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Omaha Steve

(99,587 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:03 PM Sep 2015

Sheriff apologizes to lawyers asked to remove bras at jail

Source: AP

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — A sheriff apologized Thursday to a pair of female lawyers who were told they needed to take off their underwire bras at jail to avoid setting off the metal detector if they wanted to talk to their incarcerated clients.

Cumberland County Sheriff Kevin Joyce said he accepts "complete responsibility" for the actions of deputies who spoke with the women. The women refused to comply with the request and left.

Joyce said he didn't give deputies proper guidance on how to handle such a situation. In the future, deputies will resolve similar situations using a metal detecting wand, he said.

"I've already offered my personal apologies," Joyce said. "It was never my intention, nor that of the officers involved, to embarrass anyone."

FULL story at link.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3bd24d575a2840ffbc39928aefe126d7/sheriff-apologizes-lawyers-asked-remove-bras-jail



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Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
1. Cops are too often such fucking pricks. Incompetent would be high praise for these pukes.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:07 PM
Sep 2015

I'm so sick of reading about idiot responses by idiot officers.

lark

(23,093 posts)
2. What is wrong with American cops?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:21 PM
Sep 2015

Why are so many racists and misogynists? Did they become cops just so they could get away with harassing and harming women and minorities? How the hell are they passing the psychological tests?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
4. It's recruitment....
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:15 PM
Sep 2015

Back when there were shows like "Adam 12" and "CHiPs" and even "Barney Miller" we had people joining the force who had some brains who wanted to help their community. Even the show "Emergency!" depicted cops as public servants there to help. They were the good guys and therefore you had to be GOOD to join.

Then the show "COPS" came out which showed police chasing people and slamming them to the ground. Suddenly we got guys who were on the high school football or wrestling team signing up. Over time those guys moved up the ranks to decision making positions and they got to decide who gets hired and, surprise, surprise, they like people just like themselves. Low intellect brutes who like to rough people up. Someone with brains and a sense of decency might not get the job because the guy making the decision considers those qualities to be a sign of weakness.

All of this has led to where we are today. Now when you call the cops the odds are the good guys wont be coming. Instead, you will end up with guys who will add violence to the situation. Sometimes, deadly violence. Look at how many times families have called the police to settle down their mentally handicapped family member and to their horror the cops shoot them dead and get away with it.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
9. All you have to do is ask people on DU about the cops they know
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:01 PM
Sep 2015

They will tell you about they must be good cops because they are so nice to them.

It's time to start having "the talk" with police officers, so POC can stop having "the talk" with their innocent children.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
3. Resign---------------for starters ................
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:55 PM
Sep 2015

just like the Lewiston Mayor he should resign also, what is in the water up there, stupidity, or hate, fear, and the blame game and now misogyny----------------you and him are really a embarrassment to enforce the rule of law and be a part of the law enforcement community-------------think about that for one minute-----------you don't think.


Joyce said he didn't give deputies proper guidance on how to handle such a situation. In the future, deputies will resolve similar situations using a metal detecting wand, he said.




 

packman

(16,296 posts)
5. Resign? Rather harsh for a stupid mistake
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:18 PM
Sep 2015

A correction in procedure and done with it. Jesus, if you were a judge I'd hate to have to stand in front of you for anything.

Jaywalking - off to jail
Spitting on sidewalk - 90 days
Baggy pants - bread and water
Dancing in public - Shackles and 10 lashes
Lights on after dark----

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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
6. Reflection .................
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

I got a ticket for spitting on a side walk in California (1967)--------------cost me 15.00 dollars.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
11. I remember a friend telling me "In New York if you spit on the
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:18 PM
Sep 2015

sidewalk it can cost ya $50, but if you throw up, it's free."

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
10. He's a law enforcement official who promptly admitted the error and took responsibility
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:31 PM
Sep 2015

He also apologized to the women involved and promised that the situation wouldn't recur.

Everybody makes mistakes. People differ in how they handle them. I think this guy has earned another chance. If he resigned, it wouldn't be surprising if his replacement were worse, more in the mold of some of the law enforcement types we've seen in action around the country.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
12. I agree.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:28 PM
Sep 2015

Jf you've ever managed people, you know who's just screwed up and needs a second chance, who you shouldn't shield more than once, who needs 'out the door.'
I suspect, not knowing the chief, he took a chance on employees who may turn out to be useful parts of the team.

I think that because he included his reputation on it. I imagime he's had a talk with them about what will happen if they embarrass him a second time. (If he didn't, I take all of this back.) That's good administration in my opinion.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
8. When went in to prisons in the 90's, we knew we couldn't get in with an underwire; everybody knew.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:37 PM
Sep 2015

I represented the State in those proceedings but no underwire for any attorney. They would offer scissors and a restroom if you wanted to cut it out.

No high heels, either.

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