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Thu May 31, 2012, 02:23 PM

John Edwards Not Guilty On One Count, Mistrial On 5 Counts

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John Edwards Not Guilty On One Count, Mistrial On 5 Counts

Ryan J. Reilly May 31, 2012, 4:29 PM

Former Democratic presidential candidiate John Edwards was found not guilty on one count in his campaign finance trial on Thursday, while a mistrial was declared on five other counts against the former Democratic presidential candidate.

The Edwards trial, which spanned over a month, centered on the question of when Edwards knew about payments that wealthy donors gave to his mistress, Rielle Hunter, and whether those payments could be considered campaign donations that should have been reported to the Federal Election Commission.

Edwards was charged in June 2011 on six counts one count of conspiracy to violate federal campaign finance laws, four counts of accepting illegal campaign contributions and one count of concealing those illegal donations from the FEC.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE84T1KA20120531?irpc=932

Edwards jury reaches verdict on only 1 of 6 counts

GREENSBORO, NORTH CAROLINA | Thu May 31, 2012 3:04pm EDT

GREENSBORO, North Carolina (Reuters) - The jury deliberating in the criminal trial of former U.S. Senator John Edwards has reached a unanimous verdict on only one of the six counts against the North Carolina politician, the jury foreman said on Thursday.

U.S. District Judge Catherine Eagles said she would decide within minutes whether to order the jury to continue deliberating on the remaining counts. The two-time Democratic presidential candidate faces federal campaign finance charges stemming from his 2008 presidential bid.

(Reporting Colleen Jenkins; Editing by Daniel Trotta)


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE84T1KA20120531?irpc=932



@DavidShuster: Regardless of Edwards outcome (or Clemens) -- DOJ has yet to charge a single wall street banker for fraud over econ collapse. #DOJpriorities

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Hissyspit May 2012 OP
alfredo May 2012 #1
Woody Woodpecker May 2012 #2
radhika May 2012 #6
yellowcanine May 2012 #11
hlthe2b May 2012 #3
yellowcanine May 2012 #7
ChiciB1 May 2012 #26
freshwest May 2012 #39
Hissyspit May 2012 #14
Ian David May 2012 #4
MinneapolisMatt May 2012 #5
Wind Dancer May 2012 #10
lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #13
mahatmakanejeeves May 2012 #25
truebrit71 May 2012 #8
elleng May 2012 #9
DURHAM D May 2012 #12
DURHAM D May 2012 #15
elleng May 2012 #16
maddezmom May 2012 #17
elleng May 2012 #21
hamsterjill May 2012 #35
DURHAM D May 2012 #18
elleng May 2012 #23
DURHAM D May 2012 #27
Renew Deal May 2012 #34
DURHAM D May 2012 #36
Bolo Boffin May 2012 #19
itsrobert May 2012 #22
Bolo Boffin May 2012 #28
maddezmom May 2012 #24
Bolo Boffin May 2012 #29
librechik May 2012 #20
Renew Deal May 2012 #30
DURHAM D May 2012 #31
sinkingfeeling May 2012 #32
cindyperry2010 May 2012 #33
EFerrari May 2012 #38
freshwest May 2012 #40
cindyperry2010 May 2012 #44
freshwest May 2012 #46
cindyperry2010 May 2012 #48
obamanut2012 May 2012 #37
yellowcanine May 2012 #41
penndragon69 May 2012 #42
Hissyspit May 2012 #43
JDPriestly May 2012 #45
2Design May 2012 #47
OmahaBlueDog May 2012 #49
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:25 PM

1. It's about time.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:26 PM

2. Predictions here..

 

Not guilty of all charges.

Edwards moves on with his life.

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Response to Woody Woodpecker (Reply #2)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:30 PM

6. Not guilty, and Edwards and flirty alternate juror party hearty all weekend.....n/t

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Response to Woody Woodpecker (Reply #2)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:36 PM

11. I am guessing they might find him guilty on one charge.

Which will be immediately appealed and likely get overturned in about 3 years and several million dollars later.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:27 PM

3. I hope he is fully acquitted. Not that he's not a total creep and cretin, he is..

but this is a political witch-hunt. When the FEC and DOJ don't even agree on the illegality, something is damned wrong.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #3)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:32 PM

7. If being a jerk were a criminal offense the prisons would be even more overcrowded.

Just with the politicians alone.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #7)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:08 PM

26. Couldn't Agree More!!

What he did was wrong, but it boggles my mind how much hate that has been spewed when so many others have done far worse!

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Response to ChiciB1 (Reply #26)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:41 PM

39. +1

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #3)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:45 PM

14. GOP prosecutor in North Carolina. You are correct.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:27 PM

4. Jury finds the defendant, "Handsome." n/t

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Response to Ian David (Reply #4)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:29 PM

5. LMFAO!

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Response to Ian David (Reply #4)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:36 PM

10. Good one!

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Response to Ian David (Reply #4)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:40 PM

13. "Spongeworthy" n/t

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Response to Ian David (Reply #4)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:07 PM

25. Good one. Thanks.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:34 PM

8. Place your bets, place your bets...

They waited this long, they were either REALLY diligent, or there were one or two hold-outs. Methinks that Johnnie Boy is going down for the count. And that is a tragedy. Not because it was selective (some might say vindictive) prosecution of a man that has so totally destroyed his reputation for all eternity, but because his motherless children (except for the bastard of course) will have now lost their mother AND their father in a very public manner...

And THAT should be John Edward's biggest shame...

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:36 PM

9. The jury instructions, which explain 'rules,' law, charges, etc.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:37 PM

12. The local news is interviewing the former head of the FBI for NC.

He is working overtime to make the case that it was not politically motivated.

smarmy jerk

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:50 PM

15. Ok - they have reached a verdict on Count #3 only.

The judge sent them back to discuss the other 5 counts.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:52 PM

16. BIZARRE! ONLY received verdict on

Count 3, unanimous, accepted and received, verdict not announced,
and jury told to leave courtroom, and may be going back to jury room to deliberate.

More later???

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Response to elleng (Reply #16)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:53 PM

17. watching CNN now and agree with Toobin

this is a mess.

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #17)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:59 PM

21. Watching msnbc; no Toobin,

and Pete Williams can't explain!

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #17)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:23 PM

35. This is a mess!

There will be plenty of grounds for appeal if the verdict or verdicts (if the jury ever concludes on the remaining 5)go against Edwards.

Personally, I think he's detestable, but I don't see it benefitting society in any way by having him in jail.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:53 PM

18. Edwards attorney has asked the Judge to accept

and announce the verdict on Count 3 and a mistrial on the other 5 counts. Judge has called a 5 minute recess. Prosecution has asked that they continue deliberating.


Edit: Count 3 is "illegal campaign contributions"

2nd Edit: Count 3 is a 2008 event for just $200,000.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #18)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:01 PM

23. Where'd you hear these details?

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Response to elleng (Reply #23)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:10 PM

27. Local news in NC.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #18)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:23 PM

34. Does that mean that Edwards people think their case is strong?

And a mistrial means that they can retry the case right?

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #34)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:25 PM

36. No indication of what the Edwards team thinks.

If the jury hangs on the other 5 counts I doubt the prosecution will try again.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:54 PM

19. Oh, for fuck's sake.

They're hung on all but one count, Count 3, which is unknown. Judge has sent them back for more deliberation.

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Response to Bolo Boffin (Reply #19)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:59 PM

22. Guilty?

What is your source?

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #22)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:11 PM

28. I saw it on Twitter.

But I'm not seeing the verdict anywhere else and my feed is moving really quickly. So the likelihood that Twitter is crazy is what? 98%?

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Response to Bolo Boffin (Reply #19)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:01 PM

24. no even knows if it's guilty on Count 3 yet

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Response to maddezmom (Reply #24)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:11 PM

29. Yes, I believe I'm crazy on that count.

Oh, well.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 02:58 PM

20. False Alarm--Jurors sent back to sequestration after returning only 1 verdict

not six.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:13 PM

30. Does anyone know anything about Count 3?

Was the case strong or weak on that count? Considering they have no verdict on the others, I think it could be not-guilty. Or maybe it's a guilty verdict that the jurors thought would get them out the door.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #30)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:18 PM

31. See post 18 above.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:19 PM

32. CNN.com 'blog' reporting that judge has issued an 'Allen charge' to

the jury.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/31/verdict-reached-in-john-edwards-trial/?hpt=hp_t1

The judge in former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards' federal corruption trial has ordered jurors to continue deliberations after they announced they had reached a verdict on only one of six counts.

The judge has issued an "Allen charge," which is essentially a request from the court for the jury to go back into deliberations and try again to reach a unanimous verdict on all counts.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:21 PM

33. That looks like

an utter mess of a trial he is a sleaze ball but it looks like a mess

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Response to cindyperry2010 (Reply #33)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:38 PM

38. John Edwards is on trial but Donald Rumsfeld was on Charlie Rose last night

talking about citizen participation in this great country.



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Response to EFerrari (Reply #38)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:43 PM

40. And that criminal has yet to face any consequences from the lapdog media.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #40)

Thu May 31, 2012, 04:12 PM

44. i know where is the sense of

karma in that one?

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Response to cindyperry2010 (Reply #44)

Thu May 31, 2012, 04:21 PM

46. Karma may be telling us to look inside ourselves and see what wonderful things Rummy did for us.

Like using his position with Nixon to abuse the system and continuing to get the masses to agree to whatever was done ever since. Then to teach us just how bad it can get if we refuse to accept that what he's done is part of all of us, a part that we don't want to admit.

I have difficulty with the way some people (not you or others here) apply their meanings to the laws of karma. Some sound like the desert religion and their view of punishment, but I'm guessing that one is what one is. That existence is its own reward or punishment.

I'm sure Rummy, Darth and Shrub believe they have done the right thing when they did things that caused the death of so many people. That's what's so disturbing, to be on the other side of the equation they made.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #46)

Thu May 31, 2012, 04:38 PM

48. yeah icam with what you are saying

the skewed thinking that can make that mess okay in their own heads and hearts is pure evil

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:37 PM

37. Accept Count three and declare a mistrial

I'm betting that'll happen... nine days of deliberations. Count Three is probably not guilty as per local NC news.

Edwards is a sleazeball, but this is a witch hunt. I don't see, say Christine O'Donnell up on charges.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:45 PM

41. If the one count is not guilty, Edwards will walk. No way will they retry him on the remaining

counts. This is what happens when you have what amounts to a political prosecution. One would think we would have learned that by now.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 03:50 PM

42. Unanimous verdict:

BAD HAIR !

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 04:11 PM

43. Another note to the judge

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 04:14 PM

45. Meanwhile, the whole world is burning up.

CO2 levels way beyond acceptable.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014132620

Edwards' accepting money from a friend to hide from his dying wife the fact that he cheated on her is a serious matter requiring our government to spend millions trying the bad boy, but rendering our planet uninhabitable?

Who cares? No crime there.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 04:22 PM

47. Good - never should have come to trial - witch hunt against a democrat

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 04:44 PM

49. Breaking: Yahoo: has posted a link to an ABC video saying that JE found "Not Guilty" 1 count

http://www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AtfXDGcnNe5yRdaTGW6bTJubvZx4/SIG=12smqm1eg/EXP=1338583299/**http%3A//news.yahoo.com/video/abcplus-22309221/abc-news-live-22309266.html


Video - no text (sorry)

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 05:01 PM

50. A lot of wasted taxpayer dollars over what basically amounts to being tried for adultery.

The Feds thought they could play to the emotions of the jury because the vast majority of people think Edward's actions were those of a scumbag. So they stretched the law to cover the charges, because there was no crime committed in this case, just some ambitious Fed attorneys bound and determined to "make their bones" by putting an high profile defendant in jail.

A total waste of time and taxpayer money.

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