Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:58 AM
Adenoid_Hynkel (11,601 posts)
Manchin to skip Democratic National Convention
Source: CNN
(CNN) – Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, who is running for re-election in West Virginia, said Monday he plans to sit out September's Democratic National Convention, the biggest gathering of the year for his party. "I intend to spend this fall focused on the people of West Virginia, whether that's representing them in my official U.S. Senate duties or here at home, where I can hear about their concerns and ideas to solve the problems of this great nation," Manchin said in a statement. Manchin's decision signals he may be trying to distance himself from the Democratic Party as he fights to keep his seat this fall. While West Virginia tends to be a blue state–with the exception of presidential elections–its recent primary showed that conservative Democrats may be feeling dissatisfied with the party. A federal inmate, whose name appeared on the May 8 primary ballot, pulled a substantial amount of the Democratic vote away from President Barack Obama, finishing the race with 41% compared to Obama's 59%. Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/18/manchin-to-skip-democratic-national-convention/ Another embarrassment for my home state. This coward isn't fit to shine Senator Byrd's shoes.
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37 replies, 4143 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Adenoid_Hynkel | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| boomerbust | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| onenote | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| wwytchwood | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| nxylas | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| kenfrequed | Jun 2012 | #31 | |
| nxylas | Jun 2012 | #35 | |
| liberal N proud | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| JoePhilly | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| BE10sCoach | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| liberalnationalist | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| Blue_Tires | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| Nuclear Unicorn | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
| Blue_Tires | Jun 2012 | #18 | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
| Blue_Tires | Jun 2012 | #17 | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Jun 2012 | #19 | |
| Blue_Tires | Jun 2012 | #20 | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Jun 2012 | #21 | |
| Blue_Tires | Jun 2012 | #23 | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Jun 2012 | #24 | |
| Blue_Tires | Jun 2012 | #26 | |
| Kingofalldems | Jun 2012 | #36 | |
| Freddie Stubbs | Jun 2012 | #37 | |
| onenote | Jun 2012 | #25 | |
| Blue_Tires | Jun 2012 | #27 | |
| kenfrequed | Jun 2012 | #32 | |
| Kingofalldems | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| Guy Whitey Corngood | Jun 2012 | #34 | |
| Nuclear Unicorn | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
| MountainMama | Jun 2012 | #28 | |
| Nuclear Unicorn | Jun 2012 | #29 | |
| MountainMama | Jun 2012 | #30 | |
| Nuclear Unicorn | Jun 2012 | #33 | |
| butterfly77 | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
| hrmjustin | Jun 2012 | #22 |
Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:29 AM
boomerbust (2,158 posts)
1. He would be better served
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Going to the Republican convention. Another pathetic Blue Dog that should be primaried.
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Response to boomerbust (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:18 AM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
5. What are the chances of WV voters electing a Democrat who embraces Obama?
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Even WV Democrats aren't crazy about Obama.
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Response to boomerbust (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:45 AM
onenote (22,006 posts)
6. He did face a primary opponent. And he crushed her, 80-20.
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Yes he's a very conservative guy (and his primary opponent wasn't exactly a progressive either). But for better or worse, for this election cycle, he's our guy. If he loses, it dramatically increases the chances the Senate ends up in repub hands. And his repub opponent is reprehensible. At least Manchin voted against defunding Planned Parenthood and against the Paul Ryan budget. You can take it to the bank that those two votes would have been different if cast by his repub opponent
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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:36 AM
wwytchwood (31 posts)
2. another DINO
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he will jump ship after January - just watch
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Response to wwytchwood (Reply #2)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:18 AM
nxylas (4,697 posts)
4. He's probably more useful to his masters within the Democratic Party
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They like to have a few people like him inside the enemy's camp, so that they can say "look, even Democrats oppose these crazy liberal policies, like making us pay the same taxes as the little people".
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Response to nxylas (Reply #4)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:39 PM
kenfrequed (5,277 posts)
31. Hmm..
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I think he is more useful to his corporate masters than to anyone within the Democratic party.
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Response to kenfrequed (Reply #31)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 06:08 AM
nxylas (4,697 posts)
35. That's what I meant to say
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Poor word choice, I probably should have said "He's more useful to his masters if he remains within the Democratic Party". Or the Democrat Party, as he probably calls it.
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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:49 AM
liberal N proud (43,658 posts)
3. Probably because he couldn't get the party to pay for airfare from West Virgina to North Carolina
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And it such a long distance to travel by car.
It would take him a whole 4 hours (assuming Charleston to Charlotte). |
Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:04 AM
JoePhilly (15,969 posts)
7. The next Zell Miller.
Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:07 AM
BE10sCoach (39 posts)
8. "Ball Less" politican
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Manchin is a "chicken shit" Blue Dog, DINO. Hope the SOB loses! Democrats don't need shitbags like this representing them.
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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:54 AM
liberalnationalist (170 posts)
9. good!
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who needs that racist bigot to spoil the convention...I hope he was told he was not welcome..we don't need his stain on the rest of us.
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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:58 AM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
10. Wouldn't it be hypocritical for him to go, considering that he won't commit to supporting Obama?
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #10)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:05 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
12. he couldn't just go out of party solidarity?
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of course not...he might be photographed standing next to liberals, gays and people of color, and the hillbilly vote he's selling out for would evaporate...
I've seen this story play out, and the ending is never good... |
Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #12)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:12 PM
Nuclear Unicorn (6,936 posts)
15. The hillbilly vote won't let him stand next to liberals gays and people of color?
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Didn't that same hillbilly vote elect Robert Byrd time and again?
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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #15)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:25 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
18. Exactly...So what's he scared of?
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Last edited Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:27 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Running a campaign from the "gop-lite cowardice" angle is a certain disaster...Dems field this type in my state every two years, and the result is the same 9 times out of 10
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #12)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:15 PM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
16. I think the bigger fear is people inferring that he supports Obama
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #16)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:22 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
17. So if he's lacking that much ballsack, why even run?
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Last edited Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:28 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) or why not make his crossover complete and switch parties?
and out of sheer curiosity, what's his "official reason" for not supporting Obama? (I know the real one) |
Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #17)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:27 PM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
19. Switching parties would mean one more vote for McConnell as majority leader
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #19)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:07 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
20. what's stopping him from doing that now?
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God forbid he vote for Reid -- West Virginians might think he supports Obama by proxy and we can't have that...
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #20)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:04 PM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
21. Probably wouldn't fit in with GOP, as he votes with Democrats 84% of the time
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #21)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:17 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
23. So again I ask; WHAT is he afraid of??
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What purpose does it serve to hate on Obama and avoid the convention other than making his party look weaker?
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #23)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:26 PM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
24. Because if voters associate him with President Obama, he will lose
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #24)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:03 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
26. They're gonna associate him with the president anyway because of the
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"D" behind his name...
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #24)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:57 AM
Kingofalldems (11,055 posts)
36. Defending people who will not support Obama
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Sounds like you are a republican to me.
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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #36)
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:48 PM
Freddie Stubbs (28,526 posts)
37. So, are you saying that we should not support the election of these Democratic nominees because
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they do not publicly support President Obama? You would rather have Republicans in these position who will openly support Republican candidates?
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #23)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:28 PM
onenote (22,006 posts)
25. Because it serves his own re-election interests to be perceived as independent of both parties
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Its not as if he's announced that he's endorsing Romney and going to the repub convention. Separating himself from the presidential candidates of both parties serves his interest in getting re-elected and his staying within the Democratic party serves our interests in controlling the Senate.
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Response to onenote (Reply #25)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:08 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
27. It's just sad that it's only the Dems who have to
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play this neutral, fence-straddling game...
The GOP never seems to worry about getting their share of moderate votes, no matter how far right they lean... |
Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #27)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:45 PM
kenfrequed (5,277 posts)
32. Hmmph
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It would be nice if the Democrats could master messaging and larger policy strategy. They seem terrible at it and too busy trying to appear reasonable. I suppose this is the reward for the president attempting to appear bipartisan.
Had the Blue Dog coalition not provided fillibuster cover for the entirety of 2009 we might have been able to craft an actual message that would have painted the republican congress of 2009-2010 as the most oppositional, obstructionist, minority party in modern American history. Instead we got the tea party as the story. Good job Blue dogs! Thank you Evan Bayh for screwing the party as hard as you could and destroying what should have been a generational shift to the left. |
Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:02 PM
Kingofalldems (11,055 posts)
11. Like Joe Lieberman, this guy should not be privy
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to any strategy discussions. Never trust either one.
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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #11)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:46 PM
Guy Whitey Corngood (14,838 posts)
34. These are the same " grown ups" the Blue Douche above is always
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Last edited Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:49 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) salivating over.
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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nuclear Unicorn (6,936 posts)
13. Probably scared-off by this --
Prison Inmate Wins More than 40% of Democratic Vote Over President Obama in WV Primary That's a serious protest vote. I'm not sure what the source of WV Democratic voter's ire may be but Manchin can't be faulted for taking this into account. |
Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #13)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:07 PM
MountainMama (125 posts)
28. Native Mountaineer here....
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stuck out in the desert.
I asked my husband if he took the primary results as racism or stupidity, and he voted for racist. |
Response to MountainMama (Reply #28)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:22 PM
Nuclear Unicorn (6,936 posts)
29. If 40% of the Democratic party voted against Obama in 2008 -- maybe.
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But if they voted Obama in 2008 and then bailed in 2012 odds are there's a protest vote going on. This was a Democratic primary, after all; exclusively Democratic voters. It's too much of a stretch to claim people went from reasoned vote to unreasoned bias in the space fo 3 years.
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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #29)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:32 PM
MountainMama (125 posts)
30. I'd like to think that....
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and it's probably right, but I know that there's a good bit of racism back home as well.
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Response to MountainMama (Reply #30)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:49 PM
Nuclear Unicorn (6,936 posts)
33. Well, as the Democratic party has been the refuge of minority votes & policy
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for several decades now it's hard to imagine 40% of WV Democrats suddenly waking-up and finding they were voting with/for people of color.
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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:10 PM
butterfly77 (16,765 posts)
14. Of course...
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he is a republiCON..
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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:05 PM
hrmjustin (8,868 posts)

