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Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:05 PM

Tommy Chong Has Prostate Cancer, Says "Cannabis Is a Cure"

Source: Eonline

Tommy Chong shared some serious news Saturday: The pot-loving comic is battling prostate cancer.

Chong, one-half of comedy duo Cheech & Chong, told CNN he was diagnosed "about a month ago" with "a slow stage one had for a long time."

"I've got prostate cancer, and I'm treating it with hemp oil, with cannabis," he said. "So means a lot more to me than just being able to smoke a joint without being arrested."

Chong, 74, said he was drug-free for about three years, during which time he began having prostate-related problems.

"So I know it had nothing to do with cannabis," he said. "Cannabis is a cure."

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Cannabis is a plant with many useful properties, one of which is it's many medical uses. Then, of course the other use, is for recreational purposes.

However, it's still just a plant that has evolved through out this planet's creation, weather it's was by God's hand or evolution, it's still a plant that is safer than aspirin.

make the plant legal,

Is " in God we Trust " printed on the dollar or not?

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Reply Tommy Chong Has Prostate Cancer, Says "Cannabis Is a Cure" (Original post)
Royal Sloan 09 Jun 2012 OP
Archae Jun 2012 #1
Politicalboi Jun 2012 #8
sofa king Jun 2012 #15
CrawlingChaos Jun 2012 #23
liberal N proud Jun 2012 #11
JackInGreen Jun 2012 #12
bitchkitty Jun 2012 #29
GliderGuider Jun 2012 #46
Alcibiades Jun 2012 #2
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #26
drm604 Jun 2012 #3
Bradical79 Jun 2012 #49
bluedigger Jun 2012 #4
PSPS Jun 2012 #30
JackInGreen Jun 2012 #47
onehandle Jun 2012 #5
Politicalboi Jun 2012 #9
onehandle Jun 2012 #10
MindMover Jun 2012 #6
AlbertCat Jun 2012 #7
CBGLuthier Jun 2012 #13
guyton Jun 2012 #16
Occulus Jun 2012 #56
Ian David Jun 2012 #14
Scout Jun 2012 #18
Ian David Jun 2012 #20
Scout Jun 2012 #24
Ian David Jun 2012 #25
CanSocDem Jun 2012 #34
hughee99 Jun 2012 #39
CanSocDem Jun 2012 #43
hughee99 Jun 2012 #45
mucifer Jun 2012 #41
MattBaggins Jun 2012 #51
Freddie Stubbs Jun 2012 #48
CanSocDem Jun 2012 #35
Ian David Jun 2012 #37
CanSocDem Jun 2012 #42
MattBaggins Jun 2012 #52
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #27
Ian David Jun 2012 #28
Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #32
NickB79 Jun 2012 #17
Ian David Jun 2012 #21
mainer Jun 2012 #22
kwassa Jun 2012 #31
NickB79 Jun 2012 #33
kwassa Jun 2012 #36
mainer Jun 2012 #38
kwassa Jun 2012 #40
longship Jun 2012 #19
CanSocDem Jun 2012 #44
Bradical79 Jun 2012 #50
nebenaube Jun 2012 #53
Bradical79 Jun 2012 #54
4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #55
wildbilln864 Jun 2012 #57
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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:09 PM

1. If pot was a "cure," how'd Tommy get cancer in the first place?

Pot may help Tommy Chong feel better, especially during chemo.

But to call it a "cure," is pure woo.

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Response to Archae (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:16 PM

8. He did say he was

Drug free for 3 years, so that may have helped the cancer to take hold. I hope it cures him. And I hope it is shouted from the roof tops. Marijuana can help and or cure cancer. This just might be the publicity it needs to get the fucking message out.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:53 PM

15. He went farther than that on CNN.

He said specifically that his prostate problems first became evident in prison, where he was clean and being drug tested every day.

It was his opinion that going off the weed gave the cancer the head start it needed.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 05:44 PM

23. Also, being in prison destroys a person's health - especially an older person

I heard Tommy say that the prison he was in is built on a toxic waste dump. He also developed gout from the horrible food.

If I were Tommy Chong, I'd have a very difficult time not being overwhelmed by anger and bitterness.

I hope he has tremendous success with the hemp oil treatment and regaining his health overall. My guess is he'll be around for many years and eventually die of something else.

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Response to Archae (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:35 PM

11. That was my first thougth

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Response to Archae (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:05 PM

12. From personal experience

Cannabis kept my hodgkins lymphoma at bay for 5 on years before I got 'clean' and the tumors set in for real, oncologists and my surgeon both agreed that my return to increased cannabis intake were what helped me kill it outright (in addition to the chemo) in 3 months, instead of 6 to Never.

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Response to Archae (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:02 PM

29. Not just "pot".

Hemp oil - it's also called RSO, for Rick Simpson's Oil and I've also heard it called Phoenix tears.

It's not pot, and it's not meant for recreational use.

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Response to bitchkitty (Reply #29)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:58 PM

46. Rick Simpson is a great spokesman for it!

Lots of info on hemp oil as medication here:
http://www.phoenixtears.ca/

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:09 PM

2. Wait a minute:

I'm a big fan, but if pot cured cancer, shouldn't he be immune?

Anyway, I wish him well. Hard to believe he's 74.

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Response to Alcibiades (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 06:22 PM

26. 3 years "drug free" in prison. n/t

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:13 PM

3. I'm a fan, but he needs to stick to comedy

rather than medicine.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:30 PM

49. He might not be as crazy as you think

Inflammation is closely related to cancer, and Cannabis does have anti-inflammatory properties

Also, from what I can tell, preliminary testing indicates Cannabis may have tumor fighting properties.

Here's a summary from the National Institute of Health: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4


Not proof of it being a "cure" but it seems like it may help, and perhaps it would have prevented or slowed down the cancer if he could've continued smoking.

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:13 PM

4. Cure? Maybe.

Preventative?

Obviously not.


Get well soon, Tommy!

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:13 PM

30. Preventive

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Response to PSPS (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:28 AM

47. Entirely

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:14 PM

5. I'm battling athlete's foot with beer.

And then my toes fell off.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:19 PM

9. Vinegar is the cure

For athlete's foot. Stings at first if use without water dilution. But in a few days, your feet will adjust to it. Although I don't think it can cure your toe loss. LOL! Just pickle your feet.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:22 PM

10. I've drunk some pretty bad beer in my time, but I am not going to drink vinegar. nt

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:14 PM

6. Of course he says pot is the cure.....

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 02:15 PM

7. Pot IS just a plant

but so are hemlock, jimson weed, and opium poppies.

Still, pot has got to be the most benign drug around!

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:15 PM

13. I may be high but I have enough reading comprehension to understand where he says

he quit smoking for three years and THEN got cancer. I guess some folks had a thought come to mind and chased it instead of reading the OP.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:54 PM

16. quit drinking for 5 years ...

... and got old. Obviously I need to start drinking again.

He just might be jumping to conclusions a tad.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 06:31 PM

56. The antitumor effects of cannabis were gone because he stopped using it.

Cannabis is clinically known to have antitumor properties vs. tumors of various cancers, both benign and malignant.

We all read the OP. Why didn't you?

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:47 PM

14. If he's not also treating it with real medicine, he'll probably die. Which is a shame. n/t

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Response to Ian David (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:39 PM

18. my sister treated her brain tumor with "real medicine" and she died anyway. n/t

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Response to Scout (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 05:04 PM

20. I'm sorry for your loss, but that doesn't mean that real medicine doesn't work better than woo-woo.

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Response to Ian David (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 06:13 PM

24. it didn't work at all, actually.

2 surgeries, radiation and chemo.

marijuana isn't "woo-woo" but you know that.

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Response to Scout (Reply #24)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 06:15 PM

25. No. n/t

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Response to Scout (Reply #24)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:01 PM

34. Modern Medicine is not meant to cure.



It's a placebo designed to make a profit. They (the shareholders) know this as well.


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Response to CanSocDem (Reply #34)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:31 PM

39. So I should toss my epi-pen

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in case I get stung by a bee?

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #39)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:18 AM

43. Is there a 'question' in that statement?



I see a question mark at the end of a declarative statement concerning your fear of bee stings. Here's some "woo" for you______stay away from bees.

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Response to CanSocDem (Reply #43)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:51 PM

45. I am asking "Are you suggesting I toss my epipen"?

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since it's just placebo designed to make a profit rather than a medicine that will cure a condition. Whether I go near bees or not is essentially irrelevant to the question "does an Epinephrine injection treat an allergic reaction or is it just a placebo"?

A fair question for a broad brush.

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Response to CanSocDem (Reply #34)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:35 PM

41. Then why do pediatric cancers now have an 80% cure rate when a hundred years ago

almost no children survived cancer?

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Response to mucifer (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:55 PM

51. Don't muddle the woo with sound science

It confuses the woosters.

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Response to CanSocDem (Reply #34)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:02 AM

48. I thought that it was the Republicans who shunned science

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Response to Ian David (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:13 PM

35. "Real medicine??"



American-style free market medicine???

You must be kidding. Your real medicine kills more people in a day than cannabis kills in 50 years.

You really should be careful what you call "woo-woo".

.

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Response to CanSocDem (Reply #35)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:06 PM

37. You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work?

"Medicine."

Until then, it's still woo-woo.

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Response to Ian David (Reply #37)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:08 AM

42. Out of desperation....


...most call it 'the placebo effect'. Some, in utter confusion, simply call it "a placebo".

Advocates of your bizarro world of modern medicine call indifference, "erectile dysfunction" or "depression" or "pre-cancer".

Public Health is called "Mandated Health Insurance".

Heartburn (indigestion) is called "Acid Reflux Disease". The simple cure of baking soda and water, I presume would be called "woo-woo".

You'll have to pardon my disdain, but any defence of your medical industry, in particular, the demonization of known alternatives, makes you sound foolish....or worse.

Your dismissal of the hemp plant is breathtaking in its audacity. In the matter of HEALTH, whose interests are you really promoting???

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Response to CanSocDem (Reply #42)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:57 PM

52. You have no idea how the gastric system works do you

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Response to Ian David (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 06:27 PM

27. At 74 slow growth prostate cancer is unlikely to kill him before something else. n/t

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #27)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 06:34 PM

28. That's kind of good news. "You'll die soon, but not from this." n/t

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Response to Ian David (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:50 PM

32. Yeah, kind of.

But, "we all got it comin', kid"


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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:38 PM

17. If you're a man and live to 80, you'll get prostate cancer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_cancer#Castration-resistant_cancer

More than 80% of men will develop prostate cancer by the age of 80. However, in the majority of cases, it will be slow-growing and harmless. In such men, diagnosing prostate cancer is overdiagnosis—the needless identification of a technically aberrant condition that will never harm the patient—and treatment in such men exposes them to all of the adverse effects, with no possibility of extending their lives.


The argument that he got cancer because he stopped smoking pot for 3 years is ridiculous. If he had kept smoking pot those 3 years, his odds of developing it would still be very, very high simply due to the fact he's getting old.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 05:05 PM

21. That is an important point. n/t

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 05:33 PM

22. Exactly. He probably doesn't even need treatment.

The new thinking in medicine is that prostate cancer, by and large, is not going to kill you. There is a minority of cases that become invasive but for the vast majority of men, it's something you die WITH, not OF.

And the treatment itself can be hell.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:53 PM

31. This is so illogical. My dad has advanced prostate cancer, and smoking marijuana to stimulate

his appetite and to cure nausea from the painkilling drugs.

IF HIS CANCER HAD BEEN DIAGNOSED EARLIER, IT WOULD BE MORE TREATABLE.

Because it wasn't, it had time to spread to his pelvic bone. The idea that NOT diagnosing it is some kind of public service is simply absurd.

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Response to kwassa (Reply #31)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:52 PM

33. I'm sorry for your father, but you're mis-interpreting my post

The new thinking with prostate cancer isn't to not diagnose and treat at all. It's to stop diagnosing past a certain age, because if you live to 70 and you're still cancer-free, you're most likely to develop the non-aggressive, benign form of prostate cancer that doesn't require surgery because you'd die of old age long before the tumor becomes dangerous. It's still recommended that men in their 40's-60's get tested regularly for prostate cancer, because they're the age group most at risk of the aggressive form.

Yes, this means that some men in their 70's and older will still die of aggressive prostate cancer simply because statistically they will exist. However, the trade-off is that many more men won't die of complications from unnecessary prostate surgery and treatment. It sucks, but until there's a simple, cheap and easy treatment for cancer it's the best system we have.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #33)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:02 PM

36. I'm not misinterpreting your post.

Yes, this means that some men in their 70's and older will still die of aggressive prostate cancer simply because statistically they will exist. However, the trade-off is that many more men won't die of complications from unnecessary prostate surgery and treatment.


So, my dad is being sacrificed so that others will not die of surgery complications.

That is the trade-off.

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Response to kwassa (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:09 PM

38. Many men who are treated will experience misery, even death

from treatment.

If the disease kills 1%, but treatment destroys the lives of 20%, it does lead to the conclusion that the least amount of human misery would result from not treating the vast majority of men.

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Response to mainer (Reply #38)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:56 PM

40. My point stands. And, there are other ways of looking at how to treat prostate cancer.

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from Dr. Dean Ornish.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-dean-ornish/prostate-cancer-screening_b_1587932.html

The oft-repeated statement that one cannot reasonably distinguish the indolent prostate cancers from the aggressive ones is a myth. With basic information available on all patients in contemporary practice, prostate cancers can be risk-stratified with a good degree of accuracy. With the advent of novel blood, tissue, and imaging tests, predictive accuracy will increase further in the very near future.

The serum PSA test should not be used alone for screening; it leads to too many unnecessary biopsies. A better estimate of individual risk, including the risk of more lethal disease, can be obtained by combining the PSA test with other information such as age, family history, ethnicity and a host of novel markers being incorporated into so-called risk calculators.

The problem is that treating clinicians have historically done a poor job matching the right patients with the right treatments. These trends are starting to change, and a key advance in recent years, championed by many (including us and others at our institution), is active surveillance for men with low-risk prostate cancer.

Some writers (including the USPSTF) incorrectly conflate active surveillance with the older concept of "watchful waiting," which implies doing nothing, in effect sitting under a sword of Damocles and nervously fearing that the disease may progress to an incurable state. Active surveillance, in contrast, entails careful observation of the tumor through serial testing, with every intent of cure at the first sign of progression. To embrace active surveillance is to descend from the horns of the dilemma between avoidable overtreatment and anxious passivity in the face of an unnerving cancer diagnosis.

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:44 PM

19. Prostate cancer is curable, but not by pot.

Although pot is probably a good thing to have while you are dying from your untreated prostate cancer.

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:43 AM

44. The essence of cannabis use is...



...its psychological effects. If you feel good, as per the effects of cannabis then you are unlikely to get sick. Of course ModernMedicineInc doesn't want to tell you this because they have a variety of treatments on the market, both for suppression of pain and for elevating your mood.

If you or your insurance company can pay for it, they are equipped to cut off a body part or an offending organ that they hope is the source of your pain or discomfort.

Of course there still exists that pesky condition known as phantom pain in body parts that are no longer there. That really should be a clue as to where 'pain' comes from but again it is easier to numb your senses with the latest narcotic.

Narcotics induce complacency and more importantly maintain the big lie of Modern Medicine.

Cannabis makes you sensitive to your bodily needs and to the brainwashing carried on by industrial society. Pot smokers have a low tolerance for crap.

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:34 PM

50. Cannabinoids may help fight cancer

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http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4

"Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumor angiogenesis invasion and metastasis. Cannabinoids appear to kill tumor cells but do not affect their nontransformed counterparts and may even protect them from cell death. These compounds have been shown to induce apoptosis in glioma cells in culture and induce regression of glioma tumors in mice and rats. Cannabinoids protect normal glial cells of astroglial and oligodendroglial lineages from apoptosis mediated by the CB1 receptor."

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #50)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:10 PM

53. thank you for bringing the science in...

those calling it woo-woo can shove it.

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Response to nebenaube (Reply #53)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:58 PM

54. You're welcome

I don't know what the best path for treatment of prostate cancer specifically is at his age, but I just don't think he should be completely ridiculed. Sure, he looks and sounds like the stereotypical "burned out hippy", but he's not necessarily out of his mind for wanting to try that path. He's a pretty old dude and would naturally have concerns about the quality of life conventional treatment would leave him with. We don't know what his doctor said to him, but I do know that not all prostate cancer is treated in old guys.

Also, I can't be shocked that someone who has dedicated a significant amount of his life to promoting his favorite plant family would want to be a public human guinea pig for it's possible medical applications

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:10 PM

55. Tommy Chong stubs toes; says cannabis is a cure

 

Tommy Chong not feeling 100% today; says cannabis is a cure.

Tommy Chong can't find his keys; says cannabis is a cure.

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 03:42 PM

58. kick! nt

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Response to Royal Sloan 09 (Original post)

Sun Jun 24, 2012, 12:53 AM

59. Wow, man!

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