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muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 08:44 PM Jun 2012

Egypt's generals act to negate outcome of presidential poll

Source: The Guardian

Egypt's generals awarded themselves sweeping political powers in an 11th-hour constitutional declaration that tied the hands of the country's incoming president and cemented military authority over the post-Mubarak era.

The announcement on Sunday night came as early presidential election results put the Muslim Brotherhood's Mohamed Morsi ahead of his rival Ahmed Shafik, Mubarak's final prime minister and an unabashed champion of the old regime. But with thousands of polling stations yet to declare following the two-day runoff vote, the overall winner was too close to call.

Pro-change activists and human rights campaigners said the junta's constitutional declaration – which came just days after judges extended the army's ability to arrest civilians and following the dissolution of the Brotherhood-dominated parliament by the country's top court – rendered the scheduled handover of power to a democratically elected executive meaningless.

The Brotherhood was quick to label the declaration "null and unconstitutional", raising the prospect of a dramatic showdown within the highest institutions of the state.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/18/egypts-generals-act-presidential-poll?newsfeed=true



This could turn out to be the biggest international result form today's 3 elections.
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Egypt's generals act to negate outcome of presidential poll (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 OP
Sad Lol ita Jun 2012 #1
Did they run out of cameras or something? Edweird Jun 2012 #2
I don't know what would be worse for Egpyt Mr.Turnip Jun 2012 #3
Are you serious? ArcticFox Jun 2012 #6
The one; that would be worse is the one that usurps democracy and the will of the people. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #15
Is this based on you extensive knowlegede and study of the muslim brotherhoods history? Exultant Democracy Jun 2012 #17
This is NOT good hifiguy Jun 2012 #4
Muslim brotherhood or a military dictatorship...hmm.... nt Phoonzang Jun 2012 #5
The situation is difficult. David__77 Jun 2012 #7
K&R'd. snot Jun 2012 #8
Unfortunately, we have to support the Muslim Brotherhood indirectly CrazyBob Jun 2012 #9
You do know the US is backing the military, yes? dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #12
What evidence is there of the US backing the Egyptian military? lupulin Jun 2012 #13
See: dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #16
Thanks for the link. lupulin Jun 2012 #18
Dear ole State Dept/Hillary says all the politically correct things dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #19
Egypt Islamists claim presidency, army rules dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #10
Gee, is a "constitutional declaration" a ruse phrasing? Festivito Jun 2012 #11
That's a hell of a choice Lurks Often Jun 2012 #14

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
3. I don't know what would be worse for Egpyt
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 09:12 PM
Jun 2012

A military dictatorship, or the theocracy that the Brotherhood would likely legislate into effect.

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
6. Are you serious?
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 09:33 PM
Jun 2012

You would buy the line that democracy is great, so long as they vote for the right guy?

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
17. Is this based on you extensive knowlegede and study of the muslim brotherhoods history?
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jun 2012

Or you understanding based on you study of the make up and philosophy of their current leadership?

David__77

(23,334 posts)
7. The situation is difficult.
Sun Jun 17, 2012, 09:42 PM
Jun 2012

The MB does not want to "create a pretext" for an even more overt coup by mobilizing its forces to defend the parliament. But what has occurred is a real coup. SCAF is a continuation of the old order and is attempting to ensure its long-term veto.

CrazyBob

(132 posts)
9. Unfortunately, we have to support the Muslim Brotherhood indirectly
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 05:28 AM
Jun 2012

It's not the most comfortable position to be in. But they won. And we as a nation have to insist that the results of the election should stand.

There is good news, though! Liberalism works! If we support the rule of law in Egypt, it lets people around the world know that they can count on the USA to do what's right. That, my friends, is worth more than gold.

During the Bush admin, we failed miserably at this. And in my opinion, Pres Obama failed miserably during the efforts to oust Mubarak. But here is another golden opportunity to practice what we preach!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
16. See:
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jun 2012

Actions speak louder than words.

U.S. approves Egypt military aid despite rights fears
Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:46pm EDT

(Reuters) - The Obama administration on Friday formally released $1.3 billion in military aid for Egypt despite Cairo's failure to meet pro-democracy goals, saying U.S. national security required continued military assistance.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/23/us-egypt-usa-aid-idUSBRE82M0UG20120323

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. Dear ole State Dept/Hillary says all the politically correct things
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jun 2012

for public consumption, while behind the scenes the gov't sells weapons to both sides,
and is terrified that actual democracy might break out somplace in the world.
It is an easily observable pattern, takes just a quick glance at history to see it.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
10. Egypt Islamists claim presidency, army rules
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 05:28 AM
Jun 2012

(Reuters) - Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said on Monday its candidate won the country's first free presidential election, but a sweeping legal manoeuvre overnight by Cairo's military rulers made clear the generals planned to keep control for now.

An election committee source told Reuters that Islamist Mohamed Morsy, a U.S.-educated engineer, was comfortably ahead of former air force general Ahmed Shafik with most of the votes tallied. But the count, which would make him the first civilian leader in 60 years, had yet to be officially finalised.

In any event, however, the new president will be subordinate for some time at least to the military council which last year pushed fellow officer Mubarak aside to appease street protests.

In the latest twist on Egypt's tortuous path from revolution to democracy, the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) issued a decree as two days of voting ended on Sunday which set strict limits on the powers of head of state. On the eve of the election, it had already dissolved the Islamist-led parliament.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/06/18/uk-egypt-election-idUKBRE85G01W20120618

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
11. Gee, is a "constitutional declaration" a ruse phrasing?
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 05:55 AM
Jun 2012

Is it a declaration from a Constitution, or,
is it a declaration for a Constitution?

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
14. That's a hell of a choice
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 10:06 AM
Jun 2012

The military dictatorship composed mostly of political & religious moderates (by Middle East standards) or the elected party composed of mostly people that seem to want to institute Sharia type law to Egypt.

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