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[bkkyosemite]

1. Holy Moly Resign now!

[Hoppy]

65. Why should they resign? They reflect Republican Fambily Values.

[LibDemAlways]

144. Speaking of Repuke Family values....

It's a little known but absolutely true fact that former Virginia Senator and one time Presidential aspirant George "Macaca" Allen named his only son Forrest, after Nathan Bedford Forrest, early Grand Wizard of the KKK.

So, yes, in certain Republican circles, the KKK is much admired and looked up to as role models.

[L. Coyote]

176. Democratic Value: Don't believe every Internet lie about Republicans.

Last edited Mon Nov 2, 2015, 08:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Wow, are people really so easy to dupe?

Democrats are supposedly better educated, capable of independent reasoning and not just willing to believe anything, right?

What is this (false flag op?) going to do to the credibility of the real membership list when released?

Operation KKK Official Account
:large

We're back. #OpKKK #HoodsOff
OperationKKK [email protected]
Backup Account: @OpHoodsOff

[Abouttime]

182. I believe it's true,

These charges are so serious that they will be forced to resign. I believe many more will be outed including many members of the house, this could throw control of both houses to democrats in jan 2017.

[EL34x4]

186. For Chrissakes...

No politician of any influence is going to join the Ku Klux Klan in 2015.

This isn't 1924, or 1964. The KKK as it exists today is a gauche organization of toothless hillbillies and federal informants who wield no real power in the south except as fodder for sensational documentaries and Hollywood bad guys.

Powerful Republican politicians belong to the best country clubs, golf at the most prestigious courses, eat at the nicest restaurants and hobnob with the elite 1%. They have just as much contempt for the uneducated slack-jawed rednecks who vote for them as they do the minorities who don't and they wouldn't be caught within 100 miles of a card-carrying Klan member, let alone sign up and pay dues.

Anonymous is going to be the only ones hurt by this. They got Punk'd big time.

[Codeine]

196. Good grief.

Some of y'all. . .

[L. Coyote]

200. Anonymous says it is fake.

Anonymous @YourAnonNews - 11:24 AM PST - 2 Nov 2015
Anyone can provide fake information when signing up to a website, reporters should be aware of this.

But you gotta admire how fast a false meme appears on Twitter:

[jeff47]

218. Yeah, not so much.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027310569

It turns out the list is from people who were signed up for KKK mailing lists.

Someone wants to screw with you, so they put your email in the form on a KKK web site. Ta-da! You're now a member of the KKK.

[CreekDog]

228. What you believe is not important, what is true or false is important

And this story has now been disavowed by the purported authors of it.

[MynameisBlarney]

96. They nshould be arrested

For being anti-American terrorists that infiltrated our govt.

[Gore1FL]

181. They were elected.

Being an unamerican asshole isn't against the law. It raises questions about the character of their supporters, though.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

9. She's a liberal and a Catholic.

Which leads me to assume this is bullshit.

[Fred Sanders]

13. Why do those two things mean exclusion from however you define as "membership"?

[ForgoTheConsequence]

27. Because the Klan has traditionally targeted Catholics.

It's a white protestant organization. Also, on that branch of the Klan's website they blame liberals for everything and have a painting that involves a caricature of an Irish Catholic as an invading outsider.

[Person 2713]

36. Some klan are big on the anti gay thing much like her religion

http://www.ikkkkk.org/Home_Page.php

[ForgoTheConsequence]

44. She supports gay marriage and diversity.

Sound like a regular David Duke.....


What a joke.

[CreekDog]

50. posting conspiracy theories, like that Democratic, liberal mayors are secretly KKK

is a violation of the Terms of Service.

here's a family portrait of the mayor that you're falsely accusing:

[pnwmom]

112. There are NO black members of KKK in Chicago or anywhere else.

You should edit or remove your post.

[Person 2713]

131. Some group using kkk vilgilante justice talking points against drug gangs but I can't find anythin

online to back up they used kkk and so I did delete.

[AngryAmish]

152. ..

[Person 2713]

125. I did not list her name or list her religion . Other posters did that

I stand by my statement that the Catholic religion is anti gay rights,which many kkk groups now focus on also. People of many colors are anti gay rights. Since my post earlier a video promoting diversity was posted and
this mayor has since come out to deny any affiliation with any kkk group

[ForgoTheConsequence]

129. By this logic Joe Biden could be in the Klan too.

Think about the shit you're saying. Jesus.

[Person 2713]

133. IMO Catholics need to think about what their church is officially saying Koresh

http://www.americancatholic.org/News/Homosexuality/

[totodeinhere]

147. So we can only mention Republicans who are on the list?

I say get the entire list out there and go from there. Either it's BS or it's not but lets discuss it and let the chips fall where they may.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

261. the list is a farce.

What about this is so difficult for you? If your name showed up on a list of some heinous organization I'm sure you wouldn't be letting the chips fall where they may. This isn't justice, it's insanity.

[TNNurse]

198. There is no way in Hell that this woman is in the Klan.

I do not live in Knoxville but in a neighboring county. This is false.

[7962]

246. Most Klan are also against ISIS, so I guess they are like our President

Man, it doesnt take much to fool some folks

[CreekDog]

53. because Fred, there is no evidence, notice there's no link, no source of information?

where is the evidence Fred?

do you believe everything you read Fred? especially when you don't even know where it came from Fred?

you see a list of mostly liberal, Democratic mayors, this one in particular, an urban planner, and you just swallow the accusation whole?

it's not like you believe everything written at DU, but a BS post about Democratic mayors being KKK, *that* you believe without even knowing who accused them.

[Android3.14]

89. Good for you, CreekDog

For too many posters, the BS is SOP.

[NutmegYankee]

107. Creek dog for the thread win!

[Dr. Strange]

142. I like cjeekdgg!

[totodeinhere]

148. Well if some Democrats are wrongly on the list wouldn't it be logical to assume

the some of the Republicans on the list are wrongly accused as well? Why would they put out a list that consists of guilty Republicans and innocent Democrats? It just doesn't make any sense.

[PosterChild]

204. Maybe a group of anonymous hacktivist....

...are not what we sould call reasonable responsible journalists. Then anything they might do would not necessarily make sense.

[Freddie Stubbs]

72. Harry Truman withdrew his KKK membership application partly because of the Klan's opposition of

Catholics. The Klan has a long history of hating Catholics, Jews, new immigrants, as well as African-Americans.

[Reter]

230. The current Klan has many Catholic members

David Duke lifted the ban in the 70's.

[7962]

248. Where is your evidence of "many Catholic members"?

Someone merely saying "you can now join" doesnt mean any have actually done it.

[Reter]

257. Well the Klan itself thankfully doesn't even have many members

There are definitely Catholics in there though, their rhetoric doesn't mention them. Although I'm sure they are not liking Pope Francis very much.

[CreekDog]

56. that poster didn't even provide a link to what he posted

so did that poster write the accusations?

[DesMoinesDem]

62. Why do you think this list was even by Anonymous? It's just a guest post on pastebin.

That can be done by anyone. Anonymous' twitter account didn't link to it. It's probably just someone trolling people and for some reason people are eating it up without giving it one second of thought.

[heaven05]

83. excuse me

but those two "qualifications" used as to merit exclusion from these accusations have been proven to me in 21st century america, to be bullshit.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

122. What?

You think the KKK is accepting Catholic, pro-gay, pro multicultural applicants? Am I reading this right?

[heaven05]

126. I'll wait

for the proof to start showing up on these politicians. She, given the family portrait, I find hard to believe could be involved in an hateful, violently racist group such as this white supremacist group spawned by america. So I will, on reflection, reserve decision until more information is available. Just been fooled too many times to trust anymore, this site is included in not trusting what SOME people say they are.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

127. Is this good enough for you?

https://www.facebook.com/MayorRogero

I’m not even sure this is worth responding to, but for the record: There is a list circulating online purporting to “out” elected officials as members of the KKK. For reasons unfathomable to me or anyone who knows me, my name is on the list. Given my background, my interracial family, my public record and my personal beliefs, this would be hilarious except that it is probably being seen by a lot of people who have no idea who I am.
So, just to be clear, for anyone who doesn’t know me: Don’t be ridiculous. I began my political career working for the rights of farm workers with Cesar Chavez. I have spent decades working for causes of social justice and equality. As Mayor, I have pushed for diversity in our workforce and outreach to and inclusion of people of all backgrounds in our community. In concert with President Obama’s My Brother’s Keeper program, I began the Save Our Sons initiative to increase opportunities and reduce violence-related deaths among boys and young men of color. I have advocated publicly for LGBT civil rights, and I was the only mayor in Tennessee to sign onto the mayors’ amicus brief for the plaintiffs in the Supreme Court’s marriage equality case. In short, I don’t think the KKK would want anything to do with me.
I strongly request that anyone associated with the creation and dissemination of this false and defamatory accusation retract it immediately. It is irresponsible and slanderous. (Although, on a positive note, I do appreciate that they are using a picture of me from 12 years ago. Very flattering!)




So now people are in the Klan until they prove to you that they are not? You should be ashamed of yourself.

[heaven05]

132. I am never going to be ashamed

at having doubts about anything anyone says they are. Yes it's proof, I read it. I also say. IF they are on the list, then it's up to them to offer proof such as this to disprove the accusations, period. NO, I AM NOT ASHAMED of myself for EVER having doubts about some here and many, many so called liberals and progressives elsewhere. PERIOD!

[ForgoTheConsequence]

135. So can I publish your name as a child molester?

All you need to do is disprove it in the court of public opinion.

[heaven05]

136. that is a threat

and being WHO you are, you're able to do and say anything at all without consequence. This asinine reponse of yours is all the proof I would need to disprove your accusation since you know nothing about me.

[Gore1FL]

185. He didn't threaten you. He gave an example where you would be the victim of the policy you espouse.

Rhetoric which leaves you without a good answer isn't threatening. It should, however, be thought provoking.

[heaven05]

187. uhhh huh

[Gore1FL]

213. Fail

I believe in the presumption of innocence.

Can I hear an "uhhh huh" or would another insightful message like that be too much for one day?

[7962]

251. When one WANTS to see a racist around every corner, they'll find them.

Regardless of how far out the connection is made

[Ace Rothstein]

155. Have you ever heard the term "evidence of absence"?

[heaven05]

188. right ace

[Gore1FL]

216. How come in your "I got Nothing" response to Ace did you use real words?

All I got was "uhhh huh."

[heaven05]

226. Hey I am hyper

sensitive about racial matters being currently exposed in this country because Barack Obama got elected 7 years ago and certain people felt and feel his is not the proper face to represent america to the world. I can and will make mistakes about some people who are just people. So what. Mistakes that are not mistakes are made every day, racially speaking by people with guns and badges, and I'll just start with Trayvon Martin and go from there. I DO NOT trust the people of this culture that are all bent out of shape because they will be a minority soon. Fox News have them foaming at the mouth like rabid animals. How's that for real words?

[Gore1FL]

231. Here are more real words: "The presumption of innocence."

Much much more important than anyone's emotions, sensitivity, etc.

You called it an attack when someone suggested an assumption of of guilt scenario on you, but you are ready to, without the backing of evidence, assume everyone on an unverified list MUST prove they are not guilty because you'd (self-admittedly) rather go headlong into a mistake.

My Real words are based in logic! I recommend it!

[heaven05]

255. here are more real words spelling names of real people

Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, Sandra Bland, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, John Crawford III, Charleston 9 and many, many, many more. You don't have a case for fairness because "presumption of innocence" only goes to one specific group in america and one way for that specific group. Constantly want fairness and yet none has ever been shown to the neediest and most maligned of this country. And not enough of you 'fair play' individuals have stood up for long enough and/or vocally enough to create permanent change to the racial 'fairness doctrine' within the USA, as applied racially and economically to change it for complete equality and fairness to those mentioned by me previously. Please you don't impress me at all with your tear stained face. Get off your high horse. I recommend you look up fairness and apply your logic to that.

[Gore1FL]

259. So those victims make it OK to victimize other innocents?

Frankly, countering injustice with injustice is a stupid approach. It's also hat's pretty fucked up logic.

If you honestly think that accusing everyone of being in the KKK without any form of evidence and make them defend it is a brilliant idea, then perhaps you should calm down, embrace logic, and seek wisdom.

Please quit being an asshole.

Thanks.

[heaven05]

260. maybe stupid in your book

meaningless word to me. No skin off my nose. Have a good day...........and in my book, backatcha on the ahole stuff.

[Gore1FL]

264. If it's meaningless you should try going to a dictionary site.

Maybe your whole problem is language skills. You lacking in that department would explain why you are communicating that false and unsupported accusations are good policy.

[CreekDog]

170. You're saying she has the prove she's innocent, prove a negative?

you want her to show us her KKK non-membership card?

how do you get those?

maybe the KKK could write her a letter saying, "thank you, she's not a member folks".



you don't even know what you're talking about nor what you're asking.

you've lost all your credibility here for this post and deservedly so.

[heaven05]

190. Look

to all of you, I said given the family picture, it seems that she is not KKK. Highly unlikely actually. But I would bet my bottom dollar that since Presidents in the past have had affiliation with white supremacists like the KKK, it is not a stretch, in today's political/cultural/racial climate that the HOR and the Senate is hiding some white supremacists in plain sight. I will wait and see what anonymous comes out with. So whine, spit, tear up, means nothing to me since I know that accusation is true.

[JimDandy]

197. Anonymous was to put out the KKK list on Nov 5th

so this is probably a setup to dupe the public.

[TNNurse]

211. I am sure there are public officials

who are members of the Klan. Madeline Rogero is not one of them.

A list that could have been valuable is not with errors like that.

[onenote]

199. Not even now that Anon has distanced itself from this list?

[jeff47]

217. Might want to rethink that.

It turns out the list these people are dumping is people who were signed up for KKK mailing lists.

Random person puts your email address in a form on a KKK web site, and these people declare you a member of the KKK.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027310569

[heaven05]

222. probably a hoax

yet I am sure while a member of HOR or Senate would not claim the KKK, I am sure there are some who feel the way KKK feels about POC. Hell the last 7 years has shown me that about our politicians. Especially with their response to the first POTUS whose melanin could be seen. I will never rethink my stance on any aspect of racism in amerikkka or those that perpetuate at at every level of our culture. They are all cretins and cave dwellers dressed up in nice suits.

[jeff47]

223. And those two people you now accuse of being in the KKK

because someone wanted to get revenge on them for his jail sentence?

[heaven05]

227. Like I said

it looks like a hoax and after reading that response about aikens, looks like revenge in this case. I didn't accuse anyone, I just went with the it. I was probably wrong. I'll just wait and see what comes out soon from Anonymous. I still say, Bravo Anonymous and hope they do some good in exposing rabid animals posing as sane citizens who just might be in 'leadership' positions.....And I don't really give a damn what others think about Anonymous or me.

[7962]

249. YOU could be on that list if the right person wanted you on it.

As mentioned by someone else above, anyone can add your name and email to a mailing list, send your name in to "join" something, "Sign" an online petition, etc. Very easy to do. ANd after 3-4 of those, BOOM, you "belong" to the Klan

[heaven05]

258. true

but I'm looking at the fact that my feeling that the accusation(s) COULD be true about these individuals does not end up in summary execution for these poor maligned and unjustly accused individuals. Rush to judgement? Damn right! Fair? No. But I have not seen much fairness exhibited by many here, since just say August 2014 in a lot of the so called progressives and liberals related to accusations and summary executions of POC by our, usually white badge wearing and gun toting authorities. Here it was usually said by a certain group, always, that they were thuggish, had criminal records, not compliant enough and these words related to the DEATH of unarmed people. Don't insult me with your protestations of offense at my rush to judgement about these people accused. I DO NOT FEEL ANY REMORSE about the fact that these accusations could have been true and that I believed them. Too many racists in america to not take something like this seriously.

[Gore1FL]

265. At least you admit to not being fair.

Fortunately, our laws aren't emotion based.

[XenaAmazon]

134. I wholeheartedly agree...

These are tactics used by fascists. Publishing innuendo and gossip ruins lives, and gets people killed. Sorry you were tainted by this. You don't deserve that kind of bs. This is divide and conquer stuff. I'd hope my fellow liberals would see through this kind of trash.

We decry such methods when used by right-to-lifers. This is no more ethical bc we are ideologically aligned with this group! Let's not be hypocrites.

I wouldn't be shocked if this were posted for the purpose of discrediting anonymous.

[XenaAmazon]

124. This is wrong on so many levels!

I'm extremely uncomfortable with releasing the addresses and phone numbers of people who haven't had the benefit of confronting their accusers. The same has been done to abortion providers. And some of those people have ended up dead.

Are we suddenly approving of such tactics? Because these are fascist, right-wing methods I want nothing to do with.

They believe their position to morally justified on the principle they are "saving babies' lives". Please tell me we are not guilty of the same machiavellian ethics.

[Reter]

229. Catholics have been allowed to join since David Duke was leading in the 70's

They stopped the anti-Catholic rhetoric over 40 years ago.

[CreekDog]

25. did you even read the article you posted and see her family portrait?

you shouldn't go around believing everything you read, of course.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. Ocala, Florida. Wonder who their circle of friends are.

[LonePirate]

76. Someone on my Twitter feed said Lexington mayor Jim Gray is openly gay.

While not impossible, it seems unlikely he is a member.

[valerief]

91. Or it's unlikely he's openly gay. nt

[Dr. Strange]

105. He came out in 2002.

In the 2002 race, Gray was worried about a whisper campaign about his personal life. That led to a decision in October 2005 to publicly acknowledge that he is gay.

http://www.kentucky.com/2009/12/09/1051906_vice-mayor-will-try-to-unseat.html?rh=1

[valerief]

113. I was just being logical. I don't know either way. If you know he's openly gay,

then I agree he's probably not KKK and the inclusion of his name was made to discredit all the other names. Who knows? It's not like Cornyn, for example, needs to be KKK for everyone with half a brain to hate him. He's a fuckin' asshole!

[JohnnyLib2]

153. Have there been outright denials?

Trying to keep up....

[JohnnyLib2]

159. Now I see that Mayor Gray has "adamantly" denied involvement.

[LonePirate]

162. Raw Story has compiled four denials, including Gray's

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/mayors-flatly-deny-klan-membership-after-anonymous-releases-names-online/

[DesMoinesDem]

12. Breaking News: An annonymous person has posted a list of people they claim are members of the KKK

without providing any evidence at all. The media is pretty terrible, but they are not dumb enough to report on this.

[Fred Sanders]

15. There does need to be some evidence......I expect it will be delivered shortly....these guys are

not that stupid it seems to me to not realize there will be no mass media reporting without evidence, but they are letting it sink in in the cyber world of news, where evidence is optional.

For now, what would a call to those phone numbers they have reveal? What do the politicians email addresses they have reveal? Stay tuned, do not adjust the vertical or the horizontal.

[DesMoinesDem]

23. "These guys are not that stupid" You have no idea who the random person that posted that text is.

Anyone could have done that. You could create your own list and post it there and it would be no different at all.

[Bluenorthwest]

67. Evidence is optional only for chumps who wish to believe anything they want to believe.

Faith based journalism is called gossip. Making accusations without evidence can be criminal, believing accusations without evidence is simply gullible. Lots of chumps on DU, that's the fact Jack. Gullibility central around here. 'I was on the internet and a Nigerian Prince supporting Bernie told me the world is flat! I am amazed that Bernie supporters all think the world is flat!!!' Chumps are chumps. They are marks, they are patsies and many of them are those things willingly.

[CreekDog]

179. there isn't even evidence that it's them who are the source of the release

but if you are determined to believe first and verify later, i guess i can't stop you.

[Fred Sanders]

194. Can't stop folks from distorting the words and intent of others, either, am I right?

[jeff47]

219. Apparently, the evidence is they were signed up for a mailing list.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027310569

Someone decides to fuck with you, so they put your email address in the form on a KKK web site. According to the claim here, that makes you a member of the KKK.

[Lisa D]

16. Yes, my post was premature.

I guess I'm so fed up with the GOP's draconian efforts to limit voting rights for minorities that this seems believable.

[Fred Sanders]

21. Drip....drip....drip....it is just a matter of information release strategy for maximum impact.

If I were any of these politicians I would be terrorized...in a non-violent way....and Cornyn is a confirmed racist....so, I lose no sleep over this...but Cornyn may!

[mopinko]

97. yeah, there is a track record here for all to see.

it's not like any of these assclowns are on the short list for the nobel peace prize.

[XenaAmazon]

121. I keep urging my fellow liberals

To be very circumspect about the nonsense they are reading about HRC, too. I'm a Bernie supporter, but I'm also alarmed at the kind of BS that my fellow Bernie supporters believe about HRC.

I urge everyone to think twice about anything negative you read about either candidate. The right specializes in character assassinations. If it's dirty, you should smell a rat immediately. Don't be so easily played.

Beware of conspiracies. Reactionarism is the coin of the realm in right wing fantasy land.

I'll support whatever Democrat takes the nomination. However, I'm disheartened by my fellow Bernie supporters who claim they'll write in his name bc they won't vote for Clinton under any circumstances. Apparently a number of them have bought into the Benghazi circus. (Talk about chumps!)

How gullible are you, fellow liberals? Many of you rail against the Kochs, yet you can't see how they profit if you either don't vote, or throw away your vote on a write-in campaign?

Don't believe everything you are being fed, even by those who pose as fellow Democrats. I've seen some outright lies being posted and repeated by those who purport to support Bernie. Bernie would never endorse that kind of messaging.

If you think a Clinton Administration would be insufferable, think about a POTUS who is a Republican extremist. There will be NO checks and balances, NO push back from Congress. They will rubber stamp anything that benefits the 1%.

[mopinko]

238. no kidding.

the right wing slime machine is working overtime.
but gullible seems to be the flavor of the day.
i would like to see bernie in the white house, but i will have no problem working my buns off for hillary. even is 50% of the bs were true, that beats president trump by a million miles.

the playing field is so tilted, it can be hard to find you true north.
i know where mine is, tho.

[hopemountain]

256. and don't believe everyone who says they support

bernie or hillary - or that they are democrats. quite a few posters here just like to stir shit or do so for 'murca.

[CreekDog]

233. Madeleine Rogero has a track record of being a liberal Democrat

you'd know that if you bothered to read the article that you're agreeing with.

[L. Coyote]

205. after illegally hacking websites and finding their phone numbers or emails there!

Just wanted to finish your headline, or exceed your tweet character count, as the case may be.

[CreekDog]

22. Really? Why exactly are you convinced that the Democratic mayor of Knoxville is a KKK member?

because one person, who can't be identified, said so?

here's her family portrait, still think she's a KKK member?:

[riversedge]

92. I certainly am not convinced. As I posted above--

I feared this might happen--WRONG names being put into this mix

[L. Coyote]

206. This is great, thanks for adding it to the thread.

It puts some real faces in the story.

[Ed Suspicious]

5. John Cornyn (R-TX) (Majority Whip of the US Senate)

[luvspeas]

17. YES! Cornyn sucks hard...n/t

[narnian60]

52. +100

[SusanCalvin]

207. I loathe my senior Senator. nt

[LibDemAlways]

6. Expect indignant denials uttered with a

wink and crossed fingers behind the back. Actually KKK membership would most likely be considered a plus among many, if not most, Repuke voters who'll wonder, "Why the fuss?"

[Fred Sanders]

10. I do not agree that being a confirmed member of the KKK will not be much of a fuss for the majority

of Americans, or Republicans.

Remember the fate of the Dixie Swastika?

[LibDemAlways]

26. Will Non-Republicans be outraged? Yes, of course.

Last edited Mon Nov 2, 2015, 02:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Will the majority of Republicans be genuinely outraged? Some will give it lip service. Many would consider it, privately at least, a badge of honor. I've had to dump just about all of my Republican Facebook friends, people in many cases I grew with up along with some distant relatives, because they posted racist shit. KKK sympathizers, all.

[valerief]

94. If we had freedom of the press, we could make them swear on their holy bible

they are not KKK members and detest the mission of the KKK. That'd be funny to watch.

[Fred Sanders]

8. How will the corporate media NOT report on this....what is the related evidence of the allegation?

The media will justify avoiding reporting if there is not ample back up evidence that is near irrefutable and demands an explanation from the accused racists.....which WE already know they are.

P.S. The names will be released in batches...drip...drip...drip....a form of cyber-non-violent-terrorism.

[riversedge]

11. Anonymous #OpKKK: Hacktivists publish first batch of alleged Ku Klux Klan contact details

I am reposting my LBN post because it was a duplicate. I self-deleted my post and X-Post here.




http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141248872#post4

Anonymous #OpKKK: Hacktivists publish first batch of alleged Ku Klux Klan contact details
Source: International business Times



By Anthony Cuthbertson


November 2, 2015 12:06 GMT
Updated 1 hr ago


Anonymous KKK Ku Klux Klan Hacktivist collective Anonymous has promised to reveal the identities of up to 1,000 alleged KKK members on the first anniversary of the Ferguson protestsReuters

Anonymous has published dozens of phone numbers and email addresses allegedly belonging to members of the Ku Klux Klan. The contact details were released late on Sunday (1 November) as part of Operation KKK in order to coincide with the first anniversary of the Ferguson protests.

A Twitter account commonly used to deliver news about Anonymous operations posted links to four separate databases containing 57 phone numbers and 24 emails of alleged KKK members, together with the message: "There is no place for racism now we're more connected, the time to cooperate and better the world is now."


Up to 1,000 more contact details are expected to be published by Anonymous, with a countdown website suggesting that the bulk will be released on 5 November. A video released by the amorphous online group also claimed that websites belonging to the KKK had been infiltrated.

........

Last week a faction of Anonymous revealed that it was planning to reveal the identities of 1,000 members of the KKK on the anniversary of the protests........................


"We took this grudge between us rather seriously. You continue to threaten anons and others. We never said we would only strike once... The aim of this operation is digital. Another cyber war trist, nothing more. We are not violent. We will release, to the global public, the identities of up to 1000 klan members, Ghoul Squad affiliates and other close associates of various factions of the Ku Klux Klan across the Unites States."

Read more: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/anonymous-opkkk-hactivists-publish-first-batch-ku-klux-klan-contact-details-1526794



...........................................******8

I am, at heart, opposed to hacking. There is always a risk of publishing wrong names. I do hope no personal information is exposed such as home addresses, phone #'s, SS # etc.


>>>>>>>>>>>
Anonymous
?@YourAnonNews

Who's next? #Anonymous

[Blue_Adept]

14. Gonna be an interesting week of reveals.

[geek tragedy]

18. is there actual evidence of this?

Not that I would find it surprising, but such extraordinary accusations need a hell of a lot more than anonymous allegations.

[Rhumber]

151. Anonymous avoids defamation suits by hiding their identities

There is no evidence that I can see.

[Cosmic Dancer]

19. Not even being reported by the "liberal" media.

Nothing will come of this information. Never does, with racist rethugs!

[Fred Sanders]

24. Wait for the next release of information from the hacked phone numbers and email accounts....

[riversedge]

34. A few hashtags to follow....

Katrina vandenHeuvel and 1 other follow
Andrew R. Schrock ?@aschrock 7m7 minutes ago

if you are interested in race, politics and the ethics of public shaming/outing, you need to be tracking #HoodsOff right now. #itshappening

[olddots]

20. don't exspect them to be all from the south

this is wide spread .

[CanonRay]

31. Indiana has long been a hotbed of KKK activity. n/t

[msrizzo]

37. Indiana doesn't surprise me.

And frankly MD wouldn't either. We are majority Dem but still lots of hardcore racists here.

[Fred Sanders]

41. The racist Kentucky woman Kim Davis was an elected clerk and was a Democrat..still is, I guess.

Labels are not always one size fits all.

[riversedge]

48. I think I read someplace that she

switched parties. don't recall much else. Independent? Republican?

[jeff47]

57. She re-registered as a Republican. (nt)

[CreekDog]

61. who called these mayors KKK members? WHO?

you believe them?

WHO are you believing? Do you even know?

helping conspiracy theories along is a violation of the Terms of Service. you risk your posting privileges by doing this.

[Bluenorthwest]

73. Her actions were anti gay, a bigoted homophobe but I don't recall her racist statements or actions

Like the Pope, she's anti gay and very aggressive about it. LGBT are not a race, so that's not racism. The Pope is hugely popular on DU, he says LGBT people are disordered and influenced by Satan, is he also a racist?

[LibDemAlways]

40. The KKK is openly recruiting in the

northeastern Pennsylvania town where my father grew up. The mayor recently called for a candlelight march to counter the bigotry and hatred. Very widespread, indeed.

[riversedge]

49. umm. very interesting. Thanks.

[tblue37]

156. My dad also grew up in NE Penssylvania--and after age 12, so did I.

What town? (Pittston and Avoca for me.)

[LibDemAlways]

225. Swoyerville, right next to Pittston if memory

serves. My aunt and uncle ran a popular seafood store, Baron Brothers, across the street from what was then Swoyerville High. My dad was born and raised there but left to attend college back in the 1940s and then moved to NYC. I still have several cousins in the area, though, living in homes built by my grandfather.

[Fred Sanders]

39. The big deal is folks making jaw-dropping false equivalences, for one.

[LiberalEsto]

29. Four Klansmen in the U.S. Senate?

No wonder this country is as fucked up as it seems

[Fred Sanders]

32. That is just as revealed in this this first small batch or names, phone numbers and email addresses.

[7962]

252. I can tell you Issakson is the one of the least likely to be a klansman

The right wing in GA think he's a democrat, and he's never been accused of associating with any racist group in his career.

[Amimnoch]

30. Good grief, that evil bastard Cornyn is probably going to get a poll bump from this shit.

Not surprised at all to see that evil SOB's name listed, but wouldn't be at all shocked to see this help his future electability here in Texas either.

[Fred Sanders]

38. Being a confirmed member of the KKK, in secret for 50 years, will help with electability?

I disagree.

[Amimnoch]

47. in this state.. it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

The more whacky the right, the better they seem to do politically here.

I can't wait for our "purple" status to go blue, but in the mean time, those who are Republican Red here are VERY republican red.

I will be pleasantly surprised if this actually does hurt him politically, and will be very happy to be wrong.

[Gore1FL]

93. We are talking about the GOP

The Southern Strategy worked for 40 years. There are plenty of people in the GOP base that would applaud this membership.

[BillZBubb]

177. Texas

Yep, it would help him.

[Bonhomme Richard]

33. Did they get these names from email list?

If so then I call bullshit. Just because some KKK group had an email address doesn't mean that the person is a member.

[LiberalArkie]

45. I believe the list is from current dues paying membership lists

[Bonhomme Richard]

66. Thanks. n/t

[LiberalArkie]

74. The list of mayors and non senators was not from anonymous.

A lot of disinformation will be happening now and probably for several weeks. Probably even more than is in GD-P

[CreekDog]

236. so the post you made 20 minutes before this one, it turns out is a false

you pivot like that in 20 minutes?

[CreekDog]

235. he doesn't deserve your thanks, he's making it up

[LiberalArkie]

237. You Know, unlike a lot of the people here, I do admit when I have made a mistake.I am happy that you

have never been in the position of making a mistake.

[CreekDog]

242. you didn't admit to making that mistake

and I have both made and admitted to mistakes on DU.

[jeff47]

224. Nope. It's from an email mailing list.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027310569

It's not even in the same galaxy as reliable information.

[CreekDog]

234. You "believe". How cute.

I guess it beats knowledge.

[Duval]

35. Well, we didn't like Tillis

anyway, but sure hope this makes news here in NC!!

[LiberalArkie]

42. I loved the part at Kos where she said

Many of us are incredibly grateful to Anonymous for going after hate groups, corrupt law enforcement officers, agencies. and government officials, rapists, terrorists, child pornography and human trafficking ringleaders and perpetrators. And Anonymous is winning in many instances, much to the dismay of their naysayers (who often sit living room armchairs shaking their fists at the TV or yelling at their computer screens). This idea/entity is infinitely ongoing and powerfully fueled by the internet and the almighty drive for change.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/01/1443109/-Breaking-Anonymous-Releases-New-OpKKK-Message-To-KKK-the-U-S-Government-The-American-People

[drray23]

43. some of you are complaining about the lack of evidence

Anonymous released these names. If there is any truth in these allegations, I am sure the spotlight put on these guys will prompt some investigative journalist to do a more thorough research.

It it is true, it will come out. Besides, given some of the statements by the aforementioned people, I would not be surprised that it is indeed true (check out thom thillis past statements regarding the "traditional" population of north carolina)

[DesMoinesDem]

51. It is very unlikely Anonymous released these names. The Anonymous twitter account did not link

to this list. It linked to 4 lists that had 57 phone numbers and 24 emails. It had no names. Anyone can post on pastebin and the list of politicians is probably just someone messing with people.

[Tempest]

59. Anonymous released a statement - they did release the names

It was a short dump to show they had the information. More to come.

[DesMoinesDem]

64. Please provide proof. Their twitter account did not link to this list or any statement that says

these names are from them.

[LiberalArkie]

60. That pastbin link is for "the current trending". There was 2 links for anon the others

were from anyone in the world including one where a hacker had put together a list of Facebook accounts with names etc.

I think the list with the senators were probably released early and may not have been verified by anon.

[AgingAmerican]

75. Its already on Cornyn's wiki

This is awesome

[LiberalArkie]

78. I think Cornyn has already fixed his page, so they know about it and probably in damage

control mode

[AgingAmerican]

81. Yeah, I should have screen printed it

It was there ten minutes ago

[LiberalArkie]

84. I will imagine it will show up somewhere, probably every person

in congress is checking there wiki pages today.

[AgingAmerican]

90. For sure the ones with ties to the KKK are!

[JonLeibowitz]

221. You can always view previous versions of any article on wikipedia n/t

[7962]

254. The mere accusation requires a full scale investigation!!

Bullshit. If this is where we've sunk, we're all screwed. Coming soon; a list of Democrats who are on some list form somewhere that supports something that is BAD.

[riversedge]

46. The Hill also had an article on this Oct 31

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/258721-anonymous-threatens-to-unmask-alleged-kkk-members

[stage left]

54. K&R

Just Four? Yes, that's on my lips. And no SC senator or representative? I would expect Trey Gowdy's name on that list at least.

[flamingdem]

58. Sounds like another unvetted story but

also sounds likely to be true!

[LiberalArkie]

63. Anon seems to be disavowing the list of mayors

Operation KKK ?@Operation_KKK 5m5 minutes ago
We wont release names w/out due diligence. We discourage the circulation of disinfo & will not promote an unverifiable list of politicians

[Fred Sanders]

120. Anon only released the names of four Senators, it appears, and the others are bogus, including

all the mayors?
And it was not just KKK members that are to be revealed, they mentioned Ghoul Squad and associates and relationships with these groups.



"We took this grudge between us rather seriously. You continue to threaten anons and others. We never said we would only strike once... The aim of this operation is digital. Another cyber war trist, nothing more. We are not violent. We will release, to the global public, the identities of up to 1000 klan members, Ghoul Squad affiliates and other close associates of various factions of the Ku Klux Klan across the Unites States."

[LiberalArkie]

123. Apparently so.

[Kelvin Mace]

69. I have to see the evidence and it had better be good

You don't make this kind of accusation and then fail to back it up. If they don't prove their claim, they will do more damage to us than to the GOP.

[DinahMoeHum]

175. +1

n/t

[randome]

70. I knew this was going to be a dud of a story when they started giving pre-release statements.

It would be nice if it caused some ousters but at this point I wouldn't bet on that happening.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[SmittynMo]

71. Hmmmm. No dems on the list

Gee, I wonder why? I wonder how Rinse Penis will respond to this?

Every day, more nails for the coffin.

And these 4 are probably proud as hell.

[blackspade]

77. Not surprised.

I bet there's more!

Now, will the M$M hold these assholes feet to the fire?
Or will the KKK be whitewashed as a 'civic' organization celebrating "heritage, not hate?"

[KansDem]

79. Doesn't this mean that terrorists have infiltrated the US government?

[AgingAmerican]

82. Specifically the GOP

[heaven05]

80. wow

if true, amerikkkan politics of the 19th century, 20th century, 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 21st century. Nothing new under the sun....in fact amerikkka is devolving with the help of america's FOX NEWS FREAKS! Among others.

[WDIM]

85. Some of those that hold office are the same that burn crosses. nt

[still_one]

86. This is big news, especially with Cornyn

[retrowire]

87. omg my state senator thom Tillis!?

yes! get him the fuck out now!!!

[Calista241]

88. I'd like to know a bit more about this list

Where was it? Who maintained it? How did Anonymous get their hands on it?

There's already some names on this list that are highly questionable.

[zentrum]

95. Thank you Anonymous.

And the inspiration for this of BLM.

The Cornyn exposure is huge.

[vkkv]

98. AWESOME! ! Keep the names COMING!!!

TRUTH LEANS LEFT
REPUBLICANS LEAN RIGHT

[Spitfire of ATJ]

99. Shoulda released it before Halloween....

That way their homes would get that "special" treatment from tiny terrorists.

[Person 2713]

106. They did not publish addresses so no one would seek to take justice on their own

[Spitfire of ATJ]

167. I'm waiting for them to demand SS protection.

[Nye Bevan]

100. The DailyKos diary that you are linking to has been deleted,

so probably a good idea to self-delete this thread.

[Sanity Claws]

103. I wish DailyKos

would publish a retraction and explain what is wrong with its prior post rather than simply delete.

[bluestateguy]

101. I'm not seeing other media outlets reporting this

Even the ones we regard as legitimate.

This seems to be falling stillborn.

[niyad]

102. is anyone surprised?

[merrily]

104. I admit it: Sometimes, I love Anonymous.

[LynneSin]

108. And to think the GOP would give us shit about Sen Robert Byrd

The late Sen Byrd of West Virginia was very open about his youth in the KKK. He also said it was something he had regretted doing too.

[L. Coyote]

109. dKos Diary deleted - anyone save the page?

[Matariki]

115. Do you think it's because that list of Senators was premature

or fabricated by the Daily Kos author?

Is that list published anywhere else, I wonder?

[L. Coyote]

118. The title was poorly written, to be sure, not true

even if the four Republican Senators are members. GD has this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027308967

At any rate, and any which way you look at it, this guy is not happy today:

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

203. I think it's because there are some names that don't make any sense on the list.

Suggesting that somebody screwed up somewhere. I doubt it was the DK author, though.

This dump was also by an outside hacker, not the official 'Operation KKK' list from Anonymous, which is scheduled to drop Nov 5.

[Attorney in Texas]

110. I don't know the others, but I am acquainted with John Cornyn, and I seriously doubt he's a Klansman

I disagree with 95% of Cornyn's views (a few years ago I would have said "I disagree with 100% of Cornyn's views" but then the numbskulls in my state elected Tex Cruz who makes Cornyn seem almost rational by comparison).

Notwithstanding this disagreement on almost every significant political issue, I do not believe for even one second that Cornyn is a member of the KKK.

Before you embrace this story, go see the movie Truth, which reminds us that GW Bush drew attention away from his very real desertion by disproving the authenticity of one piece of evidence within the mountain of proof confirming Bush's AWOL status. This KKK story smells like a similar setup -- there may be a real story here but perhaps there is a game afoot to discredit that real story by implanting a false clue which will later be exposed as inaccurate in an effort to discredit the whole story.

[TexasBushwhacker]

154. I agree. Cornyn is an asshole, but he's not stupid

You have to ask, "What's in it for them?" What possible benefit would Cornyn get from being a MEMBER of a hate group? He could be a sympathizer for them without being an actual member. If his e-mail or phone number is in their database, it just means they may have contacted him. In and of itself, that doesn't prove anything.

[BillZBubb]

178. Agree on Cornyn.

Evil right winger, but not dumb enough to associate with an outfit like the KKK.

[Gothmog]

111. Senator Boxturtle is on this list

He just got re-elected in 2014

[yurbud]

114. I thought politicians would join the conservative Citizens Council which is the klan for people with

All their teeth and who can read.

Its like the Chamber of Commerce for racist

[EL34x4]

149. Honestly, I can't see any noteworthy politician belonging to the KKK.

No matter how racist they might be.

This isn't the KKK of the 1920s, or even the early 1960s. Today's Klan is a powerless, laughable mockery of what they used to be. An organization who's membership consists of approximately 10% toothless hillbilly rednecks and 90% undercover federal agents.

[Myrina]

116. Dan Coats, keeping Indiana's Klan tradition alive ....

Sigh.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

117. Note that the names released were found in KKK databases. That does NOT mean they're all KKK.

Amped Attack claims to have found the names and addresses of individuals involved in KKK databases. Depending upon how the databases were set up, tables of persons and addresses might include ANY persons and addresses of interest to the KKK group involved, even including targets, not just members. As is pointed out in another DK diary, at least one very progressive lefty mayor's name and address show up in the list, and based on her resume, she's much more likely to be a 'person of interest' to the KKK, rather than one of them herself.

[Sunlei]

137. good points, we have to wait and see what comes on 11/4

[jeff47]

215. In fact, it turns out they are people who were signed up for KKK mailing lists.

Someone decides to enter your email on a web form, and you end up on this list.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027310569

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

220. There ya go, then.

Some folks on the list who probably wanted to keep an eye on them, others who were signed up as jokes or to annoy them, and others who might actually be members or wannabes, all mixed together.

[SoapBox]

119. wow...

And then where does this go?

I'm fairly sure they will be defended by all sorts of bizarre groups and some that are no so bizarre.

Maybe they'll allow the most junior, unknown one to be sacrificed in the Court of Public Opinion, so that they can just slither away.

It is 2015, almost 2016...right?

[XenaAmazon]

130. Are you saying it's OK to post innuendo

Without any proof of credibility? How about reliability of sources? What stops you from being identified as a pedophile tomorrow when you are so willing to accept character assassination w/o any evidence whatsoever?

This is why courts exclude hearsay. This is how human beings ended up being burned as witches.

I think this is appalling.

[SoapBox]

145. No.

I said nothing of the kind, about posting innuendo.

You should probably address this issue to the OP and not me personally.

And sorry to say, I don't care for you attaching a reply to my post and dragging in anything regarding pedophiles...my opinion, that's just creepy.

[leftyladyfrommo]

172. I think it's appalling, too. nt

[ForgoTheConsequence]

128. Statement from Mayor Rogero....

I’m not even sure this is worth responding to, but for the record: There is a list circulating online purporting to “out” elected officials as members of the KKK. For reasons unfathomable to me or anyone who knows me, my name is on the list. Given my background, my interracial family, my public record and my personal beliefs, this would be hilarious except that it is probably being seen by a lot of people who have no idea who I am.
So, just to be clear, for anyone who doesn’t know me: Don’t be ridiculous. I began my political career working for the rights of farm workers with Cesar Chavez. I have spent decades working for causes of social justice and equality. As Mayor, I have pushed for diversity in our workforce and outreach to and inclusion of people of all backgrounds in our community. In concert with President Obama’s My Brother’s Keeper program, I began the Save Our Sons initiative to increase opportunities and reduce violence-related deaths among boys and young men of color. I have advocated publicly for LGBT civil rights, and I was the only mayor in Tennessee to sign onto the mayors’ amicus brief for the plaintiffs in the Supreme Court’s marriage equality case. In short, I don’t think the KKK would want anything to do with me.
I strongly request that anyone associated with the creation and dissemination of this false and defamatory accusation retract it immediately. It is irresponsible and slanderous. (Although, on a positive note, I do appreciate that they are using a picture of me from 12 years ago. Very flattering!)





Everyone jumping on this and spiking the football should be ashamed. Get off the internet for a while and get some fresh air.

[progressoid]

247. ^^^this^^^

And as someone up thread pointed out. It's likely these people are just in the KKK database.

[silvershadow]

138. Daily Kos link has been removed. While I am excited for this to come to pass,

I am waiting for a decent and credible accounting.

[rusty fender]

139. No politician on the national level

would be currently paying dues to the KKK. Nor would he/she go anywhere near the KKK in person.

Epic fail disclosure.

[cindyperry2010]

140. you know

if they do not sue for libel it is all true what a bunch of scummy fucks

[Oneironaut]

141. The only thing more pathetic than a Klan member is a secret Klan member.

That means they don't have the balls to reveal themselves to the world.

[heaven05]

143. Bravo Anonymous!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rhumber]

163. Are you accusing Democratic mayor Madeline Rogero of being a KKK member?

She is being smeared.

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/2015/11/02/mayor-rogero-scoffs-claims-kkk-ties-calls-them-defamatory/75040018/

[heaven05]

191. No, never

Bravo Anonymous on principle.

[zentrum]

146. Does anyone know….

…why Kos deleted the post about this?

Not sure what is the exact question—but are there doubts about Anonymous and the prove-ability of these names?

Elsewhere I read that Joe ("You Lie&quot Wilson is on it. Philosophically, Im sure he is. But what is the real story here?

Don't want another Bush-Airforce-Gate here where in fact the liberals are being set up by a false set of documents with the goal of defusing BLM and a real analysis of our racist system.

[Rhumber]

157. Democratic mayor Madeline Rogero denies being a KKK member

I hope we learned our lesson. Blindingly believing anonymous sources may backfire.

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/2015/11/02/mayor-rogero-scoffs-claims-kkk-ties-calls-them-defamatory/75040018/

[Ace Rothstein]

160. There is no evidence, yet.

Anonymous completely blew the their "outing" in Ferguson last year. The guy wasn't even a cop. People need to be very careful with this information right now.

[zentrum]

183. Ok. Thanks.

[SereneG]

150. Kudos Anonymous

Anonymous names US Senators

Thom Tillis (R-N.C.),
John Cornyn (R-Tx.),
Dan Coats (R-In.)
Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.)

Anonymous also outed several mayors of major US cities:

Madeline Rogero of Knoxville, Tennessee;
Jim Gray of Lexington, Kentucky;
Paul D. Fraim of Norfolk, Virginia; Kent Guinn of Ocala, Florida;
Tom Henry of Fort Wayne, Indiana.

Thom Tillis, who is listed as a member of the United Northern and Southern Knights of the KKK in Thornton, was North Carolina’s Speaker of the House before being elected to the US Senate in 2014. Tillis was behind the implementation of numerous far-right policies in the Tar Heel State including voter ID laws, public education cuts, restrictions on abortion that were later struck down by federal judges, tax hikes on low-income earners to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy, among others.

[bJohn Cornyn, who Anonymous claims is affililiated with the United White Knights of the KKK, is the current Majority Whip, making him one of the most powerful members of the US Senate.

Johnny Isakson is listed as a member of the Original Knight Riders of the KKK. Isakson served as a U.S. Congressman for Georgia’s 6th Congressional District between 1999 and 2005. He currently serves as Georgia’s senior US Senator, and is up for re-election in 2016.

Dan Coats is Indiana’s senior US Senator, and is listed as a member of the United Northern and Southern Knights of the KKK — along with Thom Tillis.

Jim Gray of Lexington, Kentucky, who Anonymous says is a member of the United Northern and Southern Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, is openly gay. Gray vehemently denied any ties to the KKK on his official Twitter feed.


http://usuncut.com/politics/anonymous-unhoods-kkk-prominent-politicians/

[Enthusiast]

158. Tip of the iceberg.

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[Tommy_Carcetti]

161. "I belong to a certain secret society, I don't believe I need to mention its name."

At least Homer Stokes was honest about it.

[RandySF]

164. This doesn't pass the smell test.

[Hepburn]

165. Holy shit!

I am stunned...I knew some were really, really huge assholes, but this!?!?!?!?!?!

[drm604]

166. Here's the Google cache of that Daily Kos page.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/02/1443420/-Several-Republican-Senators-outed-as-members-of-the-KKK-by-Anonymous

I have no idea of the accuracy of these claims, no real evidence is posted, but if this is true these men should resign.

[Rhumber]

168. What should happen to Anonymous members if it is not true?

?

[drm604]

169. I'm not a lawyer but I think the individuals falsely named could sue.

The problem would be identifying who posted the false information.

[leftyladyfrommo]

171. What about suing the media outlet

That published these names with no vetting or fact checking?

I think this is just wrong. These people are being smeared with no way to defend themselves.

I would love to see the KKK members outed but not like this.

[L. Coyote]

173. Thanks. So, a Big Fat Lie on dKos gets pasted here and REC'ed to the top. Embarassing!

Last edited Mon Nov 2, 2015, 05:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Here is a new thread on DU without all the unwarranted overzealotry.

Reports: Hacktivist group Anonymous publishes names of alleged Ku Klux Klan members (on edit: thread locked as a dupe of this one)


Looking back just a bit to this media storm beginning anew, this is Sat. PM on dKos:

New Anonymous video confirms threat to reveal 1,000 members of KKK is real & invites public to join

[L. Coyote]

174. Now Anon is having to school all those with pants on fire

http://mic.com/articles/127803/anonymous-2015-kkk-leak-allegedly-reveals-names-of-elected-officials-through-data-hack

Jessica Eggert, a staff writer at Mic, covering breaking news based in New York , includes this in a just released piece:

....

Anonymous said a political figure's email address appearing on the list didn't automatically mean that person was a member of the hate group. Anyone with access to one of those email addresses could have used it to register with the organization.

A similar point was raised in August when hackers revealed the alleged email addresses of some 32 million members of the extramarital affair site Ashley Madison. The site never required email verification, so finding someone's email on the list didn't prove they had set up an account.

...........

[Babel_17]

180. What about the CCC? Or is that a known known?

Anyway, I found it interesting to read the Wikipedia article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Conservative_Citizens#History

The Council of Conservative Citizens (CofCC) is an American white nationalist organization that supports a large variety of conservative and paleoconservative causes in addition to white nationalism,[1] and white separatism.[2] Its Statement of Principles says that they "oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind". Several members of the CofCC Board of Directors are former leaders of the segregationist Citizens' Councils of America, founded by Bob Patterson, which is commonly referred to as the White Citizens' Council.[3] The organization is headquartered in Irving, Texas. Its president is Earl Holt, while Jared Taylor is the group's spokesman and Paul Fromm is its international director.[4]

The CofCC considers itself a traditional conservative group opposing liberals and neo-conservatives; it supports national self-determination, immigration restriction, federalism, and home rule, and opposes free trade and global capitalism. Its specific issues include states' rights, race relations (especially interracial marriage, which it opposes), and conservative Christian values. They have criticized Martin Luther King, Jr., who is considered by the organization as a left-wing agitator of Black American communities with notable ties to communism, and holding personal sexual morals unworthy of a person deserving national recognition.[17] They consider the American Civil Rights Movement and the Frankfurt School as elementally subversive to the separation of powers under the United States Constitution. Consistent with paleoconservatism, they regard American culture as an offshoot of European culture, specifically the British Protestant tradition.[citation needed] The Council of Conservative Citizens is active in organizing the restriction, reduction, or moratorium of immigration, enforcing laws and regulations against illegal aliens, ending what they see as racial discrimination against whites through affirmative action and racial quotas, overturning Supreme Court rulings and Congressional Acts such as forced busing and gun control, ending free trade economic policy, and supporting a conservative sexual morality, which includes promotion of the Defense of Marriage Act and opposition to the inclusion of homosexuality as a civil right.

In later years, additional media articles on the involvement of other Republican Party leaders and conservative Democrats with the CofCC attempted to force a distinct denunciation of their association with the organization. For instance, U.S. Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott had also been a member of the CofCC. Following the report, the CofCC was denounced by the Chairman of the Republican National Committee, Jim Nicholson, for holding "racist and nationalist views" and demanded that Lott formally denounce the organization. Although Lott refused to denounce the organization, he stated that he had resigned his membership. Subsequently, Nicholson, demanded Lott denounce his former segregationist views following a speech he gave at Senator Strom Thurmond's birthday dinner when he applauded the Senator's former Dixiecrat presidential campaign.[10] Following the controversy Nicholson's demands initiated, Lott once again apologized for his past support for segregation, his past associations, and his remarks at Thurmond's birthday. This caused his loss of support from a number of important conservatives, not least, Thurmond himself. Consequently, Lott resigned his post as Senate Minority Leader. Similarly, former House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt also attended an event of the organization's St. Louis predecessor the "Metro-South Citizens Council" shortly before the name was changed in the mid-1980s. This was an event he has repeatedly referred to as a mistake.[11] In 1993, Mike Huckabee, then the Lieutenant Governor of Arkansas, agreed to speak at the CofCC's national convention in Memphis, Tennessee in his pursuit of the Governorship of Arkansas. By the time of the CofCC convention, Huckabee was unable to leave Arkansas. Instead, he sent a videotaped speech, which "was viewed and extremely well received by the audience," according to the CofCC newsletter.[12] However, following his success in the election, in April 1994, Huckabee withdrew from a speaking engagement before the CofCC. He commented, "I will not participate in any program that has racist overtones. I've spent a lifetime fighting racism and anti-Semitism."[13]

Other prominent conservative national and state politicians who were members refused to denounce, distance, or resign their membership, and continued attending meetings and giving speeches remained prominent political leaders within the conservative movement including former Senator Jesse Helms. Senator Helms remained supportive of the CofCC and consistently won his elections, and support from the CofCC was considered decisive enough that the organization was influential in office throughout his terms in the Senate. Similarly, former governors H. Guy Hunt of Alabama and Kirk Fordice of Mississippi, as well as Senator Strom Thurmond remained active members and/or gave speeches to the organization. Strom Thurmond remained in the Senate until he retired in 2002.

The SPLC and the Miami Herald tallied a further 38 federal, state, and local politicians who appeared at CofCC events between 2000 and 2004.[14] The ADL states the following politicians are members or have spoken at meetings: Senator Trent Lott, Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, Mississippi state senators Gary Jackson, and Dean Kirby, several Mississippi state representatives. People who have also spoken at CofCC meetings include Ex-Governors Guy Hunt of Alabama, and Kirk Fordice of Mississippi. U.S. Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi is said to have attended as well.[15]

In 2005, the Council of Conservative Citizens held its National Conference in Montgomery, Alabama. George Wallace Jr., an Alabama Public Service Commissioner and former State Treasurer who was then running for Lieutenant Governor, and Sonny Landham, an actor, spoke at the conference.

Mississippi is the only state that has major politicians who are open CofCC members, including State Senators and State Representatives. The CofCC once claimed 34 members in the Mississippi legislature.[16]

[japple]

184. Not a bit surprised here in Georgia.

n/t

[mhatrw]

189. This is somewhere near the most awesome thing ever.

Feel the Bern

or

Feel the Cross Burn?

on edit: If it turns out to be true about the Senators. It is obviously not true of many of the mayors.

[Simongren]

192. According to Anonymousopkkk, anonymous has NOT posted any information

According to anonymous they have not posted any information and will not do so until Nov 5, 2015.
http://www.snopes.com/anonymous-opkkk/

[L. Coyote]

193. This is now Greatest Thread with 173 Recs, and even Anon is saying it isn't true. Go DU!

Can we start a Critical Reasoning Forum?

[L. Coyote]

195. Just now: #OpKKK was in no way involved with today's release of information that incorrectly outed..

"#OpKKK was in no way involved with today's release of information that incorrectly outed several politicians"

[uberblonde]

201. Anonymous says they didn't leak this.

And you shouldn't be spreading it around as if they did. They are still planning to release their information Nov. 5th.

[ellenrr]

245. probably the false "leak" was to discredit anonymous...

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/anonymous-denies-link-to-list-of-alleged-kkk-members-and-promises-to-release-its-own/

[randys1]

202. This is like the Bush letter, CBS, Dan Rather, champagne unit. No, the document is probably bogus

but we all know the truth is much worse than this anyway.

Actual members?

of course not, they wouldnt dare, but sympathetic?

They might as well be members

[L. Coyote]

208. So, who is Blue_Adept and where did he/she go after dropping this bomb?

Just another anon person on the web I assume?

[Quixote1818]

210. Probably Carl Rove.

Maybe the real Anon will find out who they are?

[Blue_Adept]

244. How about "I went to work?"

I didn't realize it was a requirement to reply and comment regularly on every article that one posts.

[Quixote1818]

209. Just removed my Rec. since this is probably bogus. Others should do the same. nt

[noiretextatique]

212. racists?! in amerikkka?!

i will need tons of proof to believe this unfounded, outlandish accusation! it's not like the GOP has ever, ever, ever engaged in race-baiting or employed a strategy to attract potential, possible, racists (who are mostly imaginary). in the senate, no less?! it simply is not possible in post-racial amerikka as if!

[harun]

253. In the GOP ???!?!?!?! What label these people put on themselves is

irrelevant to me, KKK or not their message, overt ones and hidden ones are that they are racist pigs.

[uhnope]

214. I'm so glad DU has abandoned all standards for the LBN section

sourcing to DK and a half dozen OPs about the same story.

[Javaman]

232. well well well, john corn-hole, my asshole senator is a member of the klan...

honestly, can't say that I'm the least bit surprised.

don't worry, he'll pull a vitter and find a way to slime his way out of this.

this is texas after all.

[certainot]

239. is the standard of proof on this higher than the FBI requires?

[davidpdx]

240. I've got $10 on Lindsey Graham. Anyone????

[Kablooie]

241. Not Necessarily True!!

The Anonymous KKK dump has not happened yet.
The names that were released today were not sanctioned by Operation KKK, the group that engineered the hack.
They may be accurate but then again they may not, it's too early to tell.

Operation KKK ?@Operation_KKK 9h9 hours ago
This account has NOT YET released any information. We believe in due diligence and will NOT recklessly involve innocent individuals #OpKKK

Operation KKK ?@Operation_KKK 9h9 hours ago
The anons at the helm of this initiative vouch ONLY for the dox list that will be released from this Twitter account on November 5 2015.

[L. Coyote]

243. Lies are really popular today. Rec count just keeps climbing nonetheless after exposed.

Maybe people aren't even reading the details, just rec and run without questioning the idea that four Republican Senators are in the KKK.

[sammythecat]

263. First thing I did after reading the OP

was to check the replies. Sure enough, knowledgeable DU'ers like yourself gave well-reasoned opinions on why this was total bullshit. Now I see 250 replies and it's obvious a good percentage of them haven't bothered to read any of the dissenting opinions even though the OP is sensational, surprising, and at least a little dubious. The kind of news that screams for verification, yet they just took it and ran. THAT is a little disturbing. I thought we were supposed to be the high-information voters.

[L. Coyote]

266. It would be more disturbing is a sample of posters here were representative of the population.

If you are inside your own cyber-bubble, you don't see the bigger bubbles bursting at all. And in this media, you are supposed to react and interact and people don't hesitate to express their delight. But this never got past the real media and the diary got yanked real fast on dKos. If you wanted to know what was going on, all you had to do was leave the bubble and click on Twitter for one minute. Albeit the image trending fastest for #OpKKK was the false Cornyn KKK meme, the facts were also there. Before noon, the big bubble, the four Senators claim, had burst. And the people who were most inconvenience were true blue opponents of the KKK because we are not, in the broad sample, the high-information voters.

This wasn't the only false thread planted here yesterday, another by a poster that also vanished after posting and never commented on the falsehood of the story.

[progressoid]

250. UNrec.

The KOS diary has been deleted and this post should be as well.

[L. Coyote]

262. Good idea. Delete this thread. I can't UNrec because I came to the thread after Kos caught on.

The new memes were funny until it became apparent it was another going-over-the-cliff day, the crowd cheering too wildly to head warnings.

Instead, they locked the "dupe" thread I posted with the true story when the MSM had a story because this wasn't true, silencing the true story.

I was enjoying the karmic backlash for our not-so-beloved State of the Union racist Congressman (see KKK in his bio). I was alerted to the edit war in Wikipedia by the dKos thread. Well before noon, this story was over everywhere but the echo chamber was filled by the thundering of the herd over that cliff.