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(46,301 posts)
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 09:00 PM Nov 2015

Turing reneges on pill price cut

Source: WBAY, ABC affiliate in Green bay, WI

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — After weeks of criticism from patients, doctors and other drugmakers for hiking a life-saving medicine’s price more than fifty-fold, Turing Pharmaceuticals is reneging on its pledge to cut the $750-per-pill price.

Instead, the small biotech company is reducing what it charges hospitals, by up to 50 percent, for its parasitic infection treatment, Daraprim. Most patients’ copayments will be capped at $10 or less a month. But insurers will be stuck with the bulk of the $750 tab. That drives up future treatment and insurance costs.

Read more: http://wbay.com/2015/11/26/turing-reneges-on-pill-price-cut/



Don't you just want to slap the shit out of that punk?
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Turing reneges on pill price cut (Original Post) Archae Nov 2015 OP
Single payer healthcare. Bernie. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #1
Wouldn't fix this Recursion Nov 2015 #11
Because Tom Delay Pharaoh Nov 2015 #24
Yes, and it neatly illustrates a problem with Medicare for all Recursion Nov 2015 #29
evil Matthew28 Nov 2015 #2
Is it really? FrodosPet Nov 2015 #45
That this behavior is not illegal in our society shows that the system is fundamentally flawed. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #3
+1 2naSalit Nov 2015 #5
+1000 nt abelenkpe Nov 2015 #7
Amen.... daleanime Nov 2015 #14
Yep Cal Carpenter Nov 2015 #36
Yes, I do. I wish someone would grab him off the street, 7962 Nov 2015 #4
I appreciate your sentiments. Hugin Nov 2015 #33
That would be interesting, but I wonder if he'd care. 7962 Nov 2015 #34
It just proves HeiressofBickworth Nov 2015 #6
What are we paying elected representatives and government officials for and appalachiablue Nov 2015 #8
I don't think we pay them as much as Big Pharma pays them. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2015 #9
That's certainly a very serious problem like Big Banks, Big Media, Big Oil, appalachiablue Nov 2015 #10
We should pass a law that requires full disclosure of all campaign funding... Moostache Nov 2015 #16
Absolutely! Until then substantial pay and benefits cuts. appalachiablue Nov 2015 #18
Yes...to slapping the shit out of him. SoapBox Nov 2015 #12
Yes, he is -- HDSam Nov 2015 #15
And there's always the international option TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #20
Piece. Of. Shit. david z Nov 2015 #13
Drug research-and-distribution is a public need which should be Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #17
Amen! FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #22
Insurance companies won't get stuck with the tab dflprincess Nov 2015 #19
Martin Shkreli has a very punchable face. It is smug all the time. What a weasal. LS_Editor Nov 2015 #21
People should be throwing shit at him The Wizard Nov 2015 #23
Wow. I sure didn't see that coming ashling Nov 2015 #25
Only one solution: Imminent domain KansDem Nov 2015 #26
So they failed "The Turing Test" Babel_17 Nov 2015 #27
Omg, I literally just finished watching a movie about that on Amazon Prime. Quackers Nov 2015 #28
It doesn't matter Helen Borg Nov 2015 #30
while their stock continues to tank. nt Javaman Nov 2015 #31
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Nov 2015 #32
It's not just one greedy asshole - TBF Nov 2015 #35
Yeah, the whole system's broken but he's the poster weasel. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2015 #43
Blaming this all on one person is short-sighted - TBF Nov 2015 #46
did anybody believe he would actually do the correct thing? niyad Nov 2015 #37
He's not the only one raising prices - dermatologic drugs too. IcyPeas Nov 2015 #38
Hedge fund owner/managers are kings of the World of Grifters. Divernan Nov 2015 #39
+100%! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #40
He may be a punk but chapdrum Nov 2015 #41
Oh wait... you mean the evil, ugly little shit lied? Raster Nov 2015 #42
"Daraprim will be available at no cost to uninsured income-limited patients" FrodosPet Nov 2015 #44

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
29. Yes, and it neatly illustrates a problem with Medicare for all
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 06:13 AM
Nov 2015

Every single American's health care at that point can be held hostage by Paul Ryan

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
45. Is it really?
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:42 PM
Nov 2015

Why read past the outrageous part to learn the whole story?

Whoever dies with the most offended moments wins!

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2015/11/25/Despite-promise-Turing-pharmaceuticals-opts-to-keep-list-price-of-Daraprim-high/4891448482337/

~ snip ~

Also, the company said some insured patients won't pay any more than $10 per prescription and Daraprim will be available at no cost to uninsured income-limited patients -- a move designed to shift the burden of the drug's cost from patients onto insurance companies and taxpayers.

"By providing affordable access for hospitals and reaffirming our commitment that nearly all patients will receive Daraprim for $10 or less out-of-pocket per prescription," Retzlaff added. "That's what we have done."

~ snip ~


Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
36. Yep
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 01:32 PM
Nov 2015

He's the current poster boy but smacking him down doesn't change a thing. For every one of him that gets publicity, there are a zillion other examples that don't. It's just business as usual.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
4. Yes, I do. I wish someone would grab him off the street,
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 09:18 PM
Nov 2015

and beat the shit out of him. With the millions of dollars he has cost people, i cant believe no one has done it yet.
If I had a lot of money and lived in NYC, I admit right here on DU that I would hire some big dudes to do it.

Hugin

(33,059 posts)
33. I appreciate your sentiments.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 12:11 PM
Nov 2015

However, there are ways to accomplish your point without violence.

His picture should be up on the wall of every establishment in that area. With a hint that he's "rich", encouraging anyone who has a transaction with him to charge a 50 fold markup for anything he desires. Food, Entertainment, Cab fare... All of it. Yes, in my fantasy world it would become very expensive to be him.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
34. That would be interesting, but I wonder if he'd care.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 01:10 PM
Nov 2015

He's made so many millions off of stock manipulation its likely charging him 100.00 for a cup of coffee would just make him laugh. Watch his interviews and see how he acts. Its like he's 15 yrs old he's so rude and disrespectful.
This guy has been a bad guy for YEARS. Look up his history. His former company is suing him for 65M. I've seen his work for a long time. I'm just glad he's finally being shown to the rest of the world.

Still like to see him get his ass beat.....

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
6. It just proves
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015

once a greedy asshole, always a greedy asshole.

It just took him a while to search the scheming, nasty, greedy stone that serves him as a brain to come up with a different plan that still puts piles of money in his pocket at the burdensome expense of others.

"Jerk" doesn't go far enough to describe this one.

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
8. What are we paying elected representatives and government officials for and
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 09:51 PM
Nov 2015

where is the corporate death penalty law?

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
10. That's certainly a very serious problem like Big Banks, Big Media, Big Oil,
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:03 PM
Nov 2015

Big Pharma, Big Ag, legions of lobbyists and stink tanks that are responsible for a reduced, deregulated, ineffective and corrupted Small US Government. This system is killing us and the planet and must change.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
16. We should pass a law that requires full disclosure of all campaign funding...
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:54 PM
Nov 2015

and then make the Senator, Representative, President or Justice wear a uniform exactly like that picture of McConnell.

HDSam

(251 posts)
15. Yes, he is --
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:40 PM
Nov 2015

The only bright spot is there's another company that has decided to manufacture a nearly identical drug for less than $1.00 per pill.

Imprimis Pharmaceuticals is undercutting Shkreli, who I think either forgot or didn't consider his exorbitant price increase might open the door to competitors that can offer nearly identical drugs for far less and still turn a profit. Shkreli is a dumbass.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,148 posts)
20. And there's always the international option
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:06 PM
Nov 2015

You can buy brand name Daraprim, manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline in Australia, for just $2.20 per pill from Canadian pharmacies. You can buy the generic version, also manufactured in Australia, for $1.20 per pill.

Even the $13.50 that was being charged before was a rip off. It makes me wonder if the little shithead paid WAY TOO MUCH for the manufacturing rights and is trying to get his money back by gouging insurance companies.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
17. Drug research-and-distribution is a public need which should be
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:58 PM
Nov 2015

...publicly funded and publicly owned.

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
19. Insurance companies won't get stuck with the tab
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:02 PM
Nov 2015

they'll take the drug off their formularies and not pay for it at all.

Besides the price of drugs, another problem is that insurance companies, not your doctor, decide what drug you can be prescribed.

Several years ago I had a problem with one of my knees. Not a big deal and certainly not life threatening. My internist told me I had a choice, I could take the anti-inflammatory that would help or I could take the one my insurance would cover. If I chose option #2 he said he'd also write the referral to the orthopedic surgeon. So I paid out of pocket for option #1. The only problem with that drug was it brought such immediate relief I had to keep reminding myself to baby the knee until I saw the doc again. No problems with it since.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
26. Only one solution: Imminent domain
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 12:39 AM
Nov 2015
The right of a government to take private property for a public purpose, usually with just compensation of the owner.


Do it now...

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
28. Omg, I literally just finished watching a movie about that on Amazon Prime.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:48 AM
Nov 2015

It was called ex machina.

TBF

(32,013 posts)
46. Blaming this all on one person is short-sighted -
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:43 AM
Nov 2015

although I have no problem putting his face on the poster. Especially if he's posted next to the guillotine.

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
38. He's not the only one raising prices - dermatologic drugs too.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 02:44 PM
Nov 2015

this was just in the news yesterday too:


Between 2009 and 2015, retail prices of brand-name dermatologic drugs rose 401 percent, on average, study authors reported Nov. 25 in JAMA Dermatology.

Even generics have succumbed to price inflation, up 279 percent between 2011 and 2014, based on the drugs surveyed.


http://health.usnews.com/health-news/articles/2015/11/25/retail-prices-of-dermatology-drugs-skyrocket

They are all doing it.... because they can.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
39. Hedge fund owner/managers are kings of the World of Grifters.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 04:03 PM
Nov 2015

Martin Shkreli (born April 1, 1983)[1] is an American hedge fund manager and entrepreneur, specializing in healthcare businesses, and is a co-founder of MSMB Capital Management and the founder of Turing Pharmaceuticals AG.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Shkreli

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
41. He may be a punk but
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 07:06 PM
Nov 2015

he's our punk, by our endless embrace of free markets and deregulation.
He's operating as he sees fit, and not breaking any laws.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
44. "Daraprim will be available at no cost to uninsured income-limited patients"
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:10 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2015/11/25/Despite-promise-Turing-pharmaceuticals-opts-to-keep-list-price-of-Daraprim-high/4891448482337/

But hey let's beat up the rich guy for overcharging other rich guys while actually keeping the medicine available FOR FREE to poor people.
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