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Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:30 AM

University of Minnesota Scientist Drops Bombshell About Walker: Says He Fathered Child at Marquette

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Source: uppitywis.org, by Jud Lounsbury on 06/02/2012

Yesterday, the University of Minnesota's Dr. Bernadette Gillick was best known as a nationally recognized scientist for her research into how the brain recovers from injuries.

After today, she will likely be forever known for coming forward and telling the world that Scott Walker fathered a child and refused to take responsibility for it while at Marquette:

Bernadette Gillick was a college freshman in 1988 when she first met Scott Walker. It was spring semester, and she had just transferred to Marquette University. She was assigned a room in O’Donnell Hall (then a women’s dormitory), which she shared with her new roommate, Ruth (not her real name). Ruth was dating Scott Walker, who was 20 at the time ...

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Read more: http://www.uppitywis.org/blogarticle/university-minnesota-scientist-drops-bombshell-about-walker-says



Baby John Doe?

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Reply University of Minnesota Scientist Drops Bombshell About Walker: Says He Fathered Child at Marquette (Original post)
L. Coyote Jun 2012 OP
ewagner Jun 2012 #1
L. Coyote Jun 2012 #20
nanabugg Jun 2012 #47
AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #52
OKNancy Jun 2012 #21
L. Coyote Jun 2012 #24
coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #41
dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #44
Turbineguy Jun 2012 #53
The Wielding Truth Jun 2012 #50
ewagner Jun 2012 #54
RKP5637 Jun 2012 #2
L. Coyote Jun 2012 #16
RKP5637 Jun 2012 #34
Schema Thing Jun 2012 #3
Rozlee Jun 2012 #17
Mayflower1 Jun 2012 #4
WriteWrong Jun 2012 #13
daaron Jun 2012 #30
pennylane100 Jun 2012 #33
kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #40
RKP5637 Jun 2012 #5
RBInMaine Jun 2012 #6
postulater Jun 2012 #9
pnwmom Jun 2012 #29
Poiuyt Jun 2012 #12
JayNev Jun 2012 #15
OKNancy Jun 2012 #19
Poiuyt Jun 2012 #25
Jackpine Radical Jun 2012 #27
postulater Jun 2012 #7
krispos42 Jun 2012 #8
brewens Jun 2012 #10
freshwest Jun 2012 #18
RKP5637 Jun 2012 #38
PatSeg Jun 2012 #11
SCVDem Jun 2012 #14
Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #22
MADem Jun 2012 #23
bucolic_frolic Jun 2012 #26
mysuzuki2 Jun 2012 #28
pnwmom Jun 2012 #31
bucolic_frolic Jun 2012 #35
L. Coyote Jun 2012 #37
IamK Jun 2012 #32
bucolic_frolic Jun 2012 #42
alp227 Jun 2012 #49
RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #36
L. Coyote Jun 2012 #39
RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #55
Ellipsis Jun 2012 #43
L. Coyote Jun 2012 #45
Iliyah Jun 2012 #51
emilyg Jun 2012 #46
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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:31 AM

1. Careful....

Has this story been properly vetted?

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Response to ewagner (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:55 AM

20. The Walker love child story

http://www.uppitywis.org/blogarticle/walker-love-child-story

The Walker love child story
Submitted by Steve Hanson on Sun, 06/03/2012 - 9:44am

This is one of those mornings of mixed feelings in my office. Jim Hightower has often said that mixed feelings is what you have when your daughter comes home from the prom with a Gideon bible in her purse, and somehow that's appropriate here.

We don't have any direct confirrmation of this story, and it may well turn out not to be true. It is only an allegation, but it is an allegation by someone who one would really expect to be credible. We were very much tempted to sit on this story, since it is obviously open to questioning, particularly considering the timing. We understand all of that, and we also understand that in the grand scheme of things, there are much more important reasons to consider Scott Walker unfit for office (about which you will hear more in the next two days). Although this is nor originally our story, and comes from the Wisconsin Citizens Media Coop, I'm not going to try to chicken out by saying it's their responsibilty. We've published it here, and take responsibility for the fact that we've done so.

Clearly many will not believe this story about Walker's possible behavior as a college student, and of course you are all welcome to your doubt. I personally have doubts about this story, and expect no less from our readers. But this story is currently flooding the Internet, and whether you choose to believe it or not it is going to be the subject of debate around water coolers everywhere tomorrow. ..............

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:35 PM

47. The GOP thrives on "allegations" and the ditto heads love it!! Even after a story is proved

 

to be untrue there will be enough lingering questions to hurt. Just think about the birthers and the story of the Clintons murdering Vince Foster.

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Response to nanabugg (Reply #47)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:30 PM

52. And That Sort of Thing ONLY Works for the Republicans, Because They Own the Media

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Response to ewagner (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:57 AM

21. as posted downthread.... no it sounds bogus

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:08 PM

24. Beware the unknown unknowns?

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #24)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:05 PM

41. Alcibiades_Mystery's poetic genius will live through the ages:

 

There once was a Sec of Defense
Whose prose was Excessively Dense
His Philosopher's Stone
Was an Unknown Unknown -
I'll Be Damned If It Made Any Sense

From the dusty DU2 archives:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2642693

Scroll down on the page for more great Rumsefeld limericks. I'm particularly partial to the ones by Orrex and alcibiades_mystery.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #41)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:23 PM

44. Fantastic to have the that past link.

I had missed the rumsfeld limerick contest thread.
Thank you for sharing it.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:38 PM

53. Well yes

but then again, who admit to having sex with that guy?

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Response to ewagner (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:59 PM

50. True or not Walker is bad for WI !He has rewarded his $ backers and hurt his constituents!

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #50)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 03:09 PM

54. Walker is bad for Wisconsin regardless

...I agree with that...but don't give him a sympathy vote in a close election by spreading untruths...especially UNVERIFIED UNTRUTHS ...that's my only point

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:34 AM

2. The link is not working ... wonder if it was taken down? or broken. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:48 AM

16. Seems to be working just fine

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:40 PM

34. Yep, working perfectly now! n/t

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:35 AM

3. Tread lightly



Remember how much of a political winner the Bush TXNG story was for us.

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Response to Schema Thing (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:49 AM

17. And the Bush drunk driving story days before the election.

It might garner second thoughts or irk many on the timing and sensationalism.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:37 AM

4. What difference does it make, even if it were true?

Focus on the issues!

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Response to Mayflower1 (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:46 AM

13. If integrity isn't THE issue, no other issue will matter - lies trump issues every time

 

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Response to Mayflower1 (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:34 PM

30. Focus on what works!

 

You can't reason with crazy. It's just as crazy to keep trying.

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Response to Mayflower1 (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:40 PM

33. The difference is that if it is true,

it goes to character. A deadbeat bad who has tried to encourage abortion for an unwanted pregnancy for his child while making sure no women in his state gets the same opportunity is certainly no fit to be governor. If it is not true, well so we took a page out of their book. C'est la vie.

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Response to Mayflower1 (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:55 PM

40. It does matter. Let those who live by the sword die by the sword.

Repukes campaign morning, noon, and night on "family values", so when they are found to be completely lacking in those values themselves it's fair game to expose them for their rank hypocrisy.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:38 AM

5. Here's some more ... front page worked. http://www.uppitywis.org/

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:38 AM

6. Daily KOS says the woman in question DENIES the story. Says its not the asshole's kid.

Good for the kid. Doesn't have to have this asshole as a father.

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:39 AM

9. Link please.

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:42 AM

12. But the article claims he acknowledged the child

She says Walker eventually had to concede that he was the father, after the birth and paternity test. So there is physical evidence out there.

Still, my guess is that Wanker will just deny the story and his brain dead supporters will believe what they want to believe

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:47 AM

15. Child Support

I think if he acknowledged paternity, or if the paternity tests came back positive, he would be paying child support.

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Response to JayNev (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:53 AM

19. or maybe she doesn't want to have anything to do with him

it happens

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:23 PM

25. I think a more likely scenario is that she's receiving hush money

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Response to JayNev (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:28 PM

27. The kid is now 23.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:38 AM

7. Here's the link to the original.



http://wcmcoop.com/members/integrity-the-child-scott-walker-left-behind/

"After consulting with her family, Ruth decided against an abortion. Bernadette was with Ruth in the hospital for the birth of her child later that year (and says Walker was not present), and later stood up as a bridesmaid in Ruth’s 1992 marriage to another man. She says Walker eventually had to concede that he was the father, after the birth and paternity test."

I wanna see the paternity papers. Block out the mom and kid's name, but it would be so sweet to see Scot 'I Am Not A Crook' Walker's name on the paper.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:39 AM

8. Of course he did... he's pro-family...

... which means the odds are excellent he's:

  • cheating on his wife with a man (closeted gay)
  • cheating on his wife with another woman
  • secretly had a child out of wedlock
  • already divorced and working on marriage 2+
  • had a girlfriend or wife who secretly had an abortion



It's not as sure as sunset following sunrise, but it's not that far behind!

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:40 AM

10. Teabagger voice- Them's just more librul lies. LALALALALA (earscovered) then

run to my favrit hate radio pervert to git taught the truth!

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Response to brewens (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:50 AM

18. Yes, that is the pattern. Like an addiction. Works everytime.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:44 PM

38. And denial. So many times I've had republicans say, "well, if that's what YOU choose to believe." nt

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:41 AM

11. Who would want to admit they slept with Walker?

"The story that Scott Walker abandoned his pregnant girlfriend in college (dKos diary link) failed the first test of verification by a professional reporter. Daniel Bice, the "Watchdog" reporter of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Online interviewed the anonymous woman who had the baby, but she adamantly denied that Scott Walker was the father according to a comment by Daniel Bice to the linked story."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/03/1096950/-Woman-Denies-Walker-Fathered-Baby-JSO-Reporter-Daniel-Bice

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:47 AM

14. We are the Birthers

Resistance is futile!

Your papers, please!

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:59 AM

22. Dang. Walker was a deadbeat father!

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:03 PM

23. What a fucking CAD! nt

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:27 PM

26. What will Sarah say about this BIRTHER development?

'Teen pregnancy is a terrible thing! We should teach our kids abstinence!!'???

Oh wait, can't say that ... there's Bristol!

'Johnny Edwards should keep his pants on!'???

Oh, wait, can't say that ... there's Bristol and Scott.

Considered prediction indicates this development will not elicit any whiny twits from Alaska.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:31 PM

28. I have no idea whether this story is true or not but it seems to me

that it would have surfaced a long time ago, if true. If the paternity determination was in Wisconsin it should be on CCAP

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Response to mysuzuki2 (Reply #28)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:34 PM

31. It might be a Rovian-style tactic, to make his opponents look bad

without changing the minds of any of his die-hard supporters, who have reason now for thinking he was smeared.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/03/1096950/-Woman-Denies-Walker-Fathered-Baby-JSO-Reporter-Daniel-Bice

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:40 PM

35. Could elicit a Dan Quayle Indignancy Moment

"That was really uncalled for!"

And make Walker look like the offended party.

So yes, I'm thinking it could be an INSIDE JOB.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:42 PM

37. And Watergate was a Nixonian tactic. ROFLMAO

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:39 PM

32. sounds like a desperate Barrett campaign....

 

The story that Scott Walker abandoned his pregnant girlfriend in college (dKos diary link) failed the first test of verification by a professional reporter. Daniel Bice, the "Watchdog" reporter of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Online interviewed the anonymous woman who had the baby, but she adamantly denied that Scott Walker was the father according to a comment by Daniel Bice to the linked story.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/03/1096950/-Woman-Denies-Walker-Fathered-Baby-JSO-Reporter-Daniel-Bice

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Response to IamK (Reply #32)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:08 PM

42. in politics

one tries everything to see if it sticks.

it could sway a couple thousand votes, motivate a few thousand more.

perhaps the election is closer than generally thought?

if they're 7% behind there's no sense in doing this stuff

i'd say the timing is suspect, but sometimes all the pieces of a damaging story take
time and cooperation to assemble. When all the pieces don't fall into place, you realize
there's a point and time to spend the political capital you do have - or lose it altogether

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Response to IamK (Reply #32)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:54 PM

49. The reporter says ANOTHER Scott Walker was the father.

That Scott has a different middle name.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:41 PM

36. DANGER WILL ROBINSON!!

This bombshell positively reeks of KKKarl Rove.

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #36)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:47 PM

39. Yeah, it was Karl who announced, just days before the election, that Bush was AWOL

on a coke bing, just to make Kerry look bad.

Where does this kind of reasoning arise? A Republican candidate facing a John Doe felony indictment what, needs a distraction with a lessor scandal so no one notices the big one? Ludicrous.

I'm glad you are not running my campaigns.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #39)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 03:23 PM

55. It's being debunked by people who don't have a pro-Walker agenda. But don't let that stop you!

We need to be careful with stories like this that haven't been verified. Yes, someone could be impersonating Daniel Bice, but the comment rings true to me. Yes, the woman who had the baby could be covering up for some undisclosed reason, but we have zero evidence of that. Note, the official CCAP family court records that Daniel Bice and others accessed do not indicate that governor Scott Walker was the father.

Woman Denies Walker Fathered Baby - JSO Reporter Daniel Bice

Let me explain how it works. A rumor with no basis or that has long-ago been disproven miraculously resurfaces, goes viral, but then gets definitively debunked, putting the good guys on the defensive amidst accusations of smear tactics, and, more importantly, poisoning the water for many other legitimate allegations.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:19 PM

43. This is more of a LBR story.... Late breaking rumor.... a bit premature.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:28 PM

45. Did Self-Styled ‘Mr. Morality’ Scott Walker Father a Love Child in 1988?

http://my.firedoglake.com/phoenix/2012/06/02/did-self-styled-mr-morality-scott-walker-father-a-love-child-in-1988/


A variation of this rumor was posted at Gawker late last month (like four days ago), though per then-Gawker writer Maureen O’Connor (who mentioned the rumor as one of the tips she received but never wrote up at the time) it was sent to her in February of 2011:

From: Countess Elizabeth Báthory of Hungary
To: Maureen O’Connor ... Feb 22, 2011 ...
I have, at this point, what is just a rumor, but it’s one from a reliable source and would be a GREAT scoop if it could be verified. Our high school educated Governor Scott Walker is reported to have been tossed out of Marquette University for impregnating a married, 30 year old woman. He is SUCH a family values guy.

..... there is a major discrepancy between the two stories — namely, the age of the lady Walker allegedly knocked up and then abandoned. One has her as a thirty-year-old; the other, as an eighteen-year-old student and Walker’s girlfriend ....

UPDATE: Conspiracy theorists might well wonder if these rumors are being released to distract from this bit of news:

With the recall election less than two days away, federal prosecutors are closing in on Governor Scott Walker ...

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #45)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 02:11 PM

51. Yep, I would say a distraction

brought up by Karrrrrrrlllllllllll Asshole Roooooovvvvveeeeee's people dba Corporations are People Tooooooooooo.

Let's buy "Amercia (Mitten's version)" and fuck the little people even some more cause its FUN (bully Mittens).

Looks like Barrett has a shot of winning, although didn't I read where a certain county supervisor is back on the beat (stealing by forgetting to submit thousands of goper ballots)

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:28 PM

46. Doesn't interest me.

 

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 01:36 PM

48. Pay up Scottie

Let's see how that flies with evangelicals, oh they're into forgiveness... for repukes

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Jun 3, 2012, 03:46 PM

56. Locking

after some thought about this... the rules for LBN say
Post the latest news from reputable mainstream news websites and blogs


This is not a mainstream news source. This story also has been debunked by a "real" reporter.
Until this can be verified as more than a rumor, this topic is locked.

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