Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:02 PM
cali (80,319 posts)
Buffalo Hospital Shooting: Surgeon at Large After Home Search
Source: ABC
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, CARLOS BOETTCHER and JENNIFER WLACH June 13, 2012 A former Army Special Forces surgeon who allegedly shot his ex-girlfriend to death at a Buffalo, N.Y. hospital today remains at large, despite a day-long police manhunt. Dr. Timothy V. Jorden, 49, is wanted in connection to the death of his one-time lover, Jackie Wisniewski, 33, a nursing student who died this morning on the floor of the Erie County Medical Center. Armed with a warrant and with ambulances at the ready, police this evening used a robot to lead the way as they searched Jorden's Lakeview, N.Y., home. The home was in the jurisdiction of the Hamburg Police Department, although the Erie County Sheriff's Department provided the special robot. The law enforcement units and ambulances left the home after the search, ABC News station WKBW reported. Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/buffalo-hospital-shooting-victim-girlfriend-alleged-shooter/story?id=16559372#.T9oKrJh9bfY
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| cali | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| onehandle | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| geardaddy | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| proud2BlibKansan | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| Blue_Tires | Jun 2012 | #17 | |
| obamanut2012 | Jun 2012 | #20 | |
| TheWraith | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| onehandle | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| slackmaster | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| HockeyMom | Jun 2012 | #19 | |
| Odin2005 | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| Hoyt | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
| proverbialwisdom | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
| proverbialwisdom | Jun 2012 | #18 | |
| slackmaster | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| Odin2005 | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
| HockeyMom | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| marew | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| LuckyLib | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| librechik | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| hedgehog | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
| PavePusher | Jun 2012 | #21 | |
| mahatmakanejeeves | Jun 2012 | #22 |
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:07 PM
onehandle (35,507 posts)
1. Gun culture strikes again. nt
Response to onehandle (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:12 PM
proud2BlibKansan (96,387 posts)
3. PTSD?
Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #3)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 02:02 PM
Blue_Tires (31,757 posts)
17. Could just be a jealous lover's quarrel turned deadly...
Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #3)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 04:13 PM
obamanut2012 (9,971 posts)
20. Every day women are killed by husbands and boyfriends
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That's what this is, although is he's taken alive, he'll co-opt PTSD as a defense.
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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:20 PM
TheWraith (24,331 posts)
5. Gosh, it's almost like NY's incredibly strict gun control laws didn't stop it.
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New York: the state where it's literally illegal to even touch a handgun if you don't have government permission.
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Response to TheWraith (Reply #5)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:27 PM
onehandle (35,507 posts)
7. Gosh, it's almost like straw purchasers from red states aren't bringing in truckloads of guns. nt
Response to onehandle (Reply #7)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:36 PM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
9. There ought to be a law against that
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Response to TheWraith (Reply #5)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 03:35 PM
HockeyMom (10,738 posts)
19. Florida's easy gun laws
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didn't prevent that woman's death either. Maybe she should have been armed in her hospital bed?
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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:26 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
12. Wow, first post and the gun-grabbers have to politicize a tragedy!
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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #12)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:33 PM
Hoyt (12,162 posts)
14. If she had shot him, the gun culture would be crowing and calling for even laxer laws and more guns.
Response to onehandle (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:46 PM
proverbialwisdom (1,609 posts)
16. Jumping the gun? Read this.
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http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/06/a-decade-after-murder-suicides-d-day-for-the-agent-orange-of-our-generation.html
A Decade after Murder-Suicides, D-Day for “the Agent Orange of our Generation” By Dan Olmsted Dan Olmsted is Editor of AgeOfAutism.com. His reporting, with Mark Benjamin, on Lariam’s harmful impact on U.S. troops was named Best Wire Service Reporting of 2004 by the National Mental Health Association. Posted by Age of Autism at June 11, 2012 at 5:45 AM <...> Last Wednesday, an Army epidemiologist named Remington Nevin took a seat in the witness chair before the Defense subcommittee of the powerful U. S. Senate Committee on Appropriations. Wearing a business suit and a sober expression and looking lonely at a table more often occupied by military brass in full regalia, he began reading from a prepared statement ( http://www.rescuepost.com/files/nevin-sacd-testimony-2012.pdf ). Watch testimony beginning at 130:52 mark ( http://www.appropriations.senate.gov/webcasts.cfm?method=webcasts.view&id=e5d8379f-152e-4f14-a1d3-eba03aacc7bf ): “I am here today to testify on an important issue which I fear may become the ‘Agent Orange’ of our generation: a toxic legacy that affects our troops, and our veterans,” Nevin said, emphasizing he was speaking for himself, not the Army. “This is a critical issue that is in desperate need of research funding."
"I am referring to the harmful effects of the antimalarial drug mefloquine, also known as Lariam, which was first developed over 40 years ago by the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research." “Mefloquine causes a severe intoxication syndrome, characterized by vivid nightmares, profound anxiety, aggression, delusional paranoia, dissociative psychosis, and severe memory loss. Experience has shown that this syndrome, even if rare, can have tragic consequences, both on the battlefield, and on the home front.” The decade between the Nieves deaths and Nevin’s testimony has been marked by a rising wave of PTSD, suicides, and violent behavior by both active-duty troops and veterans. March brought the worst American atrocity in the war on terror, when a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan, Sgt. Robert Bales, allegedly went on a rampage, killing 16 villagers including children and a pregnant woman, setting some on fire, and single-handedly upending already shaky U.S.-Afghan relations. In the search for explanations, these tragedies have been linked to combat stress, multiple deployments, financial problems, marital discord, pre-existing personality disorders, alcohol, steroids, and traumatic brain injury (TBI), most commonly from improvised explosive devices planted along roads. But it is becoming increasingly clear that an unknown but consequential percentage of these problems have been triggered by a toxin to which hundreds of thousands of troops have by now been exposed (hence Nevin's Agent Orange analogy). In this case, the toxin is mefloquine, or Lariam, a prescription drug acknowledged to cause serious, long-lasting, sometimes fatal problems in a significant percentage of those who take it, problems the drug company now admits can last “long after” they stop. <...> |
Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #16)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 02:22 PM
proverbialwisdom (1,609 posts)
18. http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/06/military-brain-injury-tied-to-malaria-drug-doctor-says-061312/
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Last edited Thu Jun 14, 2012, 02:23 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/06/military-brain-injury-tied-to-malaria-drug-doctor-says-061312/
Brain injury tied to malaria drug, doctor says By Patricia Kime - Staff writer Posted : Wednesday Jun 13, 2012 16:28:30 EDT |
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:17 PM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
4. Mental illness sucks
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War generates a lot of it.
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Response to slackmaster (Reply #4)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:26 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
13. + Infinity.
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:21 PM
HockeyMom (10,738 posts)
6. Similar in Naples, Florida, Hospital
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Man went into a hospital and shot his estranged wife. Some morons were saying that the nurses and doctors should have been armed.
I thought doctors and nurses were there to save lives, not take them, or be vigilantes. |
Response to HockeyMom (Reply #6)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:23 PM
marew (1,070 posts)
10. Silly, rational, intelligent, discerning you! :) n/t
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:34 PM
LuckyLib (3,265 posts)
8. Every day, all over the country. The "If I can't have you
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nobody can!" murder.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:25 PM
librechik (25,032 posts)
11. seriously, this was the plot of last night's NCIS
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a surgeon turned out to be the serial killer! But they captured him in 60 minutes...
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:42 PM
hedgehog (30,432 posts)
15. The real irony - ECMC is where area gun shot victims are treated!
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Another article would suggest the surgeon treats gun shot wounds.
Police are continuing to search for an award-winning trauma surgeon http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/323907/28/Surgeon-sought-in-Buffalo-hospital-deadly-shooting |
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 05:19 PM
PavePusher (15,374 posts)
21. Some updated info: The MSM is confused, as usual.
Response to cali (Original post)
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:23 PM
mahatmakanejeeves (3,626 posts)
22. Authorities confirm that dead body is doctor wanted in ECMC shooting
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Last edited Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:28 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Authorities confirm that dead body is doctor wanted in ECMC shooting
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