy champ

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
153. sadness.....I always loved knowing he was here, in the world with us.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jun 2016

Loved him since I was a kid.


Happy journeys, Sir.

❤️

potone

(1,701 posts)
154. Damn it, damn it, damn it!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jun 2016

I hate boxing: it is a brutal sport; but what a man! He was a walking paradox: the best heavyweight boxer in the world, but an intelligent, thoughtful and fundamentally kind and gentle man who put his own integrity, basic sense of fairness, and respect for human life above his own career in a deeply racist country, instead of taking the easy way out and acceding to our war against a small and weak country thousands of miles away from us that had that had never done anything to deserve our onslaught against it.

His life has been an inspiration to millions of people around the world. We were honored to have him as one of us.

Rest in peace, Mr. Ali.

He was Muslim and I am a Greek Orthodox Christian, and in our tradition we say at someone's passing from this life: may his memory be eternal. In his case, I think it will be.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,366 posts)
158. I was in the sports memorabilia business and had the great pleasure
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jun 2016

of meeting ALI 20+ years ago and spent some time with him as he signed autographs and told stories...

you couldn't do better than to put his picture in Webster's next to ..... man

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
162. A Great Human Being Has Left Us
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016

I remember an article about his seeing an article in a New York newspaper about an old Jewish Retirement home running out of money. He beckoned an aide over, told him to find out how much they needed, then told him to take that amount plus a bit more over to them but not tell them it was him.

I am sure that was not an isolated incident.

He was a great man, an icon, he will be missed by most all of us. May he RIP.

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