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Sun May 13, 2012, 01:21 PM

Merkel's Party Routed In Big German State

Source: REUTERS

By Stephen Brown

DUESSELDORF, Germany | Sun May 13, 2012 12:49pm EDT

(Reuters) - Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives suffered a crushing defeat on Sunday in an election in Germany's most populous state, a result which could embolden the left opposition to step up its criticism of her European austerity policies.

The election in North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW), a western German state with a bigger population than the Netherlands and an economy the size of Turkey, was held 18 months before a national election in which Merkel is expected to fight for a third term.

She remains popular in Germany for her steady handling of the euro zone debt crisis, but the sheer scale of her party's defeat leaves her vulnerable at a time when a backlash against her insistence on fiscal discipline is building across Europe.

According to first projections, the centre-left Social Democrats (SPD) won 38.8 percent of the vote and will have enough to form a stable majority with the Greens, who scored 12.2 percent.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/13/us-germany-election-nrw-result-idUSBRE84C09G20120513

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Reply Merkel's Party Routed In Big German State (Original post)
Purveyor May 2012 OP
pinto May 2012 #1
xchrom May 2012 #2
starroute May 2012 #3
MannyGoldstein May 2012 #4
jannyk May 2012 #5
Jackpine Radical May 2012 #8
polichick May 2012 #14
rocktivity May 2012 #6
pscot May 2012 #7
tabasco May 2012 #9
DFW May 2012 #10
tama May 2012 #11
tabasco May 2012 #12
DFW May 2012 #15
unkachuck May 2012 #13

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 01:29 PM

1. (aside) Fareed Zakaria's show on CNN today was heavily focused on the EU & austerity policies.

A good, in depth overview.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 01:41 PM

2. HA! Nt

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 01:45 PM

3. And the Pirate Party got 7.6% of the vote -- which has been typical lately

In the last few German regional elections, they've gotten either close to or just over 8% -- enough to gain representation in the state parliaments.

Good for them.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 01:57 PM

4. Unfortunately, in the US both parties are pro-austerity

Not much to do except vote for the less-savage one.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #4)

Sun May 13, 2012, 02:06 PM

5. +1.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #4)

Sun May 13, 2012, 03:07 PM

8. Ainnat da troof.

Obama is dawun onda rite.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #4)

Sun May 13, 2012, 11:09 PM

14. One party, two faces.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 02:20 PM

6. Another country heard from

voting "No sale" on the "new austerity"-based economy. Why IS it that it's not catching on?


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #6)

Sun May 13, 2012, 02:38 PM

7. Haven't you heard?

The bankers own this place.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 03:34 PM

9. CDU is doing their best to dimantle workers' rights in Germany

I'll be glad to see Germans kick their asses out of power.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 05:23 PM

10. This was a local election where the personalities got what they deserved--not a national indication

The moderate, charismatic sitting SPD governor, Hannelore Kraft got her party 39%
where the colorless, ineffective CDU challenger got what he deserved, a whopping loss.
This was fought by personalities, with ideology running second. That the Piratenpartei
got 7.8% (latest ARD figures, could yet change) shows that a large segment of the
population is fed up with the whole process.

My wife voted SPD, hates the Piraten because they don't stand for much of anything.
I kinda admire them, because they don't stand for much of anything and still got into
parliament. Now, of course, they'll have to take a stand on something, but the established
parties, to which I now have to include the Greens, got the message: a potential coalition
maker or breaker won by basically saying "to hell with all of you." As an American citizen,
I still vote in the USA, of course, so my sentiments don't matter--probably just as well!!

Here in Germany, Neonazis get only fractions of the vote. Back home, the Neonazis (spelled G.O.P.)
get upwards of 40%. No American Pirates get my vote as long as a danger like that lurks.
Democratic all the way for me.

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Response to DFW (Reply #10)

Sun May 13, 2012, 06:21 PM

11. Pirate party

 

They stand for freedom of information and participatory democracy, and as for representative system, they or at least many of them practice "continuous and participatory representation", asking those who they represent on how to vote on issues as they come for decision instead of pretending to be besserwissers.

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Response to DFW (Reply #10)

Sun May 13, 2012, 07:03 PM

12. That's like saying state elections in New York or California

are not an indicator of national trends in the U.S.

NRW has a population of 17+ million.

I'm hoping the CDU continues to get their asses handed to them.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #12)

Sun May 13, 2012, 11:38 PM

15. Are you kidding me?

I've lived in NRW for 30 years, speak fluent German and am married to an SPD member. How long have you been here?

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2012, 10:10 PM

13. K&R....angela, the tarantula, keep up the good work!....n/t

 

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