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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:37 PM Feb 2016

Netanyahu: If US Military Aid Doesn't Address Israel's Security Needs, We'll Wait for Next President

Source: Haaretz

Prime minister says he's not worried about U.S. action on the Palestinian issue at the UN Security Council during the remainder of Obama's time in office.

Barak Ravid Feb 07, 2016 7:42 PM

If Israel's security needs are not sufficiently addressed as part of negotiations with the U.S. on a new memorandum of understanding on American military aid to the country, Israel will defer signing it, in an effort to obtain better terms, until a new American president takes office next year, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Sunday's cabinet meeting.

"It's not yet clear that we will come to an agreement," Netanyahu told the cabinet members in the course of a diplomatic-security briefing by acting national security adviser Jacob Nagel, who also heads the Israeli team negotiating memorandum with the Americans. "[We] need to see if [we] can achieve a result that will address Israel's security needs or perhaps we will not manage to come to an agreement with this administration and will need to come to an agreement with the next administration."

Last Thursday, an American delegation led by Yael Lempert, the Special Assistant to the president and Senior Director for the Levant, Israel and Egypt at the National Security Council in the White House, who arrived in Israel to hold a third round of negotiations on the matter. Over the past three days, the American team held discussions with a team of counterparts from the national security staff in the Prime Minister's Office and from the Defense Ministry, the Israel Defense Forces and the Foreign Ministry. The main topic of discussion in the talks was the size of the aid that the United States would provide Israel and the conditions on its use.

Netanyahu's remarks at the cabinet meeting raise the possibility that the round of talks in Jerusalem will not achieve substantial progress. Just two weeks ago, in the course of his visit to the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, where the prime minister met with American Vice President Joe Biden, and where the two discussed the matter, the prime minister sounded much more optimistic. In an interview on stage with American journalist Fareed Zakaria, Netanyahu noted that he believed Israel and the United States would manage to wrap up negotiations in a positive manner on a new security memorandum of understanding in the coming months that would outline the size of American assistance to the IDF for the coming decade.


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Netanyahu: If US Military Aid Doesn't Address Israel's Security Needs, We'll Wait for Next President (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2016 OP
Expect war with Iran if Hillary is elected. OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #1
Expect war with Iran if Hillary is elected. The CCC Feb 2016 #17
There will likely be Mid East response and Russian response if we did that. trillion Feb 2016 #24
Details, details. OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #31
That is the biggest Crock of Crap itcfish Feb 2016 #36
A virtual guarantee harun Feb 2016 #39
He's hoping for one of these three. Wilms Feb 2016 #2
Whoa billhicks76 Feb 2016 #22
Why do we give military aid to Israel? Helen Borg Feb 2016 #3
Simple atreides1 Feb 2016 #4
we can't keep up our roads and bridges and provide healthcare for all our citizens..... raindaddy Feb 2016 #5
SOMEBODY will have to start talking about that too, very soon... Helen Borg Feb 2016 #6
The amount of foreign aid to all countries (including Israel) is minuscule oberliner Feb 2016 #8
While I'm not going to do the math, since we spend more than the rest of the world raindaddy Feb 2016 #10
Military spending was $600 billion in 2015 oberliner Feb 2016 #12
I find it strange that the repubs running for office safeinOhio Feb 2016 #19
+ 1 red dog 1 Feb 2016 #14
No Politician in the US itcfish Feb 2016 #37
I'm not saying the US should ever "go against" Israel.. raindaddy Feb 2016 #40
Because they buy US military equipment with the money oberliner Feb 2016 #7
And our politicians let's not forget... eom Purveyor Feb 2016 #11
because they're one of a kind: ericson00 Feb 2016 #18
Would be nice if they were a free country safeinOhio Feb 2016 #21
Freedom House, meh. OnyxCollie Feb 2016 #32
Camp David Accords - the price for an Israeli and Eygptian peace treaty hack89 Feb 2016 #30
Bernie Sanders: “I’m not a great fan” of Benjamin Netanyahu oberliner Feb 2016 #9
Thanks for that link red dog 1 Feb 2016 #13
+10000 trillion Feb 2016 #25
Obama has given Israel every dollar he has been requested to provide bluestateguy Feb 2016 #15
Bibi views it as an entitlement EndElectoral Feb 2016 #29
K&R...Thanks for posting, Purveyor red dog 1 Feb 2016 #16
It would be much easier to convince leftynyc Feb 2016 #38
Bibi sure thinks he has a lot to say about American politics DirkGently Feb 2016 #20
How about Israel paying for Israel's military needs. trillion Feb 2016 #23
Obama should send Netanyahu a nice letter on heavy card stock that says "Your proposal is accepted." Vote2016 Feb 2016 #26
why help Israel at all? what do we get out of defending them? larkrake Feb 2016 #27
A simple thank you for all the aid would be nice gwheezie Feb 2016 #28
would be interesting debacle for Israel if they had to push against an American Jew PatrynXX Feb 2016 #33
Here's a thought: let Israel address it's own security needs sinkingfeeling Feb 2016 #34
Must not be a very pressing concern, then! randome Feb 2016 #35
Sure, When Bernie Is President he will help you.... Duckfan Feb 2016 #41
How much have they spent on F-35s so far? -nt Bradical79 Feb 2016 #42
 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
1. Expect war with Iran if Hillary is elected.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:45 PM
Feb 2016

She can have McCain sing "Bomb, Bomb, Iran" at her inauguration.

Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/22/us-usa-politics-iran-idUSN2224332720080422

On the day of a crucial vote in her nomination battle against fellow Democrat Barack Obama, the New York senator said she wanted to make clear to Tehran what she was prepared to do as president in hopes that this warning would deter any Iranian nuclear attack against the Jewish state.

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran (if it attacks Israel)," Clinton said in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America."

"In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them," she said.

"That's a terrible thing to say but those people who run Iran need to understand that because that perhaps will deter them from doing something that would be reckless, foolish and tragic," Clinton said.

The CCC

(463 posts)
17. Expect war with Iran if Hillary is elected.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

The US militarily can wipe Iran off the map. The rest of the world wants access to their markets, and oil.

itcfish

(1,828 posts)
36. That is the biggest Crock of Crap
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:14 AM
Feb 2016

I've ever seen posted by a Bernie Supporter, and I've seen a lot of crap from both sides. But this is not only a lie but a dangerous one.

atreides1

(16,063 posts)
4. Simple
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:05 PM
Feb 2016

If we didn't then the evangelicals and fundamentalist "Christians" would have a cow!!!

Also, the MIC would have one less customer to sell their products of death to!!!

Personally, Israel is a sovereign country and they should be responsible for their own security...

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
5. we can't keep up our roads and bridges and provide healthcare for all our citizens.....
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

but we're supposed to continually bend over for Isreal's current RW government...

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
6. SOMEBODY will have to start talking about that too, very soon...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:13 PM
Feb 2016

It's another one of those things that is impolite to mention.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. The amount of foreign aid to all countries (including Israel) is minuscule
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

Just a 2 percent cut in defense spending would be more than all the foreign aid we give to all countries.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
10. While I'm not going to do the math, since we spend more than the rest of the world
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:30 PM
Feb 2016

combined ,I'm thinking that pays for a lot of health coverage..

safeinOhio

(32,623 posts)
19. I find it strange that the repubs running for office
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:46 PM
Feb 2016

aren't upset that the amount we give Israel for military equals about 80% of what they spend on universal health care in Israel. That includes 2 free abortions for females in the army. You could just shift the figures and conclude we pay for their Socialized medicine for Israel, but none for us.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
40. I'm not saying the US should ever "go against" Israel..
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 11:58 AM
Feb 2016

I'm saying that considering that healthcare in Israel is universal and their infrastructure isn't crumbling because of lack of funds and their college education system is cheep by our standards maybe before we consider another raise in military aid we should consider the poor and middle class here in America.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Because they buy US military equipment with the money
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

It's just an another way to funnel more money into the military industrial complex.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
18. because they're one of a kind:
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:26 PM
Feb 2016

theyre the only Freedom House ranked free nation in the Middle East


until they're joined by other countries, I will reflexively side with Israel.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
32. Freedom House, meh.
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:27 AM
Feb 2016

I don't care much for an organization that has had Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Samuel Huntington, and Steve Forbes as its board members.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
30. Camp David Accords - the price for an Israeli and Eygptian peace treaty
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 01:17 AM
Feb 2016

that's also the reason we give so much military aid to Eygpt.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. Bernie Sanders: “I’m not a great fan” of Benjamin Netanyahu
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:26 PM
Feb 2016

REHM: How do you believe President Obama’s relationship with Prime Minister Netanyahu has affected our relationship with Israel?

SANDERS: Well, I gotta tell you, I am not a great fan of President Netanyahu I did not attend the speech that he gave before the joint session of Congress. I think it was opportunistic. I think he was using it as part of his campaign for re-election. I think he was being used or did use the Republicans to go behind the President’s back. And I think in that region sadly on both sides I don’t think we have the kind of leadership that we need. And so you know I think the President is trying to do the best that he can in enormously difficult circumstances.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/16/bernie_sanders_im_not_a_great_fan_of_benjamin_netanyahu_partner/

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
15. Obama has given Israel every dollar he has been requested to provide
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:59 PM
Feb 2016

at a great disappointment to his own political supporters in the United States.

Bibi needs to appreciate that.

red dog 1

(27,742 posts)
16. K&R...Thanks for posting, Purveyor
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:01 PM
Feb 2016

When are the Israelis going to wake up and stop supporting that dangerous war-monger?

Netanyahu & his Likud terrorist Party should be replaced with politicians who want peace, not war.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
38. It would be much easier to convince
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:31 AM
Feb 2016

them of that if terrorist hamas weren't still sending rockets over from gaza and people weren't getting stabbed almost daily in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and they didn't have to worry about the tunnels hamas was building daily using the Palestinian aid that is supposed to be used for food, shelter, hospitals and food.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
20. Bibi sure thinks he has a lot to say about American politics
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:49 PM
Feb 2016

and leadership. Undercutting Obama by addressing the Republicans on his own; letting everyone know what he will be requiring of us.

Now he's holding out for his preferred President, whomever that may be?

Maybe next he can hold his breath and stamp his feet until we get back to him.


 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
26. Obama should send Netanyahu a nice letter on heavy card stock that says "Your proposal is accepted."
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:08 PM
Feb 2016

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
28. A simple thank you for all the aid would be nice
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:52 PM
Feb 2016

When has Obama refused to send aid to Israel? This guy bibi is a piece of work.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
35. Must not be a very pressing concern, then!
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 09:47 AM
Feb 2016

Netanyahu, shorter response: "Eh. It can wait."
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
41. Sure, When Bernie Is President he will help you....
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 02:22 AM
Feb 2016

Only after you give the Palestine's their own state you war criminal scumbag.

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