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Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:23 AM

Chavez sees US hand in Russia protests

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez has blamed the US for being behind the recent wave of protests in Russia against the outcome of the Dec 4 parliamentary elections.

Chavez Wednesday said the US was attempting to destabilize Russia, and repeat the scenario in Egypt, Libya, Syria and the nations of South America.

'There goes the madness of the empire,' Chavez said on Venezuela de Television.

Political rallies have been held all across Russia since the disputed Duma elections, the largest of which, in Moscow, drew tens of thousands of protesters in an unprecedented display of opposition.

More at: http://in.news.yahoo.com/chavez-sees-us-hand-russia-protests-102856512.html

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Reply Chavez sees US hand in Russia protests (Original post)
Zorro Dec 2011 OP
JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2011 #1
MADem Dec 2011 #14
onehandle Dec 2011 #2
vminfla Dec 2011 #3
dipsydoodle Dec 2011 #4
Adsos Letter Dec 2011 #5
Posteritatis Dec 2011 #18
joshcryer Dec 2011 #28
Bacchus4.0 Dec 2011 #38
joshcryer Dec 2011 #24
treestar Dec 2011 #6
Freddie Stubbs Dec 2011 #8
treestar Dec 2011 #9
DissedByBush Dec 2011 #16
bemildred Dec 2011 #7
CJvR Dec 2011 #10
Odin2005 Dec 2011 #13
joshcryer Dec 2011 #25
Odin2005 Dec 2011 #31
PragmaticLiberal Dec 2011 #15
tabatha Dec 2011 #11
Odin2005 Dec 2011 #12
Posteritatis Dec 2011 #17
totodeinhere Dec 2011 #19
EX500rider Dec 2011 #20
Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #21
joshcryer Dec 2011 #27
Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #22
bemildred Dec 2011 #23
joshcryer Dec 2011 #26
bemildred Dec 2011 #29
joshcryer Dec 2011 #30
bemildred Dec 2011 #34
Fool Count Dec 2011 #35
joshcryer Dec 2011 #36
bemildred Dec 2011 #37
pam4water Dec 2011 #32
Dreamer Tatum Dec 2011 #33

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:28 AM

1. We did this AND caused cancers in South American leaders?

Damn, we're GOOD!

But how did Hugo discover this?

Damn, HE's GOOD!

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:08 PM

14. You beat me to it!

You said it best, though!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:28 AM

2. A little close for comfort for the minor Mussolini. nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:41 AM

3. paranoid

 

Was it the mind control rays pointed at Moscow?

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:48 AM

4. Prensa Latina posted that 18 hours ago

a simple search would confirm.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 10:59 AM

5. Nice way to diss the Russian people, Hugo.

What, Russians aren't capable of being outraged without the US?

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:33 PM

18. It bothers me how widespread the attitude is, too

Any protests anywhere these days get spun by people as the actions of American spies or some other silliness, no matter what else is going on, how long people have been pissed off, or what governments have done to deserve their ire. It's like so many people don't believe that mere foreigners have thoughts or plans or wishes of their own, but everything has to exist relative to the wishes of Washington for good or ill - as though nineteen out of twenty people on the planet aren't really autonomous individuals.

It's a massive, long-running, consistent denial of agency to the large majority of the planet's population, and the assumptions underlying it are a mix of offensive and disturbing.

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Response to Posteritatis (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 06:19 PM

28. What bothers me more is that the US is getting credit for it!

I mean, think about it, everyone saying all of these mass protests are US-spurred, are crediting the US for democratic actions around the globe! It's obscene! These people are self-determined! They're acting on their own! Maybe US technology helped it (internet, social media, and the like), but for the US to be the sole instigator?

RIDICULOUS!.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 12:22 PM

38. yes, correct. the US gov is NOT responsible for these worldwide popular movements

of course Chavez believes these movements are a bad thing.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 06:12 PM

24. No, you don't understand, Trotskyites don't believe protest is legitimate.

Unless that protest is against capitalism. Full stop.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:16 AM

6. He's starting to lose his mind

Good grief. What next?

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Response to treestar (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:33 AM

8. Starting?

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:41 AM

9. :)

Yeah, there's that.

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Response to treestar (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:21 PM

16. It's the CIA's fault

 

We implanted a receiver in his tooth that gets activated by super-secret stealth satellites to make him say crazy things in order to discredit his revolution.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:29 AM

7. Dang, he's making fun of us again! nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:49 AM

10. Hehe!

 

Chavez sees the US's hand in every shadow, and perhaps one day he will be right.

Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!

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Response to CJvR (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:06 PM

13. I think the US-backed 2003 coup attempt made him neurotically paranoid.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 06:13 PM

25. Nah, it's a common theme among "anti-imperialists." They need something for their...

...5 minutes hate, and imperialists are that thing that they chose.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #25)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 08:27 PM

31. Chavez seemed quite reasonable until the coup attempt.

After it he turned nutty. In that way the coup attempt still "worked" because now he embarrasses himself and makes other radical leftists in Latin America look bad by association.

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Response to CJvR (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:21 PM

15. Heck, a good portion of DU sees the US's hand in every shadow as well.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 11:59 AM

11. Gosh, he must have read McCain's tweet and believed it.

People in Russia, Egypt, Libya, Syria cannot think for themselves, and are wanting to replace one dictator with another (the US dictating that they should rise up).

I think Chavez has chem-brain.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:03 PM

12. I think he needs some antipsychotic meds.

First thinking that the US is giving Latin American leaders cancer, now this. Have you lost your mind, Hugo???

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:30 PM

17. ¿Por qué no te callas, Hugo? (nt)

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:28 PM

19. Waiting for the Chavez apologists to show up in this thread. n/t

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #19)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:38 PM

20. They seem to be late....I'll fill in for them till they show up...

It's a mis-translation!

It's in the MSM, must be a lie!

We over threw Iran in 1953 so we must be doing this!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 02:47 PM

21. Hasn't social media been leveraged by the Pentagon and the like?

 

I recall various articles about the military getting on board on means to "weaponize" these tools. The real problem is, given Hugo's penchant for telling the truth, our own ability to tolerate cognitive dissonance. This tolerance is encouraged by the orgy of Hugo Derangement Syndrome seen in this thread.

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Response to Boston_Chemist (Reply #21)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 06:17 PM

27. Massive difference between this:



And this:



Social media can be a conduit.

But it not a replacement for activism.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 03:40 PM

22. Wouldn't surprise me one damned bit. Another American-financed regime change. Same bullshit/

different year.

I'm so F tired of American regime change around the globe.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 03:59 PM

23. I don't know what's funnier, Chavez playing the clown and ridiculing the USA,

or all the people buying it.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #23)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 06:14 PM

26. All the people buying it. Chavez has always said crap like this.

This is truly nothing new for him.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #26)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 07:59 PM

29. Yes, he clearly gets a kick out of it. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #29)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 08:07 PM

30. And you can tell he's not serious. It's even more amusing to read Venezuelan's...

...taking him seriously over this kind of stuff.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #30)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 08:44 PM

34. Yeah, them too. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 01:11 AM

35. You know what's funnier? Thinking that US follows strict policy of non-interference

 

in other countries' internal affairs, that's what.

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Response to Fool Count (Reply #35)

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 01:21 AM

36. Who thinks that? USAID does what the CIA did, only openly.

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Response to Fool Count (Reply #35)

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 09:43 AM

37. That's just stupid and contrary to simple observation nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 08:28 PM

32. We had a hand in it, when we created the Friedman "free market" design for the Russia economy in the

late 1990s. A big part of Russia is worse off under laissez faire than it was under the communist. Might not be what Chavez meant but something to keep in mind!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 08:36 PM

33. "Yo culpo a los Estados Unidos para el intestinos flojos" nt

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