Suspect dead, 10 hurt in hammer attack in Canadian office

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

LILLOOET, British Columbia (AP) — Police say a man has walked into an aboriginal government office in British Columbia and attacked the people there with a hammer, leaving 10 injured, some critically.

Police say the suspect was restrained when they arrived and died some time after the Wednesday attack.

Michaela Swan with the Interior Health Authority said that two patients are in critical condition, another two in serious condition and six others have non-life threatening injuries.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police say they were called about a man with a weapon at the Bridge River Indian Band office. They say they found the suspect already restrained when they arrived, but he was unconscious and unresponsive.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d570686056ec47c6bc253fd335d4320d/suspect-dead-10-hurt-hammer-attack-canadian-office

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They didn't need a good guy with a nail gun.

[KamaAina]

1. Remember, hammers don't kill people...

oh, wait a minute, they don't. Only the suspect died. Much like the recent knife attack in Baltimore.

[madinmaryland]

2. If only there had been a good guy with a hammer...

[KamaAina]

3. If I had a hammer....

</peter-paul-and-mary>

[madinmaryland]

9. Why does the fucking hammer hate my thumb.

Fucking hammer kills thumbs!!

[Yo_Mama]

39. Gosh, I"m startled that was the first thing that flashed into my head.

A terrible story, but now I'm going to have the jingle in my brain for the rest of the day.

"I'd hammer in the morning, I'd hammer in the evening, all over this land. I'd hammer out a danger"

[GGJohn]

4. You seriously think hammers don't kill people?

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/10/14/hammer-attack-kills-teen-2-others-injured

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578913/Woman-cuts-lovers-penis-scissors-flushes-toilet-kills-hammer-demands-money-sex-threatens-blackmail-nude-photos.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/houston-man-killed-hammer-left-bodies-warehouse-article-1.2358500

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/bosnian-community-in-st-louis-outraged-over-fatal-hammer-attack/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html

I could keep on going, but I've made my point.

[KamaAina]

5. Nice research.

How much do you think I'd have to do to come up with four gun killings?

[GGJohn]

6. Oh, I'm sure it would be ridiculously easy,

but I'm just responding to your statement that hammers don't kill people.

[KamaAina]

7. It was a parody of the NRA shibboleth "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."

[GGJohn]

8. Ahhh, ok, I get it now.

Sometimes I'm a little dense on getting the point, it would seem this was one of those times.

[MosheFeingold]

42. Hate be an asshole because I support you

But are more murders committed in the USA with "hammers and clubs" that with all type of rifles (including assault rifles) put together.

For example, in 2011, there were 323 murders committed with rifle of any kind but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs.

This is an easy click away.

[LanternWaste]

45. What is the relevance of limiting your numbers to rifles only rather than firearms as a whole?

What is the relevance of limiting your numbers to rifles only rather than firearms as a whole?

[Lizzie Poppet]

48. Might be because so much anti-gun talk is directed against "assault weapons," not handguns.

Handguns are used in the large majority of gun homicides and suicides. Yet for some reason (probably relating to media coverage), we focus on mass shootings and the weapons uses in some - but by no means all - of them. This has been frustrating me no end, lately...

[MosheFeingold]

49. Correct

So much of gun control is things about "assault rifles" and magazine size.

Such would have negligible, if any, impact.

"Assault rifles" are expensive and relatively large and thus not easy to conceal. I'm not going to mug someone to get $20 using a $1500 rifle. No margin in it, especially if I have to ditch the large weapon.

[JonathanRackham]

51. Hmmmmm.....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/04/24/man-dies-after-being-shot-30-times-with-nail-gun.html

[SwissTony]

10. i like your take on this.

Your question was " You seriously think hammers don't kill people?"

And if we replace 'hammers" with "guns" we get...

"You seriously think guns don't kill people?"

[GGJohn]

11. Huh?

[SwissTony]

12. The NRA's position is that guns don't kill people.

But your position is that (somehow) hammers do.

[Darb]

17. Nailed him on that one didn't you? I doubt he will acknowledge.....

that you just handed him his arse. The full-time, one issue, gun fetish defenders seldom own their failure. It's part of their job description.

[GGJohn]

18. He didn't nail me on anything,

it is true that a firearm by itself doesn't kill people, it takes human interaction for a firearm to harm someone.

Wanna try again at another fail?

[Darb]

21. What's you view on climate change?

Are you allowed to comment while on the clock?

[GGJohn]

23. I already addressed that with you in another post.

And owning and running a small farm means I'm always on the clock.

[Darb]

25. Uh huh. Got it.

You manage to never miss a gun thread. Go turn the compost.

[GGJohn]

27. So what if I comment on firearm threads?

What's your problem with it?

The only compost around here is your posts.

[Darb]

29. Small farmer without compost? Figures.

The problem is you are a devout poster in favor of allowing lunatics the freedom to kill people as unhindered as possible. As long as you keep your toys.

It is immoral. I am calling you out.

[GGJohn]

30. Again, firearms aren't toys

and any idiot who thinks as you do should have their firearms removed until such time as they can prove that they no longer think of firearms as toys.

Calling me out? This is, again, pure comedy gold.

[Darb]

32. Yeah, calling you out.

You favor gun rights for loonies over a civil society. Consider yourself called out.

[GGJohn]

34. I just can't stop laughing at your posts,

this is comedy at it's best.
Thanks for the laughs, it made the start of my day worth it.

Consider yourself called out.

[Darb]

37. I am certain your obtuseness renders you unable to see..........

that you have lost badly.

That's ok, you can still go out and do something useful like start a composting operation on your "small farm".

Here ya go:

http://journeytoforever.org/compost_farm.html

Why not spend a little more time doing something positive (ie. composting) rather than beating the gunbot drum, which is most certainly a negative karmic activity.

I am outta here. See ya next time.

[GGJohn]

38. " I am certain your obtuseness renders you unable to see..........that you have lost badly."

Even our cows are laughing at your fail.

[passiveporcupine]

40. That's funny

I remember a story about a dog accidentally shooting his owner. So, yes, guns can shoot without human interaction. They can be knocked off a surface, hit the floor and go off (and it could be a cat that knocked it off). Hammers can also fall off a high building and kill someone.

Even plastic bags blowing in a storm could be swallowed by someone and choke them to death.

We aren't talking about accidents like those though, are we?

Ah, you gunners...you are so desperate to deflate any honest discussion of the dangers of guns.

[GGJohn]

44. Modern firearms don't fire when dropped.

That's my point, many things kill, but with some here, it seems that some are more dead if killed by a firearm.

[LanternWaste]

46. Keep moving your goalposts...

Keep digging in and moving your goalposts... it's bemusing at this point.

[christx30]

52. Human interaction kills, not the gun. Got it.

So let's do background checks and licensing on the human. We'll track the gun from human to human so we know who has what weapon.

[GGJohn]

54. Background checks? No problem,

If by licensing you mean like what IL has, a FOID, then I can live with that, but if you mean registration, that's a no go with me, and not because I'm paranoid about the govt using the info to confiscate firearms, but because the govt has no damn business, nor a right, to know what firearms I own, and the ACLU also opposes registration based on privacy grounds.

[GGJohn]

19. Hammers do kill prople,

Google is your friend, lots of stories of hammers being used to kill people.

[LanternWaste]

47. Mass killings from a lone hammerer is indeed, a troubling concern

Mass killings from a lone hammerer is indeed, a troubling concern at both schools and the office, regardless of whether you're friends with a search engine protocol or not.

[passiveporcupine]

16. Oh you made your point.

And it's starting to look pretty silly from this side of the argument.

You know you can kill someone with a plastic bag too don't you?

[GGJohn]

20. How is it looking silly?

I provided links to stories of hammers being used to kill people.
People die from all sorts of things, but to some people, they're more dead if a firearm was used.

[Darb]

22. Not more dead, more numerous.

I understand that that point bounces off of your obtuse edges.

Keep up the bad work, cha-ching.

[GGJohn]

24. Another fail.

But do keep up the fail, I so enjoy it.

[Darb]

26. I'd say it hit dead center. You get that reference I am sure.

Get out there and get to work.

[GGJohn]

28. I'd say you swung and missed.

But, again, keep up the fail, it's pure comedy gold.

[Darb]

31. Some people have a strange sense of humor, apparently.

I don't find continuously flogging gun availability to lunatics in order to protect your right to play with AKs funny at all.

To each his own.

Start composting.

[GGJohn]

33. Play with AK's?

[Darb]

35. Isn't that what the gunbots do with them?

I don't think they are going to war.

[GGJohn]

36. I have no idea what the hell a gunbot is.

I sure hope you don't play with your firearms, after all, they're not toys.

[passiveporcupine]

41. every gun discussion, you show up and do the same silly thing

Trying to deflect from the conversation

[GGJohn]

43. And......................

Why the hell do you care?
And I have a different about silly, my definition is your silly post to my informative post.

[christx30]

53. Hammers can kill.

But a mass hammer attack injuries 10 people. The crazed carpenter here is the only one to die.
A mass shooting can kill a whole hell of a lot more, and are harder to stop.
No one here is disputing the lethality of hammers. It's the weapon of choice for some of Mario's enemies, not to mention Thor, the god of Thunder. But I'd rather see guns more heavily regulated than something from Ace Hardware.

[GGJohn]

55. I had to laugh at the reference to Mario.

I wonder how many here understand what you were referring to.

[HuskyOffset]

14. Hammers & guns don't kill people

Hammers and guns, by themselves, don't kill people, they both require a person to wield them. The problem is, it is so very very much easier to kill someone with a gun, even accidentally. It's a lot harder to accidentally kill someone with a hammer. That is because hammers aren't designed primarily to kill things.

[C Moon]

15. +1000

So tired of these people standing up for a hobby that kills by scores.
...making excuses by comparing gun killings to car collisions, etc.
We need gun laws now.

[shenmue]

13. ...

[u4ic]

50. UPDATE

A sad situation all round.


A 22-year-old man who went on a rampage and injured 11 people at the office of a British Columbia First Nation lashed out when life became too overwhelming, the band’s chief says.

Bridge River Indian Band Chief Susan James said band staff were working with the young man to try and find stable housing and a way to pay his rent.

“He had complex social and health needs that our staff did not have the resources or training to adequately respond to,” the chief said in a news release.

http://www.680news.com/2015/10/16/b-c-coroner-identifies-22-year-old-man-in-first-nations-office-attack/