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TexasTowelie

(112,063 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 02:26 PM Nov 2015

Watch: Earthquake hits Oklahoma, felt in Texas

Source: Austin American-Statesman

The magnitude-4.7 earthquake that rattled the northern town of Medford, Oklahoma early this morning could be felt as far Texas, the Weather Channel reported. Originally registered at magnitude-4.5, the quake was upgraded to a 4.7 a few hours after, making it the state’s strongest earthquake of 2015. Another 4.7 shook the state just 11 days earlier, during a month in which the state has seen a record number of magnitude-4 or higher earthquakes.

Several people reported feeling tremors in Lovelady, Texas — more than 650 miles away. Currently no damages or injuries have been reported.

The earthquake follows a power outage affecting more than 70,000 after a storm hit the area with ice and freezing rain.

Read more: http://weather.blog.statesman.com/2015/11/30/watch-earthquake-hits-oklahoma-felt-in-texas/



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Watch: Earthquake hits Oklahoma, felt in Texas (Original Post) TexasTowelie Nov 2015 OP
Isn't fracking wonderful. Everyone in our area gets to feel like they are in California. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #1
How's that Fracking working out for Ya? ruffburr Nov 2015 #2
Problem is New Mexico is a huge fracking state but no earthquakes yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #6
To call NM a huge fracking state is a gross overstatement Tempest Nov 2015 #9
Thank you for the correction yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #19
Thanks for correcting him. Kingofalldems Nov 2015 #24
I really loved it when an earthquake hit California... longship Nov 2015 #8
However Tempest Nov 2015 #10
Again, correlation does not mean causation. longship Nov 2015 #11
Geologists and scientists say there's a direct relationship. Including OK's own Geological Survey Tempest Nov 2015 #13
I did not know that. longship Nov 2015 #14
How one US state went from two quakes a year to 585 progree Nov 2015 #22
Entertaining how your facts changed his premise. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #16
He could have saved himself the embarrassment Tempest Nov 2015 #18
nice rant, born and raised in CA. never been impacted by an earthquake in my 67 years of living here olddad56 Nov 2015 #23
You would have been impacted if you lived in the Bay area Tempest Nov 2015 #25
Damn, I know exactly where Lovelady is. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2015 #3
Oh yeah, blame it on the cats-- TexasTowelie Nov 2015 #5
I've lived in Wichita KS for thirty years, Stevepol Nov 2015 #20
I once felt one in Memphis while I was sitting on the floor. Laffy Kat Nov 2015 #27
I felt that one last night/this morning. Behind the Aegis Nov 2015 #4
Get rid of those frackin' Cylon companies!!! cascadiance Nov 2015 #7
Worst case senario Runningdawg Nov 2015 #12
Feb 2015 story about fracking and earthquakes in Medford OK. valerief Nov 2015 #15
I'm east of there madokie Nov 2015 #17
There are fault lines in Oklahoma Marrah_G Nov 2015 #21
We have been feeling them MuseRider Nov 2015 #26
Frack on ! lunasun Dec 2015 #28
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
6. Problem is New Mexico is a huge fracking state but no earthquakes
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 02:50 PM
Nov 2015

A study needs to be done in Oklahoma to find out for sure what is going on.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
9. To call NM a huge fracking state is a gross overstatement
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:47 PM
Nov 2015

Fracking in NM is limited to two small areas of the state, the northwest and southeast corners.

Fracking in Oklahoma is statewide.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. I really loved it when an earthquake hit California...
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 03:08 PM
Nov 2015

...and a DUer responded, "Is there fracking there?"

Dumb... DE Dumb-Dumb.

Whether or not there is fracking, there are earthquakes in CA every fscking day, no matter where you are in CA.

Not every earthquake on the planet is from fucking fracking. There are many places there is fracking which have no earthquakes. And CA has many hundreds of earthquakes every year, whether or not there is fracking.

Now, am I saying we should frack? Nope! I think we should not. However, this earthquake == fracking stuff has got to stop here. Correlation does not mean causation and an earthquake does not mean fracking.

Would I recommend fracking in an earthquake zone? I would not recommend fracking anywhere. And certainly not because of earthquakes. Or ground water.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Again, correlation does not mean causation.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 04:05 PM
Nov 2015

What do the geologists say?

And what does practically non-existent mean?

Anecdotal evidence is not science. And earthquake causation is likely multi-factorial. If one is getting earthquakes with fracking one likely would be getting them without fracking. There are many places with fracking which do not have earthquakes. And there are lots of places with earthquakes without fracking. Therefore, fracking cannot be the sole cause of earthquakes.

**The question is Does fracking in an earthquake zone increase the number of earthquakes? That is a question for geologists, not some random person on a Inet forum.

So it is safe to say that it is likely that these earthquakes are not solely from fracking. My ** question is the one that needs to be answered by a qualified expert in the field.

longship

(40,416 posts)
14. I did not know that.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 05:00 PM
Nov 2015

But I also suspect that there would only be tremblers if there was an active fault in the fracking region.

BTW, I think fracking is horrible. But the reason to oppose them goes far beyond the tremblers.

progree

(10,901 posts)
22. How one US state went from two quakes a year to 585
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:05 PM
Nov 2015
How one US state went from two quakes a year to 585

The central US state of Oklahoma has gone from registering two earthquakes a year to nearly two a day and scientists point to a controversial culprit: wastewater injection wells used in fracking.

Located in the middle of the country, far from any major fault lines, Oklahoma experienced 585 earthquakes of a magnitude of 3.0 or greater in 2014. That's more than three times as many as the 180 which hit California last year.

As of last month, Oklahoma has already experienced more than 600 quakes strong enough to rattle windows and rock cars. The biggest was a 4.5-magnitude quake that hit the small town of Crescent.

.... From 1975 to 2008, the state experienced anywhere from zero to three earthquakes a year which registered at 3.0 or higher. Then the numbers jumped: there were 20 in 2009, 35 in 2010, 64 in 2011, 35 in 2012, 109 in 2013 and 585 in 2014.

More: http://news.yahoo.com/one-us-state-went-two-quakes-585-054259418.html


The source of this article is Agence France-Presse (AFP). Yahoo is just the news aggregator which posts news from multiple sources, e.g. similarly news.google.com

Even the Republican Oklahoma governor has accepted the link between fracking (particularly the injection of waste water into the ground) and earthquakes.

Gov. Mary Fallin acknowledges “direct correlation” between earthquakes and disposal wells
http://kfor.com/2015/08/04/gov-mary-fallin-acknowledges-direct-correlation-between-earthquakes-and-disposal-wells/


 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. Entertaining how your facts changed his premise.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 05:31 PM
Nov 2015

Entertaining how your facts changed his premise.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
23. nice rant, born and raised in CA. never been impacted by an earthquake in my 67 years of living here
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:31 PM
Nov 2015

I have felt a couple, and they have a had a few big ones in my lifetime, but none that impacted me. Had they ever had one in Oklahoma or the Dakotas prior to fracking? Was in a huge one in Montana in 1962 while on vacation. Floods are a bigger concern for me, obviously not during the drought.

Tempest

(14,591 posts)
25. You would have been impacted if you lived in the Bay area
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:04 PM
Nov 2015

The 1989 quake pretty much shut down major travel routes in the Bay area for weeks.

"Had they ever had one in Oklahoma or the Dakotas prior to fracking? "

Oklahoma averaged about one a year before fracking. Now it's 500+ a year after fracking.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
3. Damn, I know exactly where Lovelady is.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 02:35 PM
Nov 2015

I am north of there but didn't feel anything. But I was probably either asleep or feeding cats.

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
20. I've lived in Wichita KS for thirty years,
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 07:14 PM
Nov 2015

and I never felt an earthquake until the last two years. I've felt 4 now, the last two 4.7 M.

Laffy Kat

(16,376 posts)
27. I once felt one in Memphis while I was sitting on the floor.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:22 PM
Nov 2015

Can't remember the magnitude but it was an eye-opener. Memphis sits on the New Madrid fault line... "Any day" they say. Haven't lived there in over 30 years, though.

Behind the Aegis

(53,936 posts)
4. I felt that one last night/this morning.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 02:41 PM
Nov 2015

I was actually reading DU and my chair rocked and vape pen on my desk almost fell over.

Runningdawg

(4,514 posts)
12. Worst case senario
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 04:51 PM
Nov 2015

a big one hits, Cushing falls into a sink hole and every well for 100 miles around blows. Remember those pictures of Iraq during GWI and the oil wells burning? A drop in the bucket. Those wells were in the desert, the wells in question here are in populated areas. Cushing is also within 100 miles of OKs 2 largest cities, the 2 largest state universities AND Keystone dam. This is a recipe for unprecedented disaster in the US. The fires from the wells will pollute the air, the oil on the ground will pollute the water, kill the crops and livestock, and if the dam goes, all bets are off, it will make Katrina and Sandy look like a walk in the park.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
15. Feb 2015 story about fracking and earthquakes in Medford OK.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 05:10 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.npr.org/2015/02/16/386693615/with-quakes-spiking-oil-industry-is-under-the-microscope-in-oklahoma

Holland says that Oklahoma used to have, on average, one or two perceptible earthquakes a year. Now the state is averaging two or three a day. There were more magnitude 3 or greater tremors here last year than anywhere else in the continental United States, and the unprecedented spike in earthquakes has intensified.

Holland suspects that modern oil production techniques are triggering the jump in quakes. A few years back, companies figured out how to drill sideways through layers of shale, then break, or frack, the rock, releasing a torrent of oil.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
17. I'm east of there
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 06:02 PM
Nov 2015

about 175 maybe 200 miles or so and I never felt a thing. Why o why do I miss out on all the fun.

Just in case

A repeat of this will not be good: http://www.new-madrid.mo.us/index.aspx?NID=102

MuseRider

(34,103 posts)
26. We have been feeling them
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 11:08 PM
Nov 2015

all the way up into NE Kansas. One shook pretty good I hear, I slept through it.

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