Thu May 31, 2012, 03:27 PM
onehandle (35,378 posts)
The end of the Milky Way galaxy as we know it
Source: CNN
(CNN) - Our Milky Way galaxy is an anomaly in more ways than one. And now, NASA scientists say they know exactly when it will come to an end. In a universe that is forever spreading apart, the Milky Way has been moving closer to celestial neighbor the Andromeda galaxy. But whether we are in for intergalactic Armageddon or an extraterrestrial fender bender has been a mystery -- until now. "Very interestingly, we find that Andromeda galaxy does appear to be coming straight at us," said Roeland van der Marel, an astronomer at the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore. He was scheduled to speak at a NASA press conference Thursday. The discovery was made thanks to images taken over the 22-year lifespan of the Hubble Space Telescope. But the quest to determine the Milky Way galaxy's expiration date has been undertaken by astronomers for more than 100 years. Now, for the first time, NASA scientists say they know "with certainty" when our beloved galaxy will cease to exist as we know it, what it will look like and how it will happen. New data collected by the Hubble Space Telescope proves, NASA says, that in 4 billion years the Milky Way and Andromeda will collide or pass each other by so closely that the gravitational force each exerts on the other will cause them to slow down to the point of merging. The merger will be completed 6 billion years from now. Read more: http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/science_tech/the-end-of-the-milky-way-galaxy-as-we-know-it
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| onehandle | May 2012 | OP | |
| jberryhill | May 2012 | #1 | |
| may3rd | May 2012 | #32 | |
| freshwest | May 2012 | #34 | |
| valerief | May 2012 | #41 | |
| Nuclear Unicorn | May 2012 | #2 | |
| Ian David | May 2012 | #3 | |
| onehandle | May 2012 | #9 | |
| Blue_Tires | May 2012 | #12 | |
| Iliyah | May 2012 | #4 | |
| malthaussen | May 2012 | #5 | |
| sinkingfeeling | May 2012 | #6 | |
| kenfrequed | May 2012 | #7 | |
| Lasher | May 2012 | #14 | |
| jeff47 | May 2012 | #17 | |
| FiveGoodMen | May 2012 | #42 | |
| jeff47 | May 2012 | #48 | |
| kenfrequed | May 2012 | #30 | |
| jeff47 | May 2012 | #49 | |
| jeff47 | May 2012 | #15 | |
| randome | May 2012 | #8 | |
| LynneSin | May 2012 | #10 | |
| wial | May 2012 | #11 | |
| nahant | May 2012 | #13 | |
| MinneapolisMatt | May 2012 | #16 | |
| jeff47 | May 2012 | #18 | |
| TalkingDog | May 2012 | #26 | |
| awoke_in_2003 | May 2012 | #43 | |
| bupkus | May 2012 | #28 | |
| cynatnite | May 2012 | #19 | |
| qb | May 2012 | #20 | |
| Gore1FL | May 2012 | #21 | |
| bupkus | May 2012 | #29 | |
| kenfrequed | May 2012 | #31 | |
| Gore1FL | May 2012 | #35 | |
| Uncle Joe | May 2012 | #23 | |
| Fearless | Jun 2012 | #56 | |
| Arugula Latte | May 2012 | #47 | |
| dixiegrrrrl | May 2012 | #52 | |
| bulloney | May 2012 | #22 | |
| SWTORFanatic | May 2012 | #24 | |
| Odin2005 | May 2012 | #44 | |
| dbackjon | May 2012 | #25 | |
| bupkus | May 2012 | #27 | |
| may3rd | May 2012 | #33 | |
| ZombieHorde | May 2012 | #36 | |
| joshcryer | May 2012 | #37 | |
| Poll_Blind | May 2012 | #38 | |
| grantcart | May 2012 | #39 | |
| greiner3 | May 2012 | #40 | |
| Odin2005 | May 2012 | #45 | |
| BanTheGOP | May 2012 | #46 | |
| Starboard Tack | May 2012 | #50 | |
| jmondine | May 2012 | #51 | |
| Rosa Luxemburg | Jun 2012 | #53 | |
| Maven | Jun 2012 | #54 | |
| FiveGoodMen | Jun 2012 | #57 | |
| sylvi | Jun 2012 | #58 | |
| pinboy3niner | Jun 2012 | #55 | |
| madokie | Jun 2012 | #59 |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:30 PM
jberryhill (29,856 posts)
1. Film at 11
Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)
Thu May 31, 2012, 05:54 PM
may3rd (593 posts)
32. That's how I see it panning out .
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Lucky for us, the world ends on 12/21/2012
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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)
Thu May 31, 2012, 05:56 PM
freshwest (31,330 posts)
34. Well, I feel much better now.
Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)
Thu May 31, 2012, 07:50 PM
valerief (35,667 posts)
41. Oh, this won't go over well in the South. They're against interspatial unions. nt
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:31 PM
Nuclear Unicorn (6,936 posts)
2. But I was going to have my hair done
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:34 PM
Ian David (68,416 posts)
3. And of course, Obama isn't doing ANYTHING about it.
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Response to Ian David (Reply #3)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:49 PM
onehandle (35,378 posts)
9. The President is so LIHOP on this. nt
Response to Ian David (Reply #3)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:54 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
12. Are you kidding? The tribal elders in Kenya put this plan in place over a century ago...
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:37 PM
Iliyah (2,331 posts)
4. Oh hell does that mean we are
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getting closer to Mittens relatives and their GAWD?
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:37 PM
malthaussen (2,219 posts)
5. Andromeda and Milky are about to have Galactic Sex
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... and the orgasm is gonna be something!
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:38 PM
sinkingfeeling (27,783 posts)
6. Won't matter much. Earth will be a dead planet by then.
Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #6)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:42 PM
kenfrequed (5,277 posts)
7. True
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The sun will have expanded and gone all red by then and the planet will be a cinder.
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Response to kenfrequed (Reply #7)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:57 PM
Lasher (20,466 posts)
14. No, our sun won't become a red giant for another 5 billion years.
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But now that's all pretty much academic. Dammit, I thought we had another 5 billion years to go and now it looks like we only have 4 billion.
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Response to Lasher (Reply #14)
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:02 PM
jeff47 (7,372 posts)
17. It is extremely unlikely that the collision will do anything to Earth.
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Galaxies are mostly empty space. It's very unlikely that anything from Andromeda will hit our solar system.
It's expected we'll have a larger, more elliptical orbit around the center of the new, merged galaxy. But that's not gonna destroy anything. |
Response to jeff47 (Reply #17)
Thu May 31, 2012, 07:55 PM
FiveGoodMen (13,234 posts)
42. Suppose we also end up with a larger, more elliptical orbit around our own sun?
Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #42)
Thu May 31, 2012, 09:10 PM
jeff47 (7,372 posts)
48. That would actually be more helpful
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Last edited Thu May 31, 2012, 09:13 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) As the sun moves through the main sequence, it's gonna get hotter. In about 3 billion years, it's going to be hot enough to boil all the water off the Earth.
So if a billion years later we're farther from the sun, that would actually get us closer to our current climate. But that empty space means it's very unlikely that there will be any effect on Earth's orbit. |
Response to Lasher (Reply #14)
Thu May 31, 2012, 05:19 PM
kenfrequed (5,277 posts)
30. Uhm...
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I didn't say it would stay red. I was describing how it would end the earth.
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Response to kenfrequed (Reply #30)
Thu May 31, 2012, 09:12 PM
jeff47 (7,372 posts)
49. Red giant is when it expands to consume the Earth
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The sun is going to stay about the same size for the next 5 billion years.
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Response to kenfrequed (Reply #7)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:59 PM
jeff47 (7,372 posts)
15. No, that's going to happen in about 5 billion years
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Which puts it a billion years after the collision.
However, all water on Earth is expected to boil away in about 3 billion years as the sun moves through the main sequence. It just won't be a red giant yet. |
Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #6)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:43 PM
randome (12,582 posts)
8. Perhaps
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That doesn't mean humanity will be gone, though.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:52 PM
LynneSin (89,793 posts)
10. OMG better prepare for the Rapture now
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:52 PM
wial (426 posts)
11. Oh CNN.
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The Milky Way is NOT an anomaly. It's a perfectly normal galaxy, one of billions that are similar. And galaxies collide all the time.
We live at an anomalously early point in the history of the universe, to be sure, but that's got nothing to do with the particular galaxy we're in, rather some other factor about the eventual role of intelligences in universes we have yet to surmise. Or maybe pure random chance although that's less likely. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 03:54 PM
nahant (74 posts)
13. Collisionj??
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I can't wait to watch this happen ☺ ☺ ☺
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:01 PM
MinneapolisMatt (1,458 posts)
16. I'm sure North Carolina will make this illegal.
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n/t
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Response to MinneapolisMatt (Reply #16)
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:51 PM
TalkingDog (7,618 posts)
26. This has been a bad, embarassing month to be from NC (I should know)
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On the up side, we did run the Klan meeting, scheduled in our area, to out of state.
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Response to TalkingDog (Reply #26)
Thu May 31, 2012, 08:35 PM
awoke_in_2003 (18,490 posts)
43. another up side...
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you guys have the barrier islands. I try to get to Atlantic Beach every couple years.
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Response to MinneapolisMatt (Reply #16)
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:04 PM
cynatnite (27,122 posts)
19. In fundie time, that's 6000 years from now. n/t
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:07 PM
qb (5,924 posts)
20. Maybe I'm simple-minded, but if everything's moving away from the Big Bang, how do galaxies collide?
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Response to qb (Reply #20)
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:16 PM
Gore1FL (11,664 posts)
21. The close clusters of galaxies still are affected by gravitational attraction to one another.
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Space itself is expanding, but close galaxies are traveling through it towards one another due to that attraction at a rate faster than the expansion of the space it is traveling through.
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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #21)
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Response to bupkus (Reply #29)
Thu May 31, 2012, 05:21 PM
kenfrequed (5,277 posts)
31. Hmmm...
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I sort of imagined it as droplets of mist on the skin of an expanding balloon... but that isn't quite right either.
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Response to bupkus (Reply #29)
Thu May 31, 2012, 06:01 PM
Gore1FL (11,664 posts)
35. You are correct.
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I should have used acceleration instead of rate.
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Response to qb (Reply #20)
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:32 PM
Uncle Joe (24,997 posts)
23. I was wondering about that as well?
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Which galaxy is farther away or younger from the origins of the Big Bang and why is the other catching up?
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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #23)
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 12:10 PM
Fearless (12,391 posts)
56. Here's a good article on the collision...
Response to qb (Reply #20)
Thu May 31, 2012, 09:02 PM
Arugula Latte (40,069 posts)
47. Well, when a mommy galaxy and a daddy galaxy love each other very much ...
Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #47)
Thu May 31, 2012, 11:54 PM
dixiegrrrrl (30,743 posts)
52. Perfect!!!!!
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:20 PM
bulloney (3,147 posts)
22. If this makes the news tonight, everyone willl clean out the bread and milk at their local stores.
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:41 PM
SWTORFanatic (385 posts)
24. I hope after cryogenic freezing I get to see Mildromeda!
Response to SWTORFanatic (Reply #24)
Thu May 31, 2012, 08:37 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
44. Milkomeda!
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 04:48 PM
dbackjon (3,493 posts)
25. And I feel fine!
Response to onehandle (Original post)
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 05:55 PM
may3rd (593 posts)
33. what a shame....Proof only the good die young
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 06:05 PM
ZombieHorde (23,842 posts)
36. Woot! Let the looting begin! nt
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 06:49 PM
joshcryer (39,729 posts)
37. The entire Virgo Supercluster is moving toward the Great Attractor.
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Last edited Thu May 31, 2012, 06:52 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) 100 billion years from now we'll have a super galaxy (trillions of stars).
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 06:53 PM
Poll_Blind (23,173 posts)
38. WAIT! WAIT! (tilts head) Are we insured for that kind of collision?
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What're the monthly premiums on that shit?
PB |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 06:59 PM
grantcart (38,730 posts)
39. Meh I announced this on DU Feb 2010 I thought everyone already had their bags packed.
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 07:00 PM
greiner3 (3,955 posts)
40. "0. The end of the Milky Way galaxy as we know it;"
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By the title I thought the OP might be a story about Newt's big head exploding or something similar.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 08:38 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
45. Cosmic cleanup on aisle 5!
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 08:57 PM
BanTheGOP (1,027 posts)
46. If the GOP wins this election, no more humanity. If Obama wins, we will still be around
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It is that simple. IF the GOP wins, we destroy ourselves through war, famine, and an impossible to bridge gulf between the Romneyites and the vast majority of humanity. If Obama wins, the much-needed legislation will ensure that we survive as a species, and our progressive, collectivist nature will allow our intelligence to survive in a post-galactic environment.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 09:50 PM
Starboard Tack (7,944 posts)
50. What does Hershey have to say about all this?
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Thu May 31, 2012, 09:56 PM
jmondine (1,467 posts)
51. I'm still betting that Andromeda will swerve first.
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 12:15 AM
Rosa Luxemburg (21,986 posts)
53. I won't be around in 4 billion years
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so that's OK
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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #53)
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 01:38 AM
Maven (7,760 posts)
54. But what about your great X 10^23 graandchildren?
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Response to Maven (Reply #54)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 08:12 PM
FiveGoodMen (13,234 posts)
57. Think how much life has changed in the last half a billion years
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If we have living descendants 4 billion years from now, we'd never recognize them.
More likely, we'll be long gone before that. |
Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #57)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:16 PM
sylvi (813 posts)
58. Yeah, but I'll bet there'll still be cockroaches scurrying around
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Nasty little buggers.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 01:45 AM
pinboy3niner (27,473 posts)
55. I blame Canada
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:18 PM
madokie (36,544 posts)


