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Sat Jun 16, 2012, 08:17 AM

Saudi Crown Prince Nayef dies

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Source: AP

June 16, 2012, 4:18 a.m.
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia— Crown Prince Nayef, the hardline interior minister who spearheaded Saudi Arabia's fierce crackdown crushing Al Qaeda's branch in the country after the 9/11 attacks in the United States and then rose to become next in line to the throne, has died. He was in his late 70s.

Nayef's death unexpectedly reopens the question of succession in this crucial U.S. ally and oil powerhouse for the second time in less than a year. The 88-year-old King Abdullah has now outlived two designated successors, despite ailments of his own. Now a new crown prince must be chosen from among his brothers and half-brothers, all the sons of Saudi Arabia's founder, Abdul-Aziz.

The figure believed most likely to be tapped as the new heir is Prince Salman, the current defense minister who previously served for decades in the powerful post of governor of Riyadh, the capital. The crown prince will be chosen by the Allegiance Council, an assembly of Abdul-Aziz's sons and some of his grandchildren.

A statement by the royal family said Nayef died Saturday in a hospital abroad. It did not specify where. Nayef had been out of the country since late May, when he went on a trip that was described as a “personal vacation” that would include medical tests. He travelled abroad frequently in recent years for tests but authorities never reported what ailments he may have been suffering from.


Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-saudi-nayef-20120616,0,3770134.story



Saudi Prince Salman seen as likely heir to throne

(Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's Defence Minister Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz, seen as more moderate than his hawkish brother Crown Prince Nayef who died on Saturday, is likely to be anointed heir to the throne of the world's top oil exporter.

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An imposing figure, Salman controls one of the Arab world's largest media groups.

He believes that democracy is ill-suited to the conservative kingdom and advocates a cautious approach to social and cultural reform, according to a 2007 U.S. diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks.

A familiar figure to the kingdom's top ally - the United States - he is someone with whom Washington would be comfortable doing business.

"It appeared to me he had a good handle on the delicate balancing act he had to do to move society forward while being respectful of its traditions and conservative ways," said Robert Jordan who was U.S. ambassador in Riyadh from 2001-03.

more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/16/us-saudi-succession-salman-newsmaker-idUSBRE85F0EH20120616

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 08:25 AM

1. Anti-regime protests held in eastern Saudi Arabia

 

unrelated but it may gain traction

Anti-government protesters have once again taken to the streets of Saudi Arabia’s Eastern Province to demand the release of political prisoners.The demonstrators marched in the town of Qatif to mark the global prisoner day. They also called on Riyadh to make reforms.
The anti-regime protesters stepped on images of 79-year-old Nayef bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud, the Kingdom’s crowned prince.
Such protests are frequent in the oil rich town.
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Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have also criticized the Al Saud regime for silencing dissent through intimidation and the violation of the basic rights of citizens

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2012/06/15/anti-regime-protests-held-in-eastern-saudi-arabia.html

So,
which top US leaders will attend the pomp and circumstance funeral ?

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 08:33 AM

2. The fall of the House of Saud will be precipitous when it comes.

"Royal Families" are just successful Mafioso.

I despise those thieves, and hope that one day Democracy comes to that backwards kingdom.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 08:40 AM

3. there are two mantra's followed by the Saudi royals in the coming power struggle

 

The current one that wants the status quo to remain
and the other,more 'fundamental' believers in change. The winners will be the religious police, they stand to see a bump in wages to remain loyal

to the highest bidder.

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 11:12 AM

4. in a decade or so all the sons of King Abdulaziz will be dead. They are all now past their mid 70's

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Without any consensus about any succession after them - there is almost certain to be a great deal of disagreement. How that manifest itself will be interesting. Still, as oppressive as the Royal Family is - what are their alternatives? Any liberal opposition is small and fragmented and has no chance whatsoever of having any say in a future regime. The only effective opposition would almost certainly come from the matawa - the hardline religious authorities. As long as there is one direct son of King Adulaziz still alive - I have no doubt that the regime can survive. After they all gone and that can come very soon - all bets are off on the future of the Kingdom. Any real predictions on what will happen then are all but impossible.

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Response to maddezmom (Original post)

Sat Jun 16, 2012, 12:55 PM

5. The parasite is dead, long live the parasite

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