Thu May 17, 2012, 03:40 PM
MindMover (2,798 posts)
Colorado congressman: “Obama’s not an American”This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Ruby the Liberal (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum). A congressman renews the GOP's big lie, and reveals the party's true ideal: Male, rich, straight, white Twenty-four hour news cycles are messy and chaotic, almost never fully summarizing the zeitgeist of the moment. But today is one of those rare days where the news cycle perfectly embodies the tectonic shifts in American politics — and the friction that comes from such shifts. In the last day, we’ve learned that America has reached a demographic tipping point. For the first time in history, there are more minority births than white births in the United States, meaning we’re closer than ever to becoming a majority minority nation. At almost exactly the same time these numbers were being released, a top Republican lawmaker, U.S. Rep. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.), was making national headlines with a leaked audio recording of him publicly declaring that the first African-American president is “not an American.” Here’s the audio and full quote from Coffman’s remarks at a Republican fundraiser: “I don’t know whether Barack Obama was born in the United States of America. I don’t know that. But I do know this, that in his heart, he’s not an American. He’s just not an American.” Coffman has since issued a non-apology apology, saying that while he misspoke in questioning Obama’s birth certificate, he stands by his “not an American” declaration because Obama doesn’t “share my belief in American Exceptionalism — his policies reflect a philosophy that America is but one nation among many equals.” Read more: http://www.salon.com/2012/05/17/colorado_congressman_obamas_not_an_american/?utm_medium=twitter
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| MindMover | May 2012 | OP | |
| zbdent | May 2012 | #1 | |
| provis99 | May 2012 | #2 | |
| qb | May 2012 | #3 | |
| HisTomness | May 2012 | #4 | |
| cindyperry2010 | May 2012 | #5 | |
| MindMover | May 2012 | #6 | |
| xtraxritical | May 2012 | #15 | |
| gateley | May 2012 | #7 | |
| BadgerKid | May 2012 | #8 | |
| felix_numinous | May 2012 | #9 | |
| duhneece | May 2012 | #10 | |
| 4saken | May 2012 | #11 | |
| starroute | May 2012 | #12 | |
| Scuba | May 2012 | #13 | |
| sellitman | May 2012 | #14 | |
| askeptic | May 2012 | #16 | |
| Beartracks | May 2012 | #17 | |
| Ruby the Liberal | May 2012 | #18 |
Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 03:45 PM
zbdent (34,522 posts)
1. So how is being a Capitalist "patriotic"? Or even "Christian"?
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When your God and your allegiance is to the almighty dollar, what happens when that dollar is tied to bowing to another, foreign country? Or to a country/religion which contradicts your own?
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 03:48 PM
provis99 (13,062 posts)
2. not an American because he doesn't share Coffman's beliefs...
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well then Coffman, 99% of Americans aren't really Americans, are they?
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 03:50 PM
qb (5,924 posts)
3. This reminds me of when George Herbert Walker Bush said atheists shouldn't be considered Americans
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How hateful does one have to be to be considered American?
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 03:56 PM
HisTomness (99 posts)
4. Ah, the old "No True Scotsman" fallacy is back again...
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...under its familiar "Real American" guise.
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 03:57 PM
cindyperry2010 (792 posts)
5. And this guy is a moronic dickhead racist pig
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Response to cindyperry2010 (Reply #5)
Thu May 17, 2012, 03:58 PM
MindMover (2,798 posts)
6. well you could tell us how you really feel...
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Response to MindMover (Reply #6)
Thu May 17, 2012, 05:39 PM
xtraxritical (2,957 posts)
15. How about fuck these mother fuckers
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and if you get a chance to fart on their elevators do it. And if you want to hide me fuck you.
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 04:04 PM
gateley (61,882 posts)
7. I hate these people. Hate them.
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And against all I believe, I'd gleefully confine them to a Prison State and let them hate among themselves.
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 04:11 PM
BadgerKid (3,728 posts)
8. My wish if Coffman posted that on DU...
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 04:30 PM
felix_numinous (3,236 posts)
9. Equality..a bad thing
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thanks for spelling that out Mr. Coffman, we've got your number.
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 04:37 PM
duhneece (1,697 posts)
10. "...his (Obama's) policies reflect a philosophy that America is but one nation among many equals.”
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The juvenile "my dad can beat up your dad" Coffman reveals how immature he is.
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 04:43 PM
4saken (152 posts)
11. Such an obvious No true Scotsman fallacy. n/t
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 05:07 PM
starroute (10,387 posts)
12. When did believing in American exceptionalism go from being an insult to being a GOP litmus text?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism
The specific term "American exceptionalism" was first used in 1929 by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin chastising members of the Lovestone-led faction of the American Communist Party for the heretical belief that America was independent of the Marxist laws of history "thanks to its natural resources, industrial capacity, and absence of rigid class distinctions." |
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 05:07 PM
Scuba (26,704 posts)
13. Guess what Mike. You don't get to define "American".
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 05:14 PM
sellitman (9,305 posts)
14. They all think this in private
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At least this guy has the balls to say so in public.
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 07:24 PM
askeptic (179 posts)
16. It's just a different "fundamentalism" - rational discourse impossible
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...Please don't confuse a fundamentalist with facts - his mind is made up and trying to be rational just makes 'em worse.
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 07:56 PM
Beartracks (3,159 posts)
17. Curious if Coffman thinks that whites are but one race among many equals.
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I know it's not germane, really, but... Just askin'.
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Response to MindMover (Original post)
Thu May 17, 2012, 08:13 PM
Ruby the Liberal (23,501 posts)
18. Locking - analysis/feature piece
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