Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:38 PM
sad sally (2,627 posts)
Cornyn doesn’t trust White House to 'investigate itself' over leaks
Source: The Hill
Republican Sen. John Cornyn (Texas) on Thursday repeated calls for a special counsel to investigate recent leaks of classified national-security operations, saying lawmakers should not trust the White House to “investigate itself.” “The special counsel was created so that there should be a measure of independence in investigations like this where the natural tendency of the administration, when it’s the subject of the investigation, the natural tendency is to circle the wagons,” said Cornyn on CNN’s "Starting Point." “I don’t believe that Attorney General Holder or his deputy are going to be able to do a truly independent investigation. “I don’t think we can just let the White House investigate itself or take its word for it that it’s not the source of these leaks,” he added. Last week, leaks detailing a U.S. cyberattack against Iran’s nuclear program and President Obama’s “kill list” targeting al Qaeda operatives formed the basis for stories in The New York Times. Read more: http://thehill.com/video/senate/231421-cornyn-doesnt-trust-white-house-to-investigate-itself-over-leaks Leaks or citizens right to know what their government is doing?
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| sad sally | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| sharp_stick | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| Javaman | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| nykym | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| littlewolf | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| sad sally | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| JDPriestly | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| sudopod | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| calimary | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| BlueDemKev | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| curlyred | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| sad sally | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
| Xedniw | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| JDPriestly | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| sad sally | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
| leveymg | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
| truebrit71 | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
| Dont call me Shirley | Jun 2012 | #17 |
Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:42 PM
sharp_stick (9,165 posts)
1. Go Fuck Yourself Cornyn
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you polyp on the colon of America!
That is all. |
Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:45 PM
nykym (1,450 posts)
2. But for some strange reason
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we are supposed to trust congress to investigate itself right!
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Response to nykym (Reply #2)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:47 PM
littlewolf (1,583 posts)
3. I don't trust anyone to investigate themselves
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the WH ... congress .. MLB ... NBA ... NFL ....
state houses ... NO ONE .... there needs to be oversight on ANY investigation ... |
Response to littlewolf (Reply #3)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:03 PM
sad sally (2,627 posts)
7. Self-investigation rarely finds any fault. In the case of the story about the "kill-list,"
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if it took a leak to get this out, good. Secrecy with the advanced and agressive armed drone program leaves the administration open to criticism. In a democracy, it shouldn't take leaks to let citizens know what its government is up to.
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Response to littlewolf (Reply #3)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 03:26 PM
JDPriestly (37,760 posts)
12. The White House decides the national security category of the information.
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That's not Congress's decision.
That's why it is up to the White House to investigate breaches. Maybe the White House declassified some of the information so that it could be leaked. Sometimes leaking something is a good way to disseminate false information or a way to scare the other side. It can be a strategic decision. It is within the authority of the Commander in Chief to make the call (at least as I understand it). |
Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:54 PM
sudopod (5,019 posts)
4. This White House has been harder on leakers than any other in living memory.
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Last edited Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:54 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) What does Cornyn want, public crucifixions in the Rose Garden?
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Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:59 PM
calimary (30,605 posts)
5. Well, you wouldn't have objected whenever bush/cheney investigated themselves,
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or when your friends on Wall Street and big industry want to investigate themselves.
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Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
BlueDemKev (2,590 posts)
6. And I don't trust a single word that comes out of a right-wing Texan's mouth
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Hey Texas, do the country a favor...SECEDE.
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Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:32 PM
curlyred (1,677 posts)
8. I am more interested in the secret kill list
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whoever leaked this did us a favor.
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Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:35 PM
Xedniw (134 posts)
9. Why are they investigating the "leak" and not the "Kill List" itself?
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It's the Kill List that violates the spirit and the letter of the 4th Amendment.
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Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 03:24 PM
JDPriestly (37,760 posts)
11. When Bush was president, we were told that, since the White House ultimately
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determines what and what is not top secret, it can leak what it wants.
It just changes the security clearance level on the information or document. That is why, as I understand the Bush administration's explanation of secrecy laws, Bush and Cheney could leak things that Congress and low level employees couldn't. Am I wrong about this? Does anyone else remember this the way I do? |
Response to JDPriestly (Reply #11)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 04:49 PM
sad sally (2,627 posts)
13. You're right, as I remember, Valerie Plame's travel itinery as a CIA agent was unclassified and
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"leaked" to Bob Novak, which ended her career as well as put agents she was working with in jeopardy.
A search shows this list: The Bush administration is generally regarded as much more secretive than many previous administrations. Even so, there have been leaks. The following is a current (?) listing of Bush administration leaks: Ahmed Chalabi: Fall from Grace Al Jazeera bombing leak Bush administration: duped into war with Iraq? Bush administration lies that led to war Bush administration: personal data leaks and invasion of privacy Coalition Provisional Authority: March 2004 Reconstruction of Iraq Memo Coleen Rowley George W. Bush's domestic spying Laurent Murawiec ... a Pentagon leak. Marwat Farhan Memogate (also known as Cybergate) National Planning Scenarios prewar intelligence Richard A. Clarke: August 2002 background briefing Richard A. Clarke: Post-9/11 email Rumsfeld Memo 16 October 2003 surveillance drone videotape 2000 The U.S. v. I. Lewis Libby Taguba Report Valerie Plame / Karl Rove: Outing Valerie Plame http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bush_administration_leaks |
Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 04:51 PM
leveymg (26,365 posts)
14. Fact is, Cronyn, the Admin. can instantly declassify anything it wants, and can decide who it wants
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to prosecute for leaks. It's all political, national security has nothing to do with most of it.
The official leak from the top is a Washington institution. John Cronyn, just pathetic. |
Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 05:02 PM
truebrit71 (16,911 posts)
16. What and let you start another tax-payer funded fishing expedition like Ken Starr?
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If you think we'll let that happen again you're even dumber than you look you stupid asscarrot..
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Response to sad sally (Original post)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 08:17 PM
Dont call me Shirley (1,395 posts)

