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ChangoLoa

(2,010 posts)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 05:34 PM Jun 2012

A total of 155,788 murders in Venezuela since 1999

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Rhiannon12866 (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: El Universal

Since 1999, the homicide rate has trebled. That very year, when President Hugo Chávez just took office at Miraflores; the Government gave the National Guard a mission concerning a succession of at least 20 security plans. In the interim, 155,788 murders have taken place.

Those officials from the National Guard taking on patrolling and police tasks is one of the aspects that Director of NGO Cofavic, Liliana Ortega finds inappropriate when it comes to making a balance over the Government's performance with regard to security. "The control for public order may not be in the hands of military officers," she claims. "This an international standart still not applied in Venezuela."

In 1999, 5,968 homicides were recorded and. 13 years later, 2011 ended at 19,336 murders. According to the numbers confirmed by NGO Venezuelan Observatory of Violence, murders have risen tremendously by 223% under the current government.

Read more: http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/120609/a-total-of-155788-murders-in-venezuela-since-1999

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A total of 155,788 murders in Venezuela since 1999 (Original Post) ChangoLoa Jun 2012 OP
And Venezuela doesn't even have the highest murder rate in the region. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2012 #1
It is quite common for public order to be kept by the military FarCenter Jun 2012 #2
In dictatorships, sure. In Democracies, there tends to be a bright line between law enforcement and apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #4
Yes. The two tend to be separate and distinct. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #8
Yes, in places like Honduras and Syria. nt geek tragedy Jun 2012 #5
What? Trouble in Saint Hugo's paradise? Say it ain't so.... apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #3
How interesting dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #6
What is the rate of increase in other Latin American countries? JDPriestly Jun 2012 #7
Latest Breaking News? bitchkitty Jun 2012 #9
Locking, sorry, this isn't breaking news. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2012 #10
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
1. And Venezuela doesn't even have the highest murder rate in the region.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 05:44 PM
Jun 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

It's fourth, behind El Salvador, Honduras, and St. Kitts and Nevis.
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
2. It is quite common for public order to be kept by the military
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 05:49 PM
Jun 2012

The distinction between internal and external security is somewhat artificial.

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
4. In dictatorships, sure. In Democracies, there tends to be a bright line between law enforcement and
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 05:55 PM
Jun 2012

the military for reasons that are obvious to anyone who has so much as sat through and paid halfway attention in a junior high civics class.

Of course, Venezuela is a dictatorship in everything but name, so this article does not surprise.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. Yes. The two tend to be separate and distinct.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 06:14 PM
Jun 2012

In fact, one of the troubling trends in the US (in my opinion) is the militarization of our local police forces. That became quite evident in the Occupy rousts.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Yes, in places like Honduras and Syria. nt
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jun 2012

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
3. What? Trouble in Saint Hugo's paradise? Say it ain't so....
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jun 2012




(wait for it...wait for it..."let's talk about the U.S. murder rate instead!!!11", i.e., logical fallacy tu quoque from the Chavez Fan Club).

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
6. How interesting
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jun 2012

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
7. What is the rate of increase in other Latin American countries?
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 06:12 PM
Jun 2012

I don't think it is that high, but I think the murder rate has increased in some other countries too -- like Mexico.

Has the rate maybe decreased in Colombia?

How about Costa Rica? It must have a low rate.

Paraguay? Brazil? Chile? Peru? Bolivia? Other countries?

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
9. Latest Breaking News?
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 06:24 PM
Jun 2012

This may have been published in the last 12 hours, but it's not latest breaking news. It's a poorly translated opinion piece from a right wing rag. Nice try.

Rhiannon12866

(205,236 posts)
10. Locking, sorry, this isn't breaking news.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jun 2012

Please repost in GD or the Latin America group. Thanks!

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