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brooklynite

(94,510 posts)
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:07 PM Nov 2015

Sanders camp spars with CBS over debate: report

Source: The Hill

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-Vt.) campaign is fighting CBS News’ decision to change the format of Saturday night’s presidential debate to focus more on foreign policy, according to a report.

A Sanders aide was heard arguing with CBS executives Saturday in an exchange a source classified to Yahoo News as “heated” and “bizarre.”

After the Friday terror attacks in Paris, CBS decided to increase the focus on national security and terrorism in Saturday night’s debate.

Officials with Hillary Clinton and Martin O’Malley, the two other Democratic presidential nominees, did not fight the change, according to the report, but a Sanders strategist opposed the decision.


Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/260179-sanders-camp-spars-with-cbs-over-debate-report



Not what I would call "Presidential"
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Sanders camp spars with CBS over debate: report (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2015 OP
Interesting. msrizzo Nov 2015 #1
I understand. International gives a huge advantage to Hillary, JudyM Nov 2015 #2
Bernie's been in DC since when??? Plucketeer Nov 2015 #9
Are you serious or just being sarcastic? Perseus Nov 2015 #15
Yeah...... Plucketeer Nov 2015 #45
Not all foreign policy per this article--opening plus 20 minutes.... riversedge Nov 2015 #19
Thanks, yeah, turned out to be balanced, nice. Nt JudyM Nov 2015 #44
He spent most of the morning practicing how to pronounce "oligarch" George II Nov 2015 #24
Really? This Isnt A Joke billhicks76 Nov 2015 #37
"a staffer for one of the other campaigns told Yahoo News." Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #3
Good Kalidurga Nov 2015 #4
Right? WTF? AzDar Nov 2015 #11
Seriously. Hissyspit Nov 2015 #35
Uh-huh Plucketeer Nov 2015 #46
Hey Bernie lobodons Nov 2015 #5
yes, bad PR for sure. I doubt bernie sanders actually does not understand this completely nt msongs Nov 2015 #6
CBS could open the debate with letting them say how they'd address Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #20
Hey You billhicks76 Nov 2015 #38
Since this tragedy is a "current event" and ironically occured just ahead of the debate BumRushDaShow Nov 2015 #7
"As The President's Former Secretary Of State I..... Billsmile Nov 2015 #8
While helping my corporate financiers back home. NT Plucketeer Nov 2015 #10
Well, there's no denying that the policies she's supported are a leading cause... AzDar Nov 2015 #12
She sure is. tazkcmo Nov 2015 #48
An anonymous staffer from one of the other campaigns? riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #13
that's not good tishaLA Nov 2015 #14
CNN Owned By Time-Warner Which Gives $$$ To Hillary billhicks76 Nov 2015 #39
Some people say... IDemo Nov 2015 #16
Reported by a staffer for one of the other campaigns shawn703 Nov 2015 #17
God forbid that someone who works for Bernie Sanders Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #18
Anonymous sources: Brooklynite quotes them as absolute truth sometimes jeff47 Nov 2015 #21
Brooklynite isn't quoting anonymous sources, he's quoting "the hill". George II Nov 2015 #23
And all of them are quoting anonymous sources. jeff47 Nov 2015 #25
CNN and MSNBC have also reported on this. George II Nov 2015 #26
From the same anonymous sources. jeff47 Nov 2015 #27
Nope - no one has mentioned "anonymous sources" at all. George II Nov 2015 #29
When they do not name the source, that is an anonymous source. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #31
"an unnamed staffer from another campaign" claims to have heard an unnamed magical thyme Nov 2015 #42
Yawn................... George II Nov 2015 #43
By the way, I just read the story in The Hill (have you?), nowhere does it mention.... George II Nov 2015 #28
Think before you post. jeff47 Nov 2015 #30
They can't think for themselves davidpdx Nov 2015 #49
He wants to be President and yet he can't switch gears on the fly? George II Nov 2015 #22
Exactly. okasha Nov 2015 #33
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #40
Here are Jeff Weaver's comments to CNN on this (Sanders campaign manager) oberliner Nov 2015 #32
Jeff Weaver wasn't on the conference call. George II Nov 2015 #41
TIME: Sanders Campaign: No Problem With Debate Focus Jarqui Nov 2015 #34
On this, the Sanders people have a fair argument bluestateguy Nov 2015 #36
I agree with Sanders camp rockfordfile Nov 2015 #47

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
2. I understand. International gives a huge advantage to Hillary,
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:17 PM
Nov 2015

since she can spout facts and figures and lived and breathed foreign policy as SOS. Bernie would've been coming from behind even if he were prepping for an international debate.

I can certainly see throwing in a few questions that relate to the situation, but not changing the main subject of the debate. Not quite fair, IMO.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
9. Bernie's been in DC since when???
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:38 PM
Nov 2015

Yeah - poor Bernie likely ain't got a CLUE as to what happens outside the beltway.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
15. Are you serious or just being sarcastic?
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:50 PM
Nov 2015

You need to view some of the videos from Sanders on International affairs, he predicted most of the problems we see today, and the resurgence of Al Queida, now with a new name of course.

I believe the reason why he opposes that is because his message is a concern for the internal affairs of the country, and yes he can discuss international affairs, but that is just a way for the media to take the discussion away from what has been the forte of Sanders message in the campaign.

There are too many problems in the US, and yes there are a lot of international problems as well, but most of them were created by Bush, who also created the current bad internal situation.

If we fix our home, we can work later on the international. Sanders will have the right people to work on that, it is not like he would abandon it, but fix problems here first.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
45. Yeah......
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:20 AM
Nov 2015

I don't always use the sarcasm smilie. I like to think DUers are smart enough that I don't have to.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
37. Really? This Isnt A Joke
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:14 PM
Nov 2015

Hillary and the comments of her supporters are repulsive and Iif she is the nominee I hope You find it amusing when our country is still stuck where its at.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. Good
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:22 PM
Nov 2015

they are playing campaign tricks. Must be the smell of desperation in the morning that drives them to it.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
5. Hey Bernie
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:24 PM
Nov 2015

As President you have to deal with Breaking news and events. Travel schedules and itineraries get changed. Deal with it. It would be a serious serious serious mistake for the Dems not to address the Situation in France at the debate tonight.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
20. CBS could open the debate with letting them say how they'd address
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:05 PM
Nov 2015

...the situation in France. But CBS shouldn't change the whole debate because of terrorists. The American people deserve an in-depth debate on the candidates' domestic policies.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
38. Hey You
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:21 PM
Nov 2015

How about starting off such a discussion with Hillary supporting the Iraq War and Bush's foreign policy which lead to this destabilization and ISIS to begin with. ISIS wants a backlash to establish the veracity of their narrative of a war between the West and Islam. Without that they would not be empowered. Our neocon leaders like Bush and Clinton feed into this as they empower and enrich themselves with the exact same narrative. George Tenet just told us that they warned repeatedly about 'spectacular' attacks in the US long before the Aug memo and that Rice, Cheney, Bush etc have all been lying. Why the hell arent the candidates and media discussing this???

BumRushDaShow

(128,896 posts)
7. Since this tragedy is a "current event" and ironically occured just ahead of the debate
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:33 PM
Nov 2015

I think most following these debates anticipated the focus would be adjusted to take advantage - notably because of the mass casualties. I think that given the recent Beirut attack and the Russian jet incident, they might have shifted the questions slightly towards foreign policy, but the fact that at least one American was identified as having been killed and an American band was featured at one of the venues of the attack, then the debate questions almost write themselves. And moreso because of the "Jihadi John" and Abu Nabil targeting that were also announced a few days before the debate.

However I think the candidates should take note that the debate is for 2 hours and I doubt that CBS is going to spend 2 hours on foreign policy. A good chunk of Americans sadly have no idea what the capitals of their own states are let alone would be able to point out Paris on a map. Hell, even the media f's up when it comes to maps.



Billsmile

(404 posts)
8. "As The President's Former Secretary Of State I.....
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:36 PM
Nov 2015

....am, far more than any other candidate on this stage, in the unique position to lead the USA on issues of terror."

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
39. CNN Owned By Time-Warner Which Gives $$$ To Hillary
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:23 PM
Nov 2015

Its obvious they are manipulating the landscape to select Hillary. I hope there is a backlash.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
17. Reported by a staffer for one of the other campaigns
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:54 PM
Nov 2015

Not by the NEWS ORGANIZATION who was supposedly confronted by some nameless "Sanders staffer". Seriously, how gullible would someone have to be to believe this pantload?

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
18. God forbid that someone who works for Bernie Sanders
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:01 PM
Nov 2015

...wants him to have the opportunity to discuss his domestic agenda (sarcasm).

Maybe it's because Sanders' policies are better than Clinton's:
- Sanders: Make public universities free vs. Clinton: vague plan of "debt-free colleges"
- Sanders: Make marijuana legal federally vs. Clinton: the federal gov't should classify marijuana with cocaine

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
21. Anonymous sources: Brooklynite quotes them as absolute truth sometimes
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:15 PM
Nov 2015

and decries them as liars other times.

Can you spot the pattern of when they can be completely trusted, and when they're completely untrustworthy?

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. Brooklynite isn't quoting anonymous sources, he's quoting "the hill".
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:21 PM
Nov 2015

And the same thing was reported a little while ago on MSNBC and CNN.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
25. And all of them are quoting anonymous sources.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:24 PM
Nov 2015

You too used to deride anonymous sources as awful.

Guess what you're going to be reminded of the next time an anonymous source says something about Clinton you don't like?

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. CNN and MSNBC have also reported on this.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:27 PM
Nov 2015

I'm sure you and your guys have cataloged and cross-referenced every post by a Clinton supporter here, but I don't recall deriding anonymous sources.

Don't worry, this story will have credible sources by tomorrow, I'm sure.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
27. From the same anonymous sources.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:29 PM
Nov 2015

You know, a lot of people quoted all sorts of bullshit from anonymous sources about Clinton during Bill's term. Is all of that true now, since lots of media quoted the same sources?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
42. "an unnamed staffer from another campaign" claims to have heard an unnamed
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:21 PM
Nov 2015

staffer from Sanders' campaign in a heated discussion for 5-7 minutes.

Sounds pretty anonymous to me. Also pretty ridiculous.

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. By the way, I just read the story in The Hill (have you?), nowhere does it mention....
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:30 PM
Nov 2015

...."anonymous sources"

I guess you heard that from an anonymous source?

CBS News is about to talk about the change in format - you might want to watch it.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
30. Think before you post.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:32 PM
Nov 2015

Do they name the person who told them a Sanders aide was upset?

No.

That makes it an anonymous source.

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. He wants to be President and yet he can't switch gears on the fly?
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:19 PM
Nov 2015

I suspect the real reason they're whining is because Sanders' "foreign policy" is vapid.

Besides, he already had a whole slew of talking points prepared consisting of "a noun, a verb, and an oligarch".

Response to George II (Reply #22)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
32. Here are Jeff Weaver's comments to CNN on this (Sanders campaign manager)
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:35 PM
Nov 2015

Also on the call, CBS said it wanted to cut the opening statements from 90 seconds to 30 seconds in order to get right to questions about the Paris attacks, which Sanders' campaign argued against, said Jeff Weaver, the Vermont senator's campaign manager.

"They wanted to make some last-minute changes to the debate. We obviously wanted to keep the format to what had been agreed to and I think people on our staff argued vigorously to that and were successful," Weaver told CNN.

"We ended up prevailing," said Weaver, who added that Sanders went over Paris-specific questions Saturday morning.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/14/politics/paris-terror-attacks-bernie-sanders-democratic-debate/index.html

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
34. TIME: Sanders Campaign: No Problem With Debate Focus
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:39 PM
Nov 2015
http://time.com/4113377/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-paris-attacks/?xid=time_socialflow_twitter
But Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs said that the Vermont Senator was looking forward to the debate and noted that “obviously what happened in Paris was going to be a major focus.”

“Were there minor technical issues someone from another camp wanted to blow up?” he said. “Yes, but we worked through them.”

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
36. On this, the Sanders people have a fair argument
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:11 PM
Nov 2015

to change the terms of a debate at the last minute is not right. The candidates prepared for a specific type of debate and that has to be honored.

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
47. I agree with Sanders camp
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:09 AM
Nov 2015

I don't\didn't mind a couple questions. That should be it.

The tragedy in France is still ongoing, and for CBS to use it just for ratings is disgusting.

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