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Galraedia

(5,022 posts)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:13 PM Jun 2012

Jesse Kelly Calls Gabrielle Giffords 'A Hero Of Nothing'

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- A Democratic super PAC is airing a new ad in the special election race to replace former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) that features Republican Jesse Kelly calling her a "hero of nothing."

"And now she stands there with that smile and pretends to be some type of hometown hero," Kelly says in the clip, which began airing Monday. "She's a hero of nothing."

Kelly made the comment at a campaign event in August 2010, less than half a year before the Tucson shooting rampage that left six dead and 13 wounded, including Giffords.

A call to Kelly's campaign regarding the comments was not immediately returned.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/04/jesse-kelly-gabrielle-giffords-ad_n_1568655.html?ref=politics



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Jesse Kelly Calls Gabrielle Giffords 'A Hero Of Nothing' (Original Post) Galraedia Jun 2012 OP
Headline made me think the Dems were calling her that! NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #1
That's stupid Turbineguy Jun 2012 #2
I agree - It's a complete misrepresentation of his words. And I love it. n/t sweetloukillbot Jun 2012 #5
Hear hear! MatthewStLouis Jun 2012 #36
Maybe because it's the Karl Rove playbook? RZM Jun 2012 #11
Not dirty tricks--the announcer CLEARLY says "two years ago" when they play that quote. MADem Jun 2012 #22
As if people pay attention to details like that, the super pac knew what it was doing Exultant Democracy Jun 2012 #26
Rove would not have made the distinction--that's the difference. MADem Jun 2012 #27
I hate to say this Dokkie Jun 2012 #32
This is one of Romney's people Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #3
Every Dem in Congress who stands up for labor and the little guy is a hero to me derby378 Jun 2012 #4
Am with you on this derby378 southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #6
Did she? I don't live there any more and the people I know are in the Phoenix area, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #12
She caucused with blue dogs. boppers Jun 2012 #14
Her district was held by a moderate Republican forever sweetloukillbot Jun 2012 #16
She was in my high school. I had a crush on her when I was 14. boppers Jun 2012 #17
I always knew Kolbe was gay Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #34
He was out as long as I can remember sweetloukillbot Jun 2012 #35
C'mon, Arizona! Don't give this tool a chance to ruin America. freshwest Jun 2012 #7
Wow. That's BRILLIANT. proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #8
Not really--Rove wouldn't indicate in the commercial that the guy said it before the shooting. MADem Jun 2012 #20
That's why I think it's brilliant proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #30
Yep! Concur! nt MADem Jun 2012 #31
More on Jelly, opps, Jesse Kelly RRowleyTucson Jun 2012 #9
I only wish there was a hell so Jesse Kelly Zoeisright Jun 2012 #10
I would wager that Jesse Kelley never said this GoldenOldie Jun 2012 #13
Did the words "Tea Bag Party" actually pass his lips? sudopod Jun 2012 #15
His lips are moving and there is video of him saying it. He said it. MADem Jun 2012 #19
What happened to the "GOP"? They sold their souls. calimary Jun 2012 #24
If he did say that, then I think RebelOne Jun 2012 #28
It's not that the Republicans "allow" the likes of Jesse Kelley to represent them DFW Jun 2012 #29
I'll tell you why it does NOT MATTER WHEN he said that. MADem Jun 2012 #18
he must have mistook Giffords for the real hero of nothing newspeak Jun 2012 #21
Bingo! nt MADem Jun 2012 #23
Giffords is a DLCer, but that is disgustingly low! Odin2005 Jun 2012 #25
I fully reject Kelly Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #33

MatthewStLouis

(904 posts)
36. Hear hear!
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jun 2012

The quote is disgusting and if it's "out of context" too damn bad! Kelly should keep his stomach turning opinions to himself.

Great profile pic, by the way.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
11. Maybe because it's the Karl Rove playbook?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:15 PM
Jun 2012


People can't have it both ways here. Either you like the dirty tricks or you don't. If you do, then don't criticize the other side for doing it. If you don't, then don't use them yourself.

Pretty simple.

I don't approve of dirty tricks and quotes being taken out of context. I don't give a damn who does it. Dirty tricks are dirty tricks and I don't respect those who use them.

BTW, even though I disapprove of the dirty tricks, I'm not saying people shouldn't use them. Though i never would, t's a jungle out there and only the strong survive. All I'm saying is that anybody who endorses this but condemned Breitbart for Shirley Sherrod is a straight up hypocrite.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. Not dirty tricks--the announcer CLEARLY says "two years ago" when they play that quote.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jun 2012

GG was shot last year and everyone in her district knows that. The Kelly quote is sourced as two years ago.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
26. As if people pay attention to details like that, the super pac knew what it was doing
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:45 PM
Jun 2012

and I fully support it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. Rove would not have made the distinction--that's the difference.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:55 PM
Jun 2012

You can't blame the ad maker if the viewer ignores parts of the message! The PAC is in the clear because they did state when the guy made the remark!

 

Dokkie

(1,688 posts)
32. I hate to say this
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:27 PM
Jun 2012

but dying in a war, surviving a gun shot doesn't automatically make one a hero. If she wasn't a hero to him before she was shot, I don't exactly know why he believe she deserves a hero status now. I have to say that I am one of those people who knew absolutely nothing about Gabby Gifford before the shooting.


Not exactly sure why they would include the last line in the add, it takes away from his other insane quotes in the add. Lets just hope it doesn't backfire like the Grayson add

derby378

(30,252 posts)
4. Every Dem in Congress who stands up for labor and the little guy is a hero to me
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jun 2012

This asshole doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Darn good thing he didn't say that after Giffords got shot.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
12. Did she? I don't live there any more and the people I know are in the Phoenix area,
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:18 PM
Jun 2012

but I was told that she is/was another "pro-business" corporate democrat by those I know to be OG liberals. They didn't like her except insofar as she was less terrible than the nut-bars with the 'R' at the and of the ballot.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
14. She caucused with blue dogs.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:11 AM
Jun 2012

"Considered a "Blue Dog" Democrat,[1] her stances on health care reform and illegal immigration were sources of attention for those opposed to her candidacy and have made her a recipient of criticism from various conservative groups. She has described herself as a "former Republican."[2]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrielle_Giffords

sweetloukillbot

(11,004 posts)
16. Her district was held by a moderate Republican forever
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:40 AM
Jun 2012

And probably would still be had he not been involved in the gay page scandal and had a psycho right-winger primary him. It is not a blue district by any stretch, although there are strong blue parts to it. Gabby went to Congress in the 2006 wave that gave us a whole lot of blue dogs - along with two other blue dogs in AZ (who are since defeated, but may get back in because of redistricting in 2012).
She was popular, engaged with her constituents and represented her district well - I think that's what counts more than her ideological purity.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
17. She was in my high school. I had a crush on her when I was 14.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:05 AM
Jun 2012

She was an Arizona Democrat, guns, horses and all.

So, I cut her some slack. Blame teenage hormones.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
34. I always knew Kolbe was gay
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jun 2012

I was just waiting for him to get out of the damn closet and resign.

He did eventually resign after not admitting that he's gay and got into a scandal.

sweetloukillbot

(11,004 posts)
35. He was out as long as I can remember
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:04 PM
Jun 2012

He didn't step down, but he did decline to run for reelection after being accused of molesting pages with Mark Foley. He did vote for DOMA and opposed gay marriage which makes him a hypocrite though.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. Not really--Rove wouldn't indicate in the commercial that the guy said it before the shooting.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:42 AM
Jun 2012

The announcer plainly says "Two Years Ago." Rove would make it sound like the guy said it yesterday.

GoldenOldie

(1,540 posts)
13. I would wager that Jesse Kelley never said this
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:46 PM
Jun 2012

Jesse Kelley doesn't have the capacity to think for himself. He plagiarizes other Tea Bagger comments and is incapable of an independent thought or opinion. On each and every question he has been asked to give an opinion on he never, ever responds to the question but simply regurgitates a canned Tea Bagger statement.

As far as Giffords not being a hero, Giffords spent all of her at home-time in Arizona with her constituents throughout Southern Arizona. She personally knows all the Border residents, the Military bases, and the individuals. She has done this with her personal outreach to the citizens......such as her visit to the shopping mall where she was critically wounded. As a Tucsonan and long time citizen of Southern Arizona, Jesse Kelly, a 10-year resident of Arizona, a high-school graduate, has never spent a moment in educating himself on the culture, the peoples and the needs of Southern Arizona in which he wants to represent. Jesse Kelly will only be a body in DC who will do whatever the big boys tell him to do.

When Jesse Kelly was asked, who he related himself to more, the Republican Party or the Tea Bag Party, Jesse, replied the Tea Bag Party....this makes me wonder, what happened to the "GOP," the Republican Party when it has allowed the likes of a Jesse Kelly to represent them???

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. His lips are moving and there is video of him saying it. He said it.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jun 2012

Watch the commercial. It very clearly says WHEN he said it, too.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
29. It's not that the Republicans "allow" the likes of Jesse Kelley to represent them
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jun 2012

In states like Arizona, they encourage it. Play to your audience. Even McCain has gotten
too "soft" for the rabid extremist wing of the Republican Party, and in Arizona, they rule.

Jesse Kelley, Allen West, Joe Walsh and Louie Gohmert are the true faces of the Republican
Party now. Be reasonable, and you end up like Richard Lugar. Lugar made the mistake of
thinking he was sent to Washington to represent the people of Indiana. He missed the boat.
Maybe 15 years ago, he would have been right. Today, it went right past him that Republicans
in Congress are there to do the bidding of the Koch Brothers, Big Oil and the NRA.

Gabby Giffords happens to be a friend of mine. I haven't seen her since she was shot, (hope to
see her this December) but before the shooting, she was 1000 times the person Jesse Kelley is.
Maybe now the ratio is down to 999 times the person Jesse Kelley is, but he'll still never make up
the difference in this lifetime.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. I'll tell you why it does NOT MATTER WHEN he said that.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:38 AM
Jun 2012

It's "appearance-based snark." When people make fun of others based on their appearance (her smile, in this case, that lights up a room) it shows that they don't have anything that's an actual argument against the person. It shows the guy to be a mean-spirited shithead, who calls social security a Ponzi scheme, who wants to eliminate the minimum wage.


And it's not "Rovian dirty tricks"--watch the video, the reader plainly says "And TWO YEARS AGO, Kelly said this about Giffords..."

It's quite clearly said--it's not ambiguous.

Anyone voting in that election will know when the shooting happened, and it happened less than two years ago (Jan 11).

That commercial is fair--he said it, he owns it. It's nothing but video-recorded quotes from an asshole, that thing!

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
21. he must have mistook Giffords for the real hero of nothing
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jun 2012

I mean it doesn't take much to stand on rubble with a bullhorn after not protecting the country, and then start a fabricated war or dress like a pilot with a "mission accomplished" banner. Or party down while others are crawling in rice paddies in vietnam. Yep, I bet he was confused.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
33. I fully reject Kelly
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jun 2012

because he's an idiot, and I saw his ad once - using a fully automatic gun to target Gabby.

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