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Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:02 PM

Buffalo Hospital Shooting: Surgeon at Large After Home Search

Source: ABC




By RICHARD ESPOSITO, CARLOS BOETTCHER and JENNIFER WLACH
June 13, 2012

A former Army Special Forces surgeon who allegedly shot his ex-girlfriend to death at a Buffalo, N.Y. hospital today remains at large, despite a day-long police manhunt.

Dr. Timothy V. Jorden, 49, is wanted in connection to the death of his one-time lover, Jackie Wisniewski, 33, a nursing student who died this morning on the floor of the Erie County Medical Center.

Armed with a warrant and with ambulances at the ready, police this evening used a robot to lead the way as they searched Jorden's Lakeview, N.Y., home. The home was in the jurisdiction of the Hamburg Police Department, although the Erie County Sheriff's Department provided the special robot. The law enforcement units and ambulances left the home after the search, ABC News station WKBW reported.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/buffalo-hospital-shooting-victim-girlfriend-alleged-shooter/story?id=16559372#.T9oKrJh9bfY

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Reply Buffalo Hospital Shooting: Surgeon at Large After Home Search (Original post)
cali Jun 2012 OP
onehandle Jun 2012 #1
geardaddy Jun 2012 #2
proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #3
Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #17
obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #20
TheWraith Jun 2012 #5
onehandle Jun 2012 #7
slackmaster Jun 2012 #9
HockeyMom Jun 2012 #19
Odin2005 Jun 2012 #12
Hoyt Jun 2012 #14
proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #16
proverbialwisdom Jun 2012 #18
slackmaster Jun 2012 #4
Odin2005 Jun 2012 #13
HockeyMom Jun 2012 #6
marew Jun 2012 #10
LuckyLib Jun 2012 #8
librechik Jun 2012 #11
hedgehog Jun 2012 #15
PavePusher Jun 2012 #21
mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2012 #22

Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:07 PM

1. Gun culture strikes again. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:12 PM

2. +1

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:12 PM

3. PTSD?

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 02:02 PM

17. Could just be a jealous lover's quarrel turned deadly...

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:13 PM

20. Every day women are killed by husbands and boyfriends

That's what this is, although is he's taken alive, he'll co-opt PTSD as a defense.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:20 PM

5. Gosh, it's almost like NY's incredibly strict gun control laws didn't stop it.

New York: the state where it's literally illegal to even touch a handgun if you don't have government permission.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:27 PM

7. Gosh, it's almost like straw purchasers from red states aren't bringing in truckloads of guns. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:36 PM

9. There ought to be a law against that

 

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 03:35 PM

19. Florida's easy gun laws

didn't prevent that woman's death either. Maybe she should have been armed in her hospital bed?

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:26 PM

12. Wow, first post and the gun-grabbers have to politicize a tragedy!

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:33 PM

14. If she had shot him, the gun culture would be crowing and calling for even laxer laws and more guns.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:46 PM

16. Jumping the gun? Read this.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/06/a-decade-after-murder-suicides-d-day-for-the-agent-orange-of-our-generation.html

A Decade after Murder-Suicides, D-Day for “the Agent Orange of our Generation”

By Dan Olmsted

Dan Olmsted is Editor of AgeOfAutism.com. His reporting, with Mark Benjamin, on Lariam’s harmful impact on U.S. troops was named Best Wire Service Reporting of 2004 by the National Mental Health Association.

Posted by Age of Autism at June 11, 2012 at 5:45 AM

<...>

Last Wednesday, an Army epidemiologist named Remington Nevin took a seat in the witness chair before the Defense subcommittee of the powerful U. S. Senate Committee on Appropriations. Wearing a business suit and a sober expression and looking lonely at a table more often occupied by military brass in full regalia, he began reading from a prepared statement ( http://www.rescuepost.com/files/nevin-sacd-testimony-2012.pdf ).

Watch testimony beginning at 130:52 mark ( http://www.appropriations.senate.gov/webcasts.cfm?method=webcasts.view&id=e5d8379f-152e-4f14-a1d3-eba03aacc7bf ):
“I am here today to testify on an important issue which I fear may become the ‘Agent Orange’ of our generation: a toxic legacy that affects our troops, and our veterans,” Nevin said, emphasizing he was speaking for himself, not the Army. “This is a critical issue that is in desperate need of research funding."

"I am referring to the harmful effects of the antimalarial drug mefloquine, also known as Lariam, which was first developed over 40 years ago by the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research."

“Mefloquine causes a severe intoxication syndrome, characterized by vivid nightmares, profound anxiety, aggression, delusional paranoia, dissociative psychosis, and severe memory loss. Experience has shown that this syndrome, even if rare, can have tragic consequences, both on the battlefield, and on the home front.”

The decade between the Nieves deaths and Nevin’s testimony has been marked by a rising wave of PTSD, suicides, and violent behavior by both active-duty troops and veterans. March brought the worst American atrocity in the war on terror, when a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan, Sgt. Robert Bales, allegedly went on a rampage, killing 16 villagers including children and a pregnant woman, setting some on fire, and single-handedly upending already shaky U.S.-Afghan relations.

In the search for explanations, these tragedies have been linked to combat stress, multiple deployments, financial problems, marital discord, pre-existing personality disorders, alcohol, steroids, and traumatic brain injury (TBI), most commonly from improvised explosive devices planted along roads. But it is becoming increasingly clear that an unknown but consequential percentage of these problems have been triggered by a toxin to which hundreds of thousands of troops have by now been exposed (hence Nevin's Agent Orange analogy). In this case, the toxin is mefloquine, or Lariam, a prescription drug acknowledged to cause serious, long-lasting, sometimes fatal problems in a significant percentage of those who take it, problems the drug company now admits can last “long after” they stop.

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 02:22 PM

18. http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/06/military-brain-injury-tied-to-malaria-drug-doctor-says-061312/

Last edited Thu Jun 14, 2012, 02:23 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/06/military-brain-injury-tied-to-malaria-drug-doctor-says-061312/

Brain injury tied to malaria drug, doctor says

By Patricia Kime - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Jun 13, 2012 16:28:30 EDT

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:17 PM

4. Mental illness sucks

 

War generates a lot of it.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:26 PM

13. + Infinity.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:21 PM

6. Similar in Naples, Florida, Hospital

Man went into a hospital and shot his estranged wife. Some morons were saying that the nurses and doctors should have been armed.

I thought doctors and nurses were there to save lives, not take them, or be vigilantes.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:23 PM

10. Silly, rational, intelligent, discerning you! :) n/t

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:34 PM

8. Every day, all over the country. The "If I can't have you

nobody can!" murder.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:25 PM

11. seriously, this was the plot of last night's NCIS

a surgeon turned out to be the serial killer! But they captured him in 60 minutes...

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:42 PM

15. The real irony - ECMC is where area gun shot victims are treated!

Another article would suggest the surgeon treats gun shot wounds.

Police are continuing to search for an award-winning trauma surgeon

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/323907/28/Surgeon-sought-in-Buffalo-hospital-deadly-shooting

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2012, 05:19 PM

21. Some updated info: The MSM is confused, as usual.

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:23 PM

22. Authorities confirm that dead body is doctor wanted in ECMC shooting

Last edited Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:28 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Authorities confirm that dead body is doctor wanted in ECMC shooting

Updated: June 15, 2012, 1:15 PM

The body of Dr. Timothy V. Jorden Jr., the man suspected in the shooting death of a West Seneca woman, was found this morning in an Eighteen Mile Creek ravine near his home, dead of an apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Dennis Richards, chief of detectives for the Buffalo Police Department, confirmed that information at a news conference just before 1 p.m.

The body, in surgical scrubs, was found by a pair of parole officers who were assisting police in the search for Jorden, Richards said.

The discovery came only a day after police had said a manhunt was under way for Jorden. But neighbors on the Lakeview street where he lived said they were told this morning by police officers not to worry about their safety because Jorden was dead.

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